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When Snorting Heroin is No Longer Practical

Wow you guys are making me want to try tar heroin. Even tho all the talk anout impurites and getting infections turns me off. I'd like to try it still, weird about not seeing the blood rush in cause its so fucking dark. I don't really like shooting rocks with vinegar so it'd be like that all the time, I don't know if my veins would be able to take vinegar shots all the time, I rarely shoot rocks but when I do I usually agrravate a vein to the point I can't juse it for a bit.

Its funny cause I had a dream about having some tar H, went as far as smelling it when it cooked and I have no idea how tar smells. It was a jacked up dream tho cause I was cooking a suboxone tablet with it.. that equals instant death no? shooting Suboxone with H? Was such a goofy dream but so vivid.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
I know that east coast is alot more pure and stronger, but the high doesn't last nearly as long as tar does, probably due to the morphine and acetylmorphine content in tar. As for price, I find it far more expensive than just 80 for a gram around here. I mean, you can get an 80 for shitty quality dope, but high quality is 120-200...

And no, I'm not getting bad deals. Quite a few bluelighters know the same dealers I did or do know (out of coincidence, I've never met them which is kinda funny that we go to the same people) and can vouch I'm not getting shitty dope.

Some people like their dope a little more stimulating and able to be able to actually move on it. Others prefer to be knocked the fuck out and completely relaxed to the point you can't move.
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I understand that you might pay 200 for a quality bundle. But straight up, that aint necessary. Ive got tons of FIRE shit for $100 a bundle. Maybe you are payin that much, but that aint some kind of norm at least as far as i ever heard from other users. That is common from people who are gettin dope that gets handed down thru mad heads before it gets to you cuz youre payin for the convenience of not coppin, gettin it brought to you, etc. a $80 bundle really aint necessarily less quality....What im sayin is, if youre gettin regular decent shit for 80 then a raised price for some serious fire shit is still only around $100....I never heard of no 200 dollar bundle gettin copped off the street without mad middlemen.



Ive got relaxed so hard off EC dope in the past that i couldnt walk and my legs just gave out from under me. That was some shit in 03 there was some good stamps back then. or maybe it just seems better lookin back after a mad raised tolerance, i dont know. But im just sayn the feeling you described (stimulating vs KO'd) aint exclusive to tar. i dont really know how you could think that the powder is stimulating but i guess that how it feels to you....but that aint really a way to describe that shit for most people yo. it sounds like youre comparin oxys and dope or somethin the way youre seein it.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Oh. Well, I don't know what causes the duration to be soooo much longer but it's definitely alot longer.

I mean, it's not like "me" or just the tar I got. It lasts a fuckload longer. Like it's really obvious. Like 6+ hours of peak/nearpeak, whereas the high on east coast starts to taper after 1 hour.

I'd be interested too, I assumed it was the morphine. Could be something else.
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Almost sounds like you're shooting up opium, it sounds like exact differences in duration between say pharm grade morphine tablets and some pod tea.

I'm convinced we still don't have the full story on opium's metabolism, and it can't just be some weak antagonist action from some minor alkaloid.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Oh. Well, I don't know what causes the duration to be soooo much longer but it's definitely alot longer.

I mean, it's not like "me" or just the tar I got. It lasts a fuckload longer. Like it's really obvious. Like 6+ hours of peak/nearpeak, whereas the high on east coast starts to taper after 1 hour.

I'd be interested too, I assumed it was the morphine. Could be something else.
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I highly doubt that tar's peak/nearpeak lasts 6 hours.

And the high with powder does not taper after 1 hour(even if you shoot it).
 
SonOF said:
I can't say for certain if I could or couldn't handle IV because I have never done it, ya dig? But at the same time, I don't feel like I need to take that next step for "research purposes" or anything. :)
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That's probably a good idea, considering that "research" wouldn't be a one-time thing.
 
Oh, and I moved from the West Coast to the Southeast for the rest of the year. Shot Tar before, and powder here.

Tar ripped me APART. Way fucking worse on me than powder. That being said, it's a pretty good high, lasted me a lot longer, and was WAY cheaper. I do enjoy the powder high more, though.

So it's basically Tar=economically viable, +++ longevity of stash
and powder=healthier(HAH!), smoother high
 
ColdSoreSuperstar said:
Oh, and I moved from the West Coast to the Southeast for the rest of the year. Shot Tar before, and powder here.

Tar ripped me APART. Way fucking worse on me than powder. That being said, it's a pretty good high, lasted me a lot longer, and was WAY cheaper. I do enjoy the powder high more, though.

So it's basically Tar=economically viable, +++ longevity of stash
and powder=healthier(HAH!), smoother high
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I dont know this for sure I never tried dope down south. So take it with a grain of salt about what im bout to say. But up here in the northeast is where there is the best powder dope from what i understand. I aint saying there would be a HUGE difference, Like i said its speculation, But i would be interested in what someone who tried both tar and high power east coast dope from NJ/NY/Philly would say. (The highest purity dope seems to be located in that area and decline a lil in quality as you get farther away from that. From what i been told.)

