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Which do you prefer: Hydrocodone or Oxycodone?

OCjunky said:
Dude i LOVE LOVE hydro, but there isnt anything to "agree" on , you gotta realize everyone has their own likings and that everyone likes different things. I dont believe it, but some people like codeine over oxy even...its just all in the persons attractions

But we CAN all agree on opiates as a whole are a great drug..

i dont mean to pick on you eaither

no biggie. yes, we can all agree on that. what i should have put in that post originally though (and im going to edit it now) is "im gonna have to argue" instead of "i cant fully agree" because he said no one can argue. im not really arguing, so no one think im bein a dick, im just tryin to carry on conversation.
 
IForgett said:
lol im gonna have to argue. However, methdone is fuckin sweet cuz of the long half life, and fentanyl floors me, but i still dont think they can compare to the naturalness and warmth of hydro, or even oxy for that matter. BUT 'done and fentanyl are still 2 wonderful chemicals.

i said don't argue!!!!!! jk man each is entitled to his own opinion
 
Oxycodone.

It's a more stimulating and functional buzz than hydro gives me (as we all know). Efficacy vs. side effect ratio is very nice (constipation is actually O.K. , never felt sick on it, etc.). Very nice too is the fact that you can snuffle it and it gives a great rush :) However, I think Oxy has a bad hangover which can only be cured by taking more and I think that it is much, much more addictive than hydrocodone IMO; a testament to the fact that I go through my OxyNorm prescription in less than two weeks whereas I've had 120 Vicoprofen sitting around here for a couple of months remaining relatively untouched...

To anyone whom has I.Ved Oxy: would you care to describe the rush to me?
I tried it for the first time last week and, admittedly, I only did a small amount (like 15mg, but with little tollerance - when I could have insnuffulated 5mg and stilll felt it), but the only thing I really felt was an immediate weakness/lightness in my legs and perhaps slight mood enhancement. Maybe I just messed up the shot... I don't know...


Hydrocodone for me seems to have more side-effects: I get never ending hiccups (which gets annoying after 3 days or longer on the stuff :\ ), it's more constipating and it upsets my stomach more (I may concede that this is because of the ibuprofen in the vicoprofen I have however...). Still, the sedation can be a nice change of pace from the Oxy and it definitely lasts longer (oh, how I wish Oxycodone lasted as long as hydrocodone does!). Both substances have their merits but I would choose Oxycodone nearly 90% of the time.

Anybody else find Hydrocodone has more side effects than Oxy?

~Leon
 
Kei said:
Anybody else find Hydrocodone has more side effects than Oxy?

No, in fact i get the exact opposite. On oxy i get a stomach ache, on hydro i feel fine.

I think you get less side effects on the drug your more accustomed to.
 
OCjunky said:
No, in fact i get the exact opposite. On oxy i get a stomach ache, on hydro i feel fine.

I think you get less side effects on the drug your more accustomed to.

losing the bad side effects is a part of becoming accustomed to a drug.
 
I greatly prefer oxycodone. Oxycodone is far more euphoric, requires a smaller dose and doesn't cause me to itch as bad. And overall, it gets me more high.
 
Kei said:

To anyone whom has I.Ved Oxy: would you care to describe the rush to me?
I tried it for the first time last week and, admittedly, I only did a small amount (like 15mg, but with little tollerance - when I could have insnuffulated 5mg and stilll felt it), but the only thing I really felt was an immediate weakness/lightness in my legs and perhaps slight mood enhancement. Maybe I just messed up the shot... I don't know...


IVing oxycodone is very similar to IVing heroin. Except oxycodone is more euphoric, you stand a better chance of being able to function on it being that it has a slightly stimulating effect and you're less likely to be nodding off, and the high only last about an hour at most. I actually prefer the oxycodone rush to the heroin rush. But I'd rather use heroin simply because it's more bang for the buck.

You probably just missed the vein if you didn't get anything off 15mgs when you can actually feel 5mgs.

However, if you can actually feel 5mgs, I think you're absolutely foolish for injecting it in the first place. Leave the needles alone as long as you can. It's not something you want to get into.
 
IForgett said:
i honestly bet the only reason most people pick oxy is because oxy is just as easy to obtain as hydro, but the amount of oxy you get for how much you spend is incredible, so its a lot easier to get higher.

Now imagine an 80mg hydro pill, same as an OxyContin, except its HydroContin. Then it would be more fair to make a judgement on which drug is better.

