When Snorting Heroin is No Longer Practical

['medicine cabinet']

Yea every region has it's own little 'isms'. I know in Bodymore that there's "scramble" and "raw" and no one knows what the fuck that means unless you've been there. Bmore is also famous for the little glass vials the raw comes in, they don't use stamp bags. They are glass vials with classic orange tops (although I've seen novelty sellers do black). Raw is always in 20s, scramble in 10s. In DC they are always wax bags in $6 bags.

It's just different from city to city.

If you like snorting, then whatever. I must say that IV is alot better in every respect, but that's completely personal preference. But do not switch to IV to continue a habit and because it's getting to expensive. Only reason you should switch to IV is because you are curious and want a new experience.

I strongly recommend you break your tolerance and habit before trying IV out.

yea there are spots in bmore that still sell 6$ scramble caps. they call them jumbo 6's...its scramble so its hit or miss. but you get a lot of powder for the $ even tho its a ton of cut. most street dudes sell the raw in the vials but some do miniziplock bags. my old connec was doin vials then switched up to bags and it was tight cause they were 20$ but it would be just a big chunk of rock hard dope. some of the bags would be huge and crush up to be a good amount of powder. bags were 20$ each but he woudl cut deal all the way up. like 5 for 80$ or 10 or a gram for 150$

for the ppl farther up north how easy is it to get grams. id imagine u couldnt just hit up any strip for something like that too easily. what does a gram work out to in the stamp bags, more than a bundle? cause muy boy was gettin 13bags for 80$ from a rican in wilmington and there was no way there was a gram of powder in there. do they just sell grams powdered up? or is it easy to get the rocked up shit?

 

[phr]

A typical bundle in Philly(13 bags) is a little bit over a gram. Each bag is around 100mg. But that may certainly vary, even on the same corner. I've had bags that were double the regular size, and I've had bags that were half.

You're not going to get grams by just asking a corner dealer. Most get pre-packed bundles and have no control over packaging. But, if you find the right guy and build a relationship, he might be able to get you grams. Most regular corner dealers won't bother though, as their profit margin is higher if they sell stamps. Shit, most dealers prefer selling looseys for $10 a pop, as opposed to a 13 bag bundle for $110.

That's just in Philly, in NJ/NYC, bundles are typically 10 bags and go for around $70-80.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

y old connec was doin vials then switched up to bags and it was tight cause they were 20$ but it would be just a big chunk of rock hard dope. some of the bags would be huge and crush up to be a good amount of powder. bags were 20$ each but he woudl cut deal all the way up. like 5 for 80$ or 10 or a gram for 150$

lol yea but he wasn't the average street dealer

I've been able to cop grams of dope off the street in bmore easily before. What I always do is get a 10/20 first to test them out though, they are also a little easier to let you sniff it out and all before handing the money with a 10 than with 100.

Subcutaneous injection is not safe at all with heroin. It's an acid so it'll burn and do damage, it isn't sterile and doesn't have the same immune system features that makes IV safer, and particulate matter trapped in the skin can be pretty damaging to your skin (perhaps worse than in your veins, though that's just small particulate).

The idea that it's safer because you aren't absorbing as much drug is really ludicrous too. What if you get dope that's twice as strong? Just like IV, the dose is in your system and you can't really get it out, and like IV, you aren't taking small doses like you do with snorting but just one big dose.

SC has all the dangers of IV, and then some. If you want to avoid overdose and be overly cautious just stick to snorting, rectal administration, or use a butterfly and load up each dose in multiple syringes to IV your dose progressively.

 

[SonOF]

as an update, I've been doing my best to limit my H use. I'm currently using like 3 times a week rather than 7, and my tolerance has been much more manageable. I'd really like to get it down to once a week or less, and think I can do it.

I'm glad I have chosen not to IV. I know that would be a decision I would regret.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Way to go champ

 

[phr]

Good to hear. Keep up the good work.

 

[xxanxxtwo]

Yes, well done!! I wish you the best of luck, and commend your willpower - I wish I had it.....

 

[Smacklover]

B) Switch to IV administration. I will need far fewer bags to get high, and will give my nose a rest.

C) Take a break (how long?) to hopefully once again reduce my tolerance.

D) Quit for good.

I would say D, which is where I'm headed but since you don't want to stop just yet I'd go with C and then B.