I know it wouldnt prolly be THAT different, but i want to know how some of that high quality fire shit that we get up here would compare against tar.


As far as TRs and phrozens posts.....No the EC powder does not stop after 1 hour. Where do you get your info from. You say that its common for a bundle of good shit to go for 200$ and that it starts to decline after one hour, are we even talkin about the same drug here. Sometimes it makes me wonder when people say shit like that if they are really talkin from experience. Not doubting or callin anyone a liar. Just that its weird when people describe their experience as somethin totally different than what the huge majority of people get with the same thing.
 
^yea but you dont IV it right? ive found the east coast powder when IV'd lasts way shorter than if you bump it. i mean IVing it is an awesome rush and is an A+ heroin experience, but when you get tolerant to it and you do a shot, it doesnt seem to last very long. its like you get the rush and an hour later, ur like hmm, maybe ill do another shot.
 
When you're dependent, an IV shot(that'll get you high), will keep away withdrawal for about 6 hours. The overall "high" will last around 4 hours.

If you're not dependent at all, an IV shot may get you high for 6 hours. Of course this varies based on purity/dose.

As far as intranasal heroin, I've never really noticed a difference in duration. Of course, we're talking about "equal" doses here. For example, if I'm not dependent and a 100mg shot(large dose!) gets me high for 6 hours, It'd take me 200mg intranasally to come close to that IV high. The length would be the same.

That's all coming from my personal experience. I'm sure others that have used alongside of me would agree with I said above.
 
Sub-Q or IM

I tried to read through most of the replies but this is a super long thread.

I'm actually surprised that no one suggested skin popping or intramuscular.

It doesn't leave track marks, but still takes less to get you more fucked up (IMO) than snorting.

It's what I've always done, I shoot my Fentanyl intramuscular in my hip. I just hide my needles, and no one ever sees the marks. I've been doing it for about 5 years and my husband sees me naked pretty much everyday - he has no idea that I do it, and neither does anyone that I work with.

It's a good alternative to going IV. So I guess I wouldn't choose any of the options that you listed, I'd go with SubQ (just in the skin) or IM (in the hip muscle).

It doesn't even take much skill. Good luck.
 
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AH....how often do you use, where do you source (pharm fent, street fent, lab-synth fent), do you use fresh needles every time, do you use 'safe' IVing protocol in general, etc....

IM and SC can be risky if a user's not careful AND lucky, even riskier with street heroin that a user can't know the cuts of, etc. kudos to you if you've managed to stay safe with these methods of admin, but you probably shouldn't recommend them to anyone else, in the name of harm reduction.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's pharm grade fent. Street fent and lab-synth fent is very rare.

Do not IM/SC street drugs! If you're crazy enough to do it, use a micron filter(<.22). That'll negate some of the risks, but not all of them.
 
I have pharm grade Fentanyl. I have a prescription for the patch, and I squeeze out the gel and purify the Fentanyl from that. And yes, I'm careful and use safe injection techniques.

It's true, subq and IM can be dangerous if you aren't experienced with it, or don't know how to do it in the first place. Then again, IV administration can be just as risky for the same reasons.
 
AtiVanHalen said:
I have pharm grade Fentanyl. I have a prescription for the patch, and I squeeze out the gel and purify the Fentanyl from that. And yes, I'm careful and use safe injection techniques.
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This is really a dangerous statement. This product is nowhere near pharm-grade with an extraction method this crude. I have a fully-equipped lab and access to additional instruments that I don't own myself or within my department. I have also tried many methods purifying from gel and I can tell you, you're pulling a lot more out of the gel than just fentanyl.
 
I apologize if I made a dangerous statement. I've actually perfected a method of getting it out of the gel.

But that's only when I don't feel like acquiring ampules. I'm sorry if I didn't put that across, which now that I look at my post, it's pretty clear that I didn't put in everything that I meant to. I'm sorry, sometimes I'm tired as hell from work when I post on here. :(
 
- that's ok and understandable- but my point was that I want you (and anyone who would attempt something like this) to know that you are injecting more than fentanyl. To fully purify is a much more involved process and takes more than just isopropanol.

It can also be dangerous as a method just in terms of difficulty of getting an accurate or safe dose. I'm sure you have an amount that works for you, but the amount of material pulled from a patch is tough to measure accurately without the right instrumentation. Because the mission of this board is harm reduction, it is very important to mention these things- you wouldn't want someone who found a patch to pull up that first post and just go with it, ya know?
 
Oh believe me, it took me forever to find a dose I could use for recreation, that wouldn't get me dizzy and vomiting everywhere. It can be a good drug, if used in the right circumstances, the right doses, and such.

It's really not for a novice opiate user. I'll state it again in this post - it is REALLY not something to just be messing around with because you found a couple of patches.

Anyways, thanks for pointing out my mistake there and I hope nobody went out and did something stupid because I made a half assed post late at night.

God I need to get more sleep.
 
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