Also, im willing to bet most people here havent even tried high doses of hydro because of the fact its more expensive. I know there are people on here who have and have formed a valid opinion based on it, which is cool and i dont disrespect that, but i bet a few of these posters are pretty opiate naieve and dont know what they are talking about.

I've been using opiates for over 10 years.

Cost and availability aren't issues. It's not even that I prefer oxycodone. I just don't like hydrocodone. It's one of the few opiates I could do without along with codiene, demerol and Darvocet.
 
OCjunky said:
waste? not do anything?


take 80 mg, 8 norcos, and tell me it doesnt do anything, you will be nodding so hard youd probably fall asleep

Nodding off and wasting your high really isn't all that fun.
 
davesoviet said:
Nodding off and wasting your high really isn't all that fun.

I like to nod, and also, my high lasts for a good 2 hours before i nod off....so its not like BOOM im done, its not like im nodding off within the first hour
 
OCjunky said:
thats what i said....

i know. i was just agreeing with you without saying "i agree with you"

I've been using opiates for over 10 years.

Cost and availability aren't issues. It's not even that I prefer oxycodone. I just don't like hydrocodone. It's one of the few opiates I could do without along with codiene, demerol and Darvocet.

i never once said that is the ONLY reason people pick oxycodone. Im aware its possible to have a preference that is based on experience with a drug. I was simply saying that price issues do play a deciding factor in what drug some, and truthfully most, people prefer.
 
davesoviet said:
IVing oxycodone is very similar to IVing heroin. Except oxycodone is more euphoric, you stand a better chance of being able to function on it being that it has a slightly stimulating effect and you're less likely to be nodding off, and the high only last about an hour at most. I actually prefer the oxycodone rush to the heroin rush. But I'd rather use heroin simply because it's more bang for the buck.

You probably just missed the vein if you didn't get anything off 15mgs when you can actually feel 5mgs.

However, if you can actually feel 5mgs, I think you're absolutely foolish for injecting it in the first place. Leave the needles alone as long as you can. It's not something you want to get into.

You can't tell me the oxycodone rush is better than heroin and then not expect me to inject it :p It sounds good~ :)

But, seriously, it was my first time injecting anything and I only wanted to see what it is like. I was very curious and I do want to do it again because I didn't get much out of it. I understand what you say when telling me not to go down that route and something that made me think about it last night was when I stumbled across a website which had a couple of thousand memorials to people who had died of heroin overdoses. It brought the dangers home. However, I'm young, naive and "foolish", so there's no telling me ;)

I won't bother trying to inject oxy again until I can get 20mg IR capsules (instead of the 5mg IR ones - I wasn't injecting perocet or anything...). Then I'll probably try 40mg and see if it feels any better. Even though I could feel 5mg, it doesn't mean I don't have a small habit of 25mg, 30mg oxycodone a day, plus amounts of hydrocodone and dihydrocodeine. I haven't been opiate free in over 4 months and 5mg oxy only gives me a very minor buzz, 10mg feels good, probably 20/25mg would feel excellant.

OCjunky said:
I think you get less side effects on the drug your more accustomed to.

Yes, but only to some extent. I have used hydrocodone 60+ times and am quite sure the constipation is worse (we know you don't grow tollerant to that) and the hiccups I get occur only after having taken hydrocodone more than once or for more than one day,etc. Whereas OXY has been gentle with me from the start (never had any problems with SEs). I believe the limiting factor also to me is that the only hydrocodone I have access to is coupled with Ibuprofen (don't even have hydrocodone fullstop in my country) and I greatly dislike Ibuprofen - I am sure my stomach upset may actually come from that, rather than the hydrocodone. If it were with paracetamol or pure, then I think I might like it much more :) It was quite fun last night actually~ More relaxing than oxy, I must admit. - Leon
 
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Kei said:
You can't tell me the oxycodone rush is better than heroin and then not expect me to inject it :p It sounds good~ :)

But, seriously, it was my first time injecting anything and I only wanted to see what it is like. I was very curious and I do want to do it again because I didn't get much out of it. I understand what you say when telling me not to go down that route and something that made me think about it last night was when I stumbled across a website which had a couple of thousand memorials to people who had died of heroin overdoses. It brought the dangers home. However, I'm young, naive and "foolish", so there's no telling me ;)

I won't bother trying to inject oxy again until I can get 20mg IR capsules (instead of the 5mg IR ones - I wasn't injecting perocet or anything...). Then I'll probably try 40mg and see if it feels any better. Even though I could feel 5mg, it doesn't mean I don't have a small habit of 25mg, 30mg oxycodone a day, plus amounts of hydrocodone and dihydrocodeine. I haven't been opiate free in over 4 months and 5mg oxy only gives me a very minor buzz, 10mg feels good, probably 20/25mg would feel excellant.