I've only done IV heroin and it is quite a drug. I love the rush, the itch, the whole she-bang. It's hard to quit, I'll whole heartedly admit that, man is it hard to quit. It's the craving, the utter longing after the physical illness has long since passed that nags at my very soul.

It is possible to quit, I quit for 13 years and now I'm going to quit again, (I'm a dumb ass I know), and this time it has to be for good. I have way to much to lose.

If you have an addictive personality don't touch the needle and go with C. If you can maintain some kind of self control and deep down you know you need to quit for good eventually, well then you make the choice. Always remember proper hygiene, never share needles, etc...

Just know this: once you jack heroin I doubt you will ever want to do it any other way.

My 2 cents.

 

[xxanxxtwo]

Just know this: once you jack heroin I doubt you will ever want to do it any other way.

My 2 cents.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Smacklover]

and there are so many risks invovlved with shooting up.

How do you figure? In the safety of your own place with clean works and proper procedure any 'risks' are reduced to the point of nil, just the ever present OD. And ODing can be greatly minimized by shooting less not more. You can always do more but not so the other way around. 4 cents. Sorry, I'm and replying as I go along.

 

[SonOF]

Which do you guys think is better, as far health, addiction potential, withdrawals, tolerance, etc. are concerned?

- Using smaller doses of heroin (maybe 3-4 bags in a day) more often

- Using less frequently, with larger doses (having a longer and/or stronger high; perhaps a gram/bundle/10 bags)


I'm inclined to think that using larger doses less frequently may be better, at least in my case. It's almost rewarding myself for having self-control and staying off the stuff for a while. I think if I make H a "treat" instead of a mundane, frequent activity, I will be better off. I don't want H to be a major part of my life, rather a nice high that I enjoy on a less regular basis.

Thoughts?

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Using less frequently with larger doses. Redosing, in the end, ends up actually using up more drug and will lead to higher increases in tolerance, which in turn increases addiction potential and withdrawals.

One large dose will keep you satisfied for longer, and be enough to drain you physically that you'll be inclined to rest afterwards rather than redose.

 

[SonOF]

Using less frequently with larger doses. Redosing, in the end, ends up actually using up more drug and will lead to higher increases in tolerance, which in turn increases addiction potential and withdrawals.

I wasn't really referring to dosing within the same day. I meant, do you think it is a better idea to, for example:

-Use H one day a week, on that day you consume a gram

-Use H three times a week, on each of those days you consume 600 mgs (that number is just arbitrary, but I think you can see that I am getting at)

?

 

[Smacklover]

one large dose my also kill you... food for thought.

good luck man.

 

[SonOF]

one large dose my also kill you... food for thought.

I appreciate the concern, but I am pretty careful, and I do only snort H, never inject.

On a side note, does anyone know of, or heard about a heroin overdose from snorting (for someone with a tolerance and experiene; without mixing any other drugs like alcohol or benzos)? Obviously I am not so naive to think it isn't possible, but I have never heard any cases of it.

 

[Ham-milton]

Look into plugging it if smoking won't work for you and you're not ready to IV. You'll get to play with syringes (albeit slightly different syringes) and still get a decent rush (I enjoyed it)

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I wasn't really referring to dosing within the same day. I meant, do you think it is a better idea to, for example:

-Use H one day a week, on that day you consume a gram

-Use H three times a week, on each of those days you consume 600 mgs (that number is just arbitrary, but I think you can see that I am getting at)

I don't see a difference between either, since in both instances you are redosing, unless you are talking about actually snorting an entire gram of heroin on that day, or snorting 600 mg in one dose in that day... then your tolerance will be so high I don't think you could maintain it at such high lvls with once a week use.

The more you redose before being sober again, the faster addiction will take root. I'd say your 3 times a week is worse since it's overall more heroin but they are still both bad...

I'd say dosing only once per day every day for a week with a considerably smaller dose, say, 100 mg, is better than those listed possibilities.

 

[Ham-milton]

Yeah, but he's gonna have to take at least enough to get a buzz from it. IF he's taking 6 bags a day, one day a week with a really small dose isn't gonna be enough.

Tolerance will decrease, no doubt, but itll never drop to that level.

 

[ColdSoreSuperstar]

IV isn't something you moonlight in. If you go there, you will not go back. It's like veins or nothing. Not saying it's good or bad to make the switch, i'm just saying.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

^ Makes me wonder why anyone snorts or smokes any drug in the first place. Maybe they start snorting because it's socially acceptable?

And what does that say about a person ;/