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Which now illegal research chemical would you want more of?

Methylone was fantastic

Regarding the FAs (as they were being discussed earlier), I have tried the following:

4-FA - Wonderful stuff, comparable to MDMA, very comfortable, very euphoric, lovely feeling. More stimulating than MDMA, the only downside really is that there is residual stimulation for too long after the really loving roll feeling leaves. But not a crash really, just can't sleep. Top-notch stuff, the best of the fluorinated amphetamines IMO.

4-FMA - This is like meth with more peripheral stimulation. I got some and binged on it for like 5 days, I did sleep but only because of etizolam. At first I thought it was great, then I grew to despise it. Way too moreish, and it gets pretty uncomfortable. Feels really bad for you. Also not empathogenic at all, totally unlike 4-FA, more like mania-inducing.

4-FEA - This is basically 100% serotonin in action, it's a strong releaser, but without any dopaminergic peroperties so it's not very euphoric. It produces a strong and rather pleasurable body high, but it also gives me massive headaches after a while. It also makes me very quiet and I have no desire to talk to people or move around. It has a bad crash and I feel like I got hit by a truck in the morning. I really don't like the stuff.

3-FEA - This is quite lovely, there is a warm, understated euphoria, it feels rolly but not very intoxicating, you can go about your day. Also there is no crash and it doesn't last too long or produce much peripheral stimulation. Probably my second favorite fluorinated amphetamine I've tried, not nearly as good as 4-FA, but it's quite nice.

2-FMA - This is a great functional stimulant. Basically at like 25mg, it feels like 5-10mg of Adderall, similar anyway. Energy, focus, and a nice mood boost that stops short of outright euphoria. It also does not seem to produce any of the typical side effects of amphetamines unless you push the dose. It has a ceiling effect, where adding more on top of ~25mg just adds to the negative effects and does not make the high better. Something about it is still reinforcing though so I found myself dosing more anyway and I recently tossed the rest of my stash because I was doing it way too much. But I have problems with self-control with stims and normally I don't let myself have any, I just do them if I'm out and a friend offers me some or something. Gonna go back to that. The thing that is annoying about 2-FMA is that it lasts a long time, it keeps me up at night even if I take it in the early afternoon. Too long of a duration.

2-FA - This is the lightest one of all, virtually no presence in the body whatsoever, it's just a mental stimulation. It's actually really an odd drug IMO. It was almost so light I didn't even notice it. I did it a couple of times, found it lacking, and that led me to, one day, dosing most of a gram over the course of the day/night, via eating, snorting and plugging. It seemed like I could have taken any amount and it wouldn't have been too much, or enough. Of course I was trying to get high with it. But I found 2-FMA a better functional stimulant, other than its duration which is too long. 2-FA has a short duration of like 3-4 hours. When I dosed that absurdly high amount, I didn't even feel stimulated, or particularly euphoric, but I did have a strange buzz of some sort.
 
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Wilson Wilson said:
I missed MXE so I'd love to give it a try with all the hype it gets.

I already still buy 4-MMC, great stuff, but I wish could have tried preban to see if there really is any difference.

Etizolam now seems to only be sold in dodgy fake Valium/Xanax presses and I miss the days of just being able to order Etizest and get it posted through my door the next day. Such a nice benzo analogue.

I'd also like to try all the new benzos that came out since the PSA in 2016 blanket banned all RC's. Flualprazolam, bromazolam, etc. Nowhere to be found over here!
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Apparently pre ban 4MMC was really 90% 4MMC and 10% 3MMC due to a precursor impurity.
It may be possible to recreate the original Meph.
 
Phobos said:
Apparently pre ban 4MMC was really 90% 4MMC and 10% 3MMC due to a precursor impurity.
It may be possible to recreate the original Meph.
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www.talkingdrugs.org

Where did all the real mephedrone go?

The original legal high mephedrone is reported to be different to the mephedrone that came after the ban, in both positive and negative effects. Could it have been a different drug altogether?
www.talkingdrugs.org

Great article about pre and post ban mephedrone. The batch I have right now is pretty good though, but I've never had 'pre ban' meph.
 
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3-MMC is really nice, one thing I love about it is that there is basically no comedown, it just wears off comfortably. It's quite calm yet very euphoric and chatty.
 
Are you referring to the Uk PSA (Psychoactive substances Act?) or something else.

Out of interest if possible, what would you most compare as mephedrone to please?
 
Methylone... I wanna go back to the days where I could buy a 100-gram bag for $800 and then turn it into thousands of dollars. And also roll as much as I wanted.
 
I sure do miss methylone. Absolutely lovely stuff, not as empathogenic as MDMA, but probably even more recreational, and so clean and light (unless you binged hard of course). And way less aftereffects than MDMA. It was the best of the cathinones IMO.
 
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Those fluoridated amphetamines sounded great, but for better or for worse I never tried a single one. The slim amount of info on safety, particularly re: brain damage meant I wasn't quite curious enough to dip my toe in.

Personally, there aren't many illegal ones that I miss. I feel like we're in a golden age. Still, I would have liked to have revisited 2C-C and 5-MeO-DMT, and I would have liked to have tried AMT and maybe 5-MeO-DiPT

Wilson Wilson said:
We'll never know at the end of the day, but I do think it is possible that rumour is true.
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Actually, in this case we do know. Before he died in 2017, Nick Sands admitted that the Orange Sunshine tabs were just your bog standard LSD, not in fact ALD-52 like he'd claimed in court. It was just a legal defense.

HoldBack said:
MXE was also incredible. However I never found it altogether that recreational. A couple mg under the tongue each day made me feel incredible with no side effects.
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Yeah, I feel the same way. A few sublingual milligrams is my preferred alternative to alcohol. Great for canoe trips - keeps the day light and floaty without the dehydration alcohol causes.
 
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Shortec Stublue!! said:
They used to filter the lysergic acid for blotters differently, so I’m told. Plus it hadn’t been messed with in the flower power Woodstock days ????
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How could it be messed with? The only possiblity is it gets watered down more.and how is filtering it differently going to change it?the only other possibilities it's any different is bcoz what's being sold as LSD is actually 25i,ald52,Dom,doc.lsd is the same as it always was.
 
Hmm, i found methylone as ordinary. It had an effect but i had no desire to repeat, i tried it multiple times and found it stimulated without the headspace, others really enjoyed from same batch.

Recently played with hexen or n ethyl hexedrone, great fun but dont redose chasing anything, its a one hit wonder so space
out the usage.

Mxe is fun and easy to learn. The supposed opiate effect or blanket effect really was this drug being easy to approach.

I miss apvp, just want to have a small amount such as 250mg. So fun but powerful too.
I also wish for more chems like ghb and gbl
 
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