Yes, but only to some extent. I have used hydrocodone 60+ times and am quite sure the constipation is worse (we know you don't grow tollerant to that) and the hiccups I get occur only after having taken hydrocodone more than once or for more than one day,etc. Whereas OXY has been gentle with me from the start (never had any problems with SEs). I believe the limiting factor also to me is that the only hydrocodone I have access to is coupled with Ibuprofen (don't even have hydrocodone fullstop in my country) and I greatly dislike Ibuprofen - I am sure my stomach upset may actually come from that, rather than the hydrocodone. If it were with paracetamol or pure, then I think I might like it much more :) It was quite fun last night actually~ More relaxing than oxy, I must admit. - Leon

Yeah, its most likely the ibuprofen making it worse, i mean the hydro may upset your stomach alittle, but im sure the ibuprofen is contributing to most of it. In higher doses, ibuprofen realllly upsets my stomach too.

Yeah, hydro is really sedating man, thats for sure. Thats why sometimes i use oxy when i want to go out because hydro is too relaxing/sedating and i dont want to do shit when im on it but chill in front of the tv and scratch.

By the way, i wouldnt start slamming anything, try to stick to dosing orally/snorting...
 
OCjunky said:
By the way, i wouldnt start slamming anything, try to stick to dosing orally/snorting...

Yeah, I hear yeah. What's never helped the matter is that even when I was young I never had any such great aversion towards needles. I suppose I must just be weird :\

Having done both oxy and hydro today, I feel now that it is too close to call. Bring on the hydrocodone that isn't tainted with additives and I reckon it's near 50/50 for me. Horses for courses.
 
IMHO, Oxycontin is BAD NEWS!!!! The only time it might be good is if you shoot it. If you snort or swallow the pill, ....ugh. Anyway, for me, I started itching badly, sweating, and felt like I was going to puke. I didn't even feel any rush..just sort of a border-line I don't give a shit feeling. Also, you build up a tolerance on that stuff super fast. To me, there is nothing better than a brand name Vicodin. Stick with the Hydro's. It takes a long time to build up a tolerance and the high is so mellow and sweet. I get a wee buzz so that I can function and I get that cherished "I don't care" feeling that I crave.
 
^Thats like me.

I have been an opiate user for about 3 years, but a daily abuser for the past 8 months.

For some ODD reason, i still can sniff 40 mg of oxycontin, and still get a decent buzz.

Everyday i usually snort 60 MG, then plug 20 MG of Norco. Thats my routine basically. And still whenever i run out and need to slow down till my next script, i just snort 40 MG and i end up still feeling decent, im so happy my tolerance isnt in the 100 plus range like it once was, but thats when i was dosing twice a day, thats when my tolerance really climbs (dosing twice a day).

Peace
 
fallenangel, u definantly took too much oxy, try it again with a smaller dosage...

as for the whole hydro oxy thing, i mean it shouldent even be an argument about which is better, there is ONE molocule that differs on the 2 drugs and as there names go with oxy the molocule is oxygen, and with hydro its hydrogen, if im not mistaken the molocule that differes is in the exact same place on both structures so the whole difference is like barely anything atall, myself ive never used hydros but i am addicted to oxys, 180mg - 250mg/day the withdrawls when trying to quit are fucking horrable and for all of you still taking 10-20mg to get high id stop while you can because you are only going to end up where i am now, not even a year ago i was doing the exact same thing and now i cant even grab a cup of coffee in the morning when i wake up without railing atleast 60mg of oxy, i know it may sound great to some of you to be using a 100+mg's a day of opiates but the fun is shortlived and the only reason it continues is to stay "normal" and keep withdrawl at bay...

i hope i can help some of you not become like me with this post... with that said untill i can try some hydros (id definantly extract the hydro, acetaminophen = YUCK!!!) oxys for the win, since oxycontins have no tylenol in em.. im sure the hydro would be more comparable if there was this mythical "HydroContin" available but like i said untill i try it oxy for the win, talk to you all later :)
 
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