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Which 2c-x for first time?

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2cb 4-6 hours
2cc 4-7 hours

the intensity depends on the dose. I don't think 2cb will be more intense than 2 tabs of acid, but they're not really comparable drug - there's more of a "rolly" feeling on 2cb than on acid, which may be intense but not in an overwhelming way.

i believe with higher doses of 2cc, such as 70mg +, people report consistent +++s which may be more intense than 1 or 2 tabs of acid, but that also depends on the strength of your acid. i've had very intense experiences on 2 tabs of strong acid, that rivaled 20mg 2ce experiences.
 
I was JUST going to start a thread on this, but my reference to Beginner was more like, First Timer.

My friend wants to try LSD but there is a shortage at the moment, on the otherhand there is massive surplus 2c-e and 2ct-7

For me, like many others, I had LSD first before having RCs, so I was always able to compare everything back to acid.

But what happens if you have a different psychedelic first? Then your perception of tripping will blossom completely differently wouldn't it?

Both ways are different, but can one say that any way is better than the other?
 
I don't think your perception of tripping will be significantly different starting on one type of psychedelic vs. another. Especially if you eventually try both.

anyway, if you do one of those, I would say start with 2-c-t7. They're both somewhat intense 2c's to start with, but from what I hear 2-c-t7 is more recreational/euphoric (not that it is particularly euphoric, I haven't tried t7 myself though) than 2c-e. I love 2c-e, but it might not be the best for beginners. Which is what I told the 8 people that I sold some to today, but they were insistent upon it despite my cautions.. so eh haha.
 
I am now realizing how different "intensity" and " overwhelming" are.
I enjoy intensity.
But overwhelming can be so unenjoyable.
And that is what I fear.
I want to be able to handle things and not feel completely uncontrolled.
I really want to enjoy the beauty of tipping for once as I cant anymore on acid :/
I do love rolling though, very experienced on it even in higher doses(not the highest though).
From what I've been reading, 2C-B sounds like the way to go.
Would rolling with it be a great combo for first time?
Or should I experience 2C-B by itself?
 
take it orally.. there's nothing like snorting 2ce for your first time and clutching your nose in pain for the first half hour of your trip on a bathroom floor while the whole world melts around you.
2ce has a bit of a body load.. 2cb not so much, and 2ci right in the middle. At least for me. I'd probably start with 2cb, if you can get ahold of it. Haven't tried 2c-t-7 just yet but I hear it's a little more intense. I doubt there's much to be afraid of, just stay relaxed and enjoy the trip, take a little less if you're concerned.
 
2c-b and a roll would probably be an amazing combination.

but, I would probably try 2c-b first to gauge the effects. you can try the combo if you don't hate it.
 
What should I expect going into a 2cb trip?
How could I prepare for it? (environment wise and who I'm with and mentally?)
And for starting out what dose if I'm a little nervous?
Thank you very much for the help you guys!
 
same way you would prepare for a shroom or acid trip. you can either wait until your life is straightened out and have a recreational trip, or you can trip at a time of great upheaval in your life looking for change.

a little strange how you're asking "what should i take" as that is against the rules. if you have 2c-b or any drug available to you, you should be establishing a good relationship with your dealer and his frequent clients. they will be able to tell you if his stuff is legit and what a good dose is. also read the erowid page for any drug you encounter, as a bare minimum!

can u clarify your reasons and/or background for asking?
 
I am not asking for specifically what to take, I'm just asking for suggestions to decide upon for myself for my first time.
I ask because I really enjoyed tripping when I was on a good one.
I just can't handle acid, and shrooms just creep me.
I don't know whether it's me or just too potent acid...
I like a trip that is more Of realization and beautifully enjoyable.
Not the overwhelming mind fuck and being tossed around so much to where I just want out one hour into it.
 
well then it sounds like the 2c family will be just what you would enjoy.

if you can find someone who has a 2c-x, research that specific one to find good starting dosage. each one has a different potency and side effects, depending on your own personal body chemistry.

beware they do have a fairly intense "body load" that can be overwhelming at first, but IMO it can be extremely pleasurable once you get the hang of it.
 
