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Why are some people "bad at drugs"?

well...it's a very long come up, literally nothing for 1-2 hours at least. I have been very pussy with my dosing due to the fact I am leaving the country tomorrow and have had mad missions today getting my xmas take home script (80 pills!) and xmas shopping (finally) and the fact that I am probably one of the first 100 people taking this drug on the planet:D
I will elaborate further when on xmas day I shall be taking a 12-16mg hit (the apparent real fun zone!). Today I had 8mg but in 2x4mg with a good 6 hours apart each time. First dose 12 hours ago, currently ready for bed after an afternoon when my chronic flu symptoms totally vanished! Decent benzos can do that! And the the whole day has been utterly stress free despite having to deal with untold battiness, baitness and bullshit!

The signs seem good...looking forward to a big fat wak of this stuff and see wa gwan%)
 
Agree 100%
This aint NO Jack Kerouac crap were talking here, this is England where it rains, cold, dark etc.
I think people have the wrong idea about this subject & it makes me mad as hell, I am 99.9% sure badandwicked has NEVER had the life dealings we have had.
1 night on the street you soon learn it is NO joke & your very sad about what you got into, I am sure only people that have been without a home really know how long a night can be & how cold it is too (well people kicking Gear know about the long ass night times too)

Being homeless anywhere is bad enough, I was homeless for a couple of nights in Sydney (t-shirt and short weather obviously) because my damned boss hadn't wired my wages. It was fucking awful. Luckily vagrancy isn't a crime in Sydney, so I wasn't about to be moved on by police for sleeping in certain places, and the temperature made it a lot easier to sleep outside. But the boredom, the hunger, and the anxiety was unbearable at times...

So being homeless over here must be unimaginably terrible. Especially for winter. *shudders*
 
Since I started this thread I'll add some context about why I asked.

Compared to a lot of the posts in here, I suffer very mild consequences from my drug use.

I prefer short acting drugs that don't make me feel bad at work, or at least don't affect me too much. Like mxe, and GBL. I've used one or the other of these drugs nearly every evening for the past few years, with some months of sobriety. Before that I was a "problem drinker" -- short of an alcoholic but past recreational.

I bought a house and have worked at a demanding job through all of this, and consider my use as a way of relaxing in the evenings. The problem with this is that it's enough for me: I have no interest in dating, making new friends is a hassle, and hobbies are... well, found in a baggie or a bottle.

Of the drugs I use, I find alcohol by far the most disruptive and depressing. Alcohol *did* disrupt my life when I was getting drunk every other day - I saw a psychiatrist (who gave me some great guidance) and a psychologist (who was useless) about 4 years ago, and stopped regularely drinking at that time. I was really pleased with myself, and stayed sober for nearly a year. Then I "discovered" mephedrone - which at the time I viewed as an unrelated problem.

Meph and booze caused me problems with work, family, friends, and general coping (like the house was always a tip, I didn't eat properly, I never had clean clothes) -- but mxe and gbl did not cause these issues.

Just over a month ago I poured away my GBL, threw away my mxe, and vowed to "start living".... meaning dating, hobbies, and friends.

It'll probably come as no surprise that I went straight back to drinking. First to dull the GBL cravings, then just to get drunk. I HATE drinking - it makes me really pissed off and angry with myself, not to mention hungover all day at work and asleep all weekend.

That said - I did do better with seeing friends, went on a few dates with a few guys, and renewed my interest in some hobbies. But when I wasn't doing that - straight for the vodka.

My promise to myself was that I'd stay sober for 3 months (weekends and parties excluded) and if after that I still wanted to do drugs, I was allowed.

I've completely failed. After I started drinking again, I figured that might not be a bad thing since a drinking problem is something I know how to beat, from my previous experiences. Fail. I think I was just more determined last time.

A week ago I got drunk and got hold of more mxe. It's kept me off the booze this week and I've felt so much better for it. GBL is better though -- I'm more capable of getting stuff done. I'll likely get some of that again, after Christmas.

Then after a few months or weeks, I'll start feeling depressed about my drug use, throw it away and start it all over again.

