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which of these two different highs best describe your cocaine buzz?
- Thread starter Le Junk
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I am pretty sure I get A type shite, but no matter what it gives me a B type feeling w/ nausea the last few times I have done it. Everyone else seems to get nice and high but I just feel sick. Back in the day I would get the A type buzz. I don't care what type you are getting the jonseing and inablity to sleep are almost always present. I think I am done with coke for a long time.
coke gives the same side effects as it's also an SNS stimulant. and cutting the coke with amphetamines would not result only in the effects of the second category.BigBenn said:
those categories are bullshit.
there's no, type A, type B cocaine. there are all kinds of different cuts out there creating a range of different potency "cocaine," with various ranges of side-effects. amphetamines produce just as much of the characteristics listed under "type A" as cocaine does. and the absence of amphetamines in the cut doesn't take away the side effects listed under "type B," which are all common side-effects of cocaine as well.
fastandbulbous
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Tad R Fitzsimmions
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wichita has ok blow usaully. i'd say i get more A then i do B. 7 out of ten times it's A.
Le Junk
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thursday said:
You are very incorrect, sir. Cocaine mixed with ephedrine or speed will result in a very altered buzz. The effects of speed last much longer and are easily more prone to overdosing with negative reactions.
Cocaine type A and type B does exist. Only an inexperienced user would think differently.
Cocaine is now showing up in the U.S. (recent DEA microgram bulletins) with such cuts as ephedrine, psuedo-ephedrine and amphetamines.
If you think that coke that has been cut with any of those stimulants will not alter the "true' effect of the cocaine, then you are sadly mistaken.
It's a profit issue, nothing more.
If you take 85% cocaine hcl and cut it 60% with mannitol (inactive cut), the next step would be to try and bring back some of the BAM! Mexicans can obtain speed very cheaply and would not hesitate to throw it in to bring some kick back.
Think about it. My guess is that you've been doing cocaine for less than 10 years. Am I correct?
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Le Junk
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SPUNK said:
I took the effects straight from a publication. Though, yes, I would tend to disagree with the feinding part.
Though I've never only taken two lines and called it a day either. So I really can't say without certainty that the statement isn't true.
Now, when I was getting type A on a regualar basis, I would tend to party for a two to three day period straight, so that would be in direct contradiction of th statement.
I think it only applies to two lines and then quiting.
Le Junk
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PIC said:Le Junk, I am looking forward to the day you will turn cocaine hcl back into coca plant
Interesting idea. Hum?
AznRaver
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thursday said:
Only if it's made by a pharmaceutical for anaesthetic purposes can you get 100% pure cocaine hcl. you cannot extract 100% potentcy from a plant whether it's coca plant, ephedra, yohimbe, green tea, etc. So the highest coca extract has been estimated to be 60-80% pure coke as from columbia before it's cut to shit in the US.
Le Junk
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AznRaver said:
^^^Just what he said......
there are different grades of cocaine as far as potency and what sort of chemicals are used for cuts, but most coke out there definitely doesn't fall into either of those categories.Le Junk said:
the first category you gave is basically the ideal coke experience users are looking for, neglecting all the inevitable negative-side effects that come with doing coke.
in the second category you've listed all of those negative-side-effects excluded from the first category. most of these characteristics in the second category are associated with the subjective crash which all coke users will inevitably experience even when using pure cocaine hcl.
call me inexperienced if you will, but i've done my fair share of coke from various difference sources and i'm friends with many people who deal coke or have dealt coke. what you're saying simply goes against reason and shows a lack of understanding of the chemistry and pharmacology regarding cocaine.
when did i ever say that psychoactive chemicals magically become inert when used to cut coke? i simply stated that in order to further the recreational potential of coke beyond its innate psychoactive properties you have to cut it with other psychoactive drugs, and either way you can't change the pharmacological characteristics of cocaine hcl itself. you can't get rid of the crash, you can't make it any more euphoric than it is capable of being.
uncut coke is still going to be an SNS stimulant and cause the side-effects related to SNS stimulants. no matter how pure your coke is, it's still going to present the same negative effects as less potent coke. yea, cutting it with shittier drugs which cause more peripheral CNS stimulation will create more side-effects, but even without these adulturants you're still going to experience hypertensions or tachycardia, and all of the other side-effects of having your sympathetic nervous system over-stimulated for long-periods of time.