Agreed, 2C-B and 2C-C are wonderful for this.
2C-D is also a potential candidate but I never really hit it off with that one. It's so subtle and mild, though some might say you have to take serious doses of it to remedy that. I just don't know... better just stick to 2C-B or 2C-C.
2C-B is more convincing at reasonably low doses but the downside is that it can be harder to find nowadays. If you have enough 2C-C to take copious doses (perhaps better the second time?) then that is wonderful, I'd almost prefer 2C-C but its a photofinish.
 
Really? Wow that doesn't sound like a great plan at all...
- Its said it is like 2C-E which is one of the most serious 2C-X (grand though) and it can be relentless and overwhelming
- The duration is long

And that is assuming you are dosing correctly which is something to learn in itself, much better to 'practice' with things that are less prone to a psychedelic 'OD'.

To the OP, if you want more info - I've strung together two beginner psychedelic threads into the Big & Dandy one here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=475623

If you skip through it you will notice people mention 2C-X.

I HATE to be dogmatic but I don't really get people saying different ones than the obvious mild phens... my guess is that these people have not tried a whole lot, or like special K started with a potent one and came out unharmed. No offense but that's not an argument against the claim that the potent ones have a bigger potential for mishaps.
By all means 2C-T-7 is glorious and I would recommend it in general, you would also probably be okay if you get some good advice and guidance and titrate your dose appropriately but it is much less of a toy than 2C-B or 2C-C.
Psychedelics are not toys, granted... that is too disrespectful and irresponsible... but 2C-B and 2C-C have a larger margin for error, they are quite forgiving. Remember though: ANY trip can overwhelm you under certain circumstances, especially if you turn out to be more than averagely sensitive.

To conclude, I always thought - going by mushrooms - that tryptamines were much more serious and deeper and hardcore trippy than phenethylamines esp. 2C-X... when I tried more of them I was proven wrong somewhat: there are very mild and lighthearted ones like 4-HO-DiPT. I found that surprisingly easy to deal with.
 
exactly. each 2c-x has a different "flavor" of primary and secondary effects, as well as a different duration of action. also, each person has slightly different levels of various receptor subtypes and genetic predisposition, so don't take any trip reports at "face value"... what is visual for one person may be all body for another, etc.
 
Any of the 2C-Halogens - 2C-C/B/I.

10-15mg 2C-I, 15-20mg 2C-B or 20-30mg of 2C-C would be good for first time.

2C-I is the most visual, and has the most stimulation (some find it too stimulating, but that's usually only in higher doses).

2C-B is probably likely to be the most enjoyable of the three, but it also the hardest to find. It's less visual than 2C-I, but also more euphoric and with less stimulation.

2C-C is the most relaxed, and it's less visual than the others, and it's visuals are also, IME, qualitatively different from 2C-I and 2C-B. More breathing surfaces, and less colors/patterns.
 
Sorry, I feel this thread doesn't fully fit with the guidelines. There are plenty of great threads with in reach that can help give you an idea of what you might like to take. Do some research on your own and figure out what would be potentially the best phenethylamine for you.

Please follow the link below to find our Psychedelic drug index. Its wonderfully organized and has all of our big and dandies for the compounds in question.
 
I used to really love ecstasy, not so much anymore... Last few pills have been piperzines and RC's (bk-MDMA :/ was not impressed) so I've decided to step into the wide world of RC purchasings and see what I like.

So which or the 2c-x's is intense yet gentle, not too much mindfuck (from what I hear this would not be 2c-e lol) and generally uninhibiting/recreational?

Thanks
 
I just did I and found it to be very enjoyable but significantly longer lasting than expected. 17 mg for a 170 lber had me still seeing significant visuals for 12 hours, my pupils dilated for 15, and kept me from going to bed for 20+ hours.

Keep that in mind.
 
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