Part of me wishes I'd never had fun drinking at uni, never had that first amazing pill, never had my meph summer of love.
Part of me thinks I'm judging myself by other people's standards - and that friends, hobbies and relationships are overrated.
And reading these posts - I really wonder if I have anything to whine about at all!
 
Stop throwing good drugs away. There are charities for these things. My address for starters.

Why do you throw good drugs away? It just sounds like the propaganda gets you (it affects all of us) and you think you have to feel bad about it. You don't. It doesn't seem to be disrupting the functioning of your life.

Can't really comment anymore because there is too much other detail I don't know about you. But you sound pretty normal to me.
 
yeah is it stopping you from doing things you WANT to be doing, or things you THINK YOU SHOULD be doing?

You seem to be doing very well for a drug user in their 20's, really.
 
Definitely things I think I "should do". But things I think I "should want" and probably would if I didn't have something that fulfils me more than any personal relationship ever has. I also don't enjoy having to lie to my friends and family.

And on the topic of throwing good drugs away....I hope you'd be supportive if this was a successful sobreity story. As it is I'm FUCKING KICKING MYSELF. I had only a tiny bit of mxe but a good 300ml of gbl. If anyone wants to kick their g habit i'm now collecting for charity....
 
We all have to lie. I haven't had a Christmas dinner on the 25th of December for about 15 years. My g/f and I have a tradition of taking ecstasy instead (or meph latterly). Come Boxing Day or the 27th every single year we have to lie to various members of our families about whether we've had turkey or beef or duck. And we always fuck it up with two different meats.
 
I have found telling my (very conservative) parents the truth is a real winner.

They don't like to hear it, so they stop asking. They don't even start Daily Mail type discussions on drugs any more since last time they did that I got some pills out and told my Dad to try a couple. Was pissed up.

They know what I've been doing on a New Years Eve, but they don't bother asking now.
 
Haha. That's the joke. All our families are liberals (communists) - mine, or anarchists, hers. And yet, when it comes to drugs, we still have to fucking lie!
 
Haha!! That sounds like a beautiful tradition for the former, and a dirty awesome tradition for the latter.

So your answer to my original question would be "you're not bad at drugs"?

I actually (honestly) didn't make this thread or my last post looking for justification -- I've already decided to get back on my faves. I think I am either bad at drugs or bad at life. Perhaps I use drugs as an excuse for being bad at life. I'm pretty good at self justification but I really can't quite convince myself that it's all good. Like I said, my plan was a few months of sobriety and social activity -- and after that free rein to do whatever I wanted. I think it's _not ok_ that I couldn't manage that.
 
yeah to be honest i was never honest about a lengthy coke habit, but i was never even honest with myself about that one.
 
Yes, you are not bad at drugs Angel. Despite your association with Mugz. Wink. My guess is you are not bad at life either. You have just fallen foul to a mythical consensus about what being 'good' at life means.

In. My. Opinion.
 
a mythical consensus about what being 'good' at life means.

Now that's talkin' my language.

Either that or I'm attempting to justify my relative hopelessness at life with self-serving, juvenile, nonconformist rubbish.

All depends how indoctrinated you are. Delete as applicable.
 
Thanks SHM and MM for the nice words.

I've not convinced myself yet -- and I'm not sure I ever will do, but for now I guess I'll try to make peace with myself. "Not lying" consisted of being ok with saying "I got drunk last night and loafed around" rather than "I took some mxe/gbl last night and loafed around". Difference? Meh. Nothing to do with me or my opinion of myself, just other people and fear that the few friends I have wouldn't be my friends anymore if they knew how I chill in the evenings.

I do feel though that I judge myself by my own standards for being happiest when I'm high. I tell myself that there are many years left for me to sort myself out, but I don't think drug abuse is something that gets better over time!
 
One of the hardest times in my life emotionally was my mid 20's , and it was partly this coming to terms with what I actually wanted from life, and losing so much baggage and GUILT when i realised I didn't have to be doing the things I thought I should be doing.

Look where it got me, homeowner, job, pension, married, kid......Viva la revolucion! %)
 
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