yea, you're correct. i've only done coke for about 3 years. and actually have only done it once this year since i usually turn it down even when it's offered to me for free because even as a stimulant it's not all that spectacular. i long grew out of my coke phase when i realized that it was just a huge waste of money compared to most other drugs i have at my disposal. but i don't see what this has to do with anything as my argument is based on legitimate knowledge of the pharmacology behind cocaine and most SNS stimulants rather stubbornly sticking to popular misconceptions because i've abused a particular drug for a longer period of time than other people.
the fact that most coke in the U.S. is cut has nothing to do with the fact that pure cocaine hcl does not fall into two different categories. there aren't different isomers of the coke molecule with different effects.
oh, and it is possibly to purify your blow by removing the cut. and doing so still won't get rid of the negative side-effects associated with using cocaine. the only thing that will minimize the downside is not doing too much of it and taking care of your body while you're doing it. in any case, it's still not that great of a drug. faster routes of administration such as free-basing, smoking crack, or injecting it do offer a comparable high to meth, but still too short-lived and hardly worth the money. and once again, the crash has more to do with the manner in which you do the drug and the state of your health than with what category your coke falls under, assuming you're not buying extremely shitty coke in the first place.
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twominds
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B for sure. Although I am experienced with cocaine I've never bee addicted to it or am I a user of it like other substances.
BrianChrLsL
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Experience a mixture of A and B effects...
The stuff around here (New York area) has aspects of both A and B...it made me talkative, euphoric, feeling really really really good., almost all of A's listed effects took place..but about 20 -30 minutes after the last line, my heart raced and all I wanted to do is take more to relieve the anxiety, and music /conversation/ego-boost, which was awesome just a few minutes prior to the last line, quickly became EXTREMELY irritating/non-existent...Almost all of B's effects take over. I've experienced this combination of really good and really bad in the same night with as little as 1/2 g (and also from multiple sources to test out to quality of the area) . Never had A or B as separate exclusive experiences. Always good and bad parts in the same night...does anyone have this type of experience?
The stuff around here (New York area) has aspects of both A and B...it made me talkative, euphoric, feeling really really really good., almost all of A's listed effects took place..but about 20 -30 minutes after the last line, my heart raced and all I wanted to do is take more to relieve the anxiety, and music /conversation/ego-boost, which was awesome just a few minutes prior to the last line, quickly became EXTREMELY irritating/non-existent...Almost all of B's effects take over. I've experienced this combination of really good and really bad in the same night with as little as 1/2 g (and also from multiple sources to test out to quality of the area) . Never had A or B as separate exclusive experiences. Always good and bad parts in the same night...does anyone have this type of experience?
^that's typically what most people experience from cocaine, although each person's mileage varies depending on their physiology. you can't take an SNS stimulant and not experience hypotension, physiological arousal(stress, anxiety, "ampy, "edgy"), and the inevitable come-down--that's why i usually take an opiate with my stimulants. but the myth of pure cocaine not having a come-down, not causing undesirable peripheral CNS stimulation, and being more euphoric than regular coke, etc. is just a product of urban legend.
with less potent coke, people just tend to consume much more of it at a time to compensate for the lack in potency. the only way to get any sort of decent physical euphoria from it(compared to meth, heroin, etc.) is admister it in a different way though either freebasing it, or iv it.
with less potent coke, people just tend to consume much more of it at a time to compensate for the lack in potency. the only way to get any sort of decent physical euphoria from it(compared to meth, heroin, etc.) is admister it in a different way though either freebasing it, or iv it.
B
B........ once in a blue moon it may be a B+ but not usually......... It is especially bad for hubby as he gets very moody like he wants to go into a room and hide....... he wouldn't even come out of the motel room at the beach last weekend and wished he never done it. It effected me that way but with lots of alcohol, I was okay but he just ...... well you know!!
B........ once in a blue moon it may be a B+ but not usually......... It is especially bad for hubby as he gets very moody like he wants to go into a room and hide....... he wouldn't even come out of the motel room at the beach last weekend and wished he never done it. It effected me that way but with lots of alcohol, I was okay but he just ...... well you know!!
B9
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Both A and B but i live in england and should therefore be excluded from your poll.
sonicnature
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Melbourne, Australia.
A - every single time.
A - every single time.
junksick
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Um but ok, after years of use wouldn't you start damaging your dopamine neurons? This is what I was taught in all of my drug classes in college, and have read in articles about long term cocaine use. I can believe that if you have pure coke, it might take a really long time to feel these effects, but you aren't going to dodge the bullet--in fact I think it would make it creep up on you since your so cocky about the "magical" pure cocaine you have.