When you cycle do you use amph or mdma?

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I am going to post this here and in the mdma forum as well if it okay with the mods:

When you cycle do you use amph and/or mdma in conjunction in the GYM?

Have you ever?

Please share experience. I am curious and I want to discuss this with people who have experience.

* Is it okay for me to post this here and the mdma forum? <3 Please %)
 
I personally LOVE taking low dose amphetamines and hitting the gym...ALthough it is counterproductive becuase of the sleep deprivation and appetite suppression...Here's my advice---keep the doses LOW and only use once every 2 weeks or so..IMO
 
I would be weary w amps due to BP on a lot of gear - just keep an eye on that esp when working out. I love mdma lol, won't even lie.
 
theartofwar said:
I would be weary w amps due to BP on a lot of gear - just keep an eye on that esp when working out. I love mdma lol, won't even lie.
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Lol... I am gonna join you saying I love mdma as well.
Blood pressure really does not dramatically increase for me on mdma. Well Mdma alone not bases or booster. But Mdma alone is a little boring.
 
PARooolller said:
I personally LOVE taking low dose amphetamines and hitting the gym...ALthough it is counterproductive becuase of the sleep deprivation and appetite suppression...Here's my advice---keep the doses LOW and only use once every 2 weeks or so..IMO
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I love taking d-amp and going to the gym as well (I am not using steroids though). For me though, I tend to get hungry on it and eat a lot more on d-amp than I would off of it. I also have no problem going to sleep on d-amp either.

My dosages are typically just 10mg once to twice per day. At the most I would take 20mg once per day, with another 10mg at the least 8 hours later.

I have ADHD though so I figure this is why d-amp effects me much differently than most people. It is better to not use d-amp frequently if you have appetite suppression from it like you said. :)
 
I want the over drive. The 15th rep on 10rep set. That instinct to want to go through the limits.

In all the years I lifed, second week of May was the most intense I have ever had. I gotta think of a better more detailed way to discribe this and post it.
 
Never tried but I feel like the effects would be detrimental. The only intoxicant I'd recommend is coffee. I haven't done it in awhile but smoking a bowl of bud and immediately lifting enhancing mind/muscle connection. I'm using anavar so I stopped doing that (along with cutting back on caffeine).

I feel like being on AS and taking extreme stims is a recipe for chaos. At least as far as your blood pressure is concerned.
 
auhsoJ said:
Never tried but I feel like the effects would be detrimental. The only intoxicant I'd recommend is coffee. I haven't done it in awhile but smoking a bowl of bud and immediately lifting enhancing mind/muscle connection. I'm using anavar so I stopped doing that (along with cutting back on caffeine).

I feel like being on AS and taking extreme stims is a recipe for chaos. At least as far as your blood pressure is concerned.
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Agree...Stimulants are so counter-productive if your main goal is to build (or even maintain) muscle mass.
 
PARooolller said:
Agree...Stimulants are so counter-productive if your main goal is to build (or even maintain) muscle mass.
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While dieting and CNS issues arise do you find then a counter, and if so how?


ebola? said:
I don't know if I'm alone, but even if sleep deprived, I feel energized once actually conducting aerobic exercise.

ebola
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Last night I could not fall asleep (Not on mdma or stim) until 3 am. This morning I was up at 8 am. I hit the gym and hit the stepper for 30 min lifted and hit it for another 20 min. I felt much better.

Aerobics and over-all energy have always gone hand in hand for me as well.
 
virtually all 'recreational' drugs tend to hurt anabolism (whether on gear or not), but blood pressure's the main thing I'd worry about (as was mentioned).

That said, my best roll of all time was while on a sust cycle ;PP
/I'd still choose rolling over drinking while on cycle/training
 
DirtyMexican said:
While dieting and CNS issues arise do you find then a counter, and if so how?


I'm always dieting..When referring to CNS issues, as already mentioned, high blood pressure is the main concern while training on stimulants.

Alcohol and stimulants tend to be the two categories of substances that can REALLY hinder your gains.
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that's the truth - there's actually a great, albeit huuuge, writeup on alcohol/anabolism on these boards ("alcohol and you" I believe... it's an old copy/paste, very comprehensive ;P )
 
when u says d-amps do u mean amphetamines? sorry if thats a really stupid question but i dont know.. iv done a few cycles of clen and eca stacks before but i didnt know ppl take amphetamine before the gym lol. i took high grade cocaine before the gym once and will not be doing that again in a hurry haha
 
d-amp = dextroamphetamine (dexedrine)

i couldn't imagine trying to do serious training on anything past like 10mg of amph's, i'd be afraid my chest would explode lol. same for ephedrine, would have to be crazy low-dose for either of them. caffeine is more tolerable here, but less effective (and is demonstratably useless for anabolic training, and only moderately useful for aerobic training). mj is beautiful for more 'isolation', 'high rep' training imo (i'd never get in a squat rack while stoned, or speeding, but cardio/gpp while on stims, or the mind/muscle enhancement of pot while doing higher-rep weight training, can be quite agreeable ;P )

/health, anabolism, and lifting-enhancements aside, it's inherently dangerous to do any 'real' lifts while intoxicated imo.
 
im currently cutting, just done 2 wks clen and taurine. going to do another 2 wks on 30mg eph, 200mg caffiene... do u guys think the dexedrine wud be more usefull? i dont really want to lose muscle per say, just get more defined
 
i'll never understand supplementing taurine (insert practically any individual amino there if you wish)

i find dex far more agreeable than caffeine/ephedrine, though i don't really endorse any stims for use in training outside of, say, a pre-game enhancement. don't really support them in the gym.

((and based on how you phrased that, i'd read up and also make sure your diet's in line. your wording makes me fear you're going to tear through muscle while you're cutting :/ ))
EDIT- remember, being defined is a *combination* of good muscle/low fat. to aim for definition by only cutting fat, and not preserving muscle, is making things way harder for yourself
 
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