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whats your plant nemesis

asecin said:
oh delta9 i knew it man. i knew you will be the party pooper here. you always try to be so "positive" that it hurts. i mean i know positivity is always helpful to most people, but try to always see the other side of things plz. its good for you and people around acknowledging you posses deep contrast of things.

so can you try to find a plant you really dislike based on experiences, general history with other people or anything related to negative association when it comes to mind ? :\
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Trust me I'm not all that positive. I have my bad days just like everyone else.

But If pushed I suppose I could name a plant that I dislike, even if the reason is a silly one.
As I dislike alcohol and it's effects I guess I would say hops, are they are (arguably) the main ingredient in brewing beer. Yes I know there are no hops in other alcoholic beverages like wine and spirits, but I quite like grapes(wine) and spirits can be made from just about any kind of grain anyway, so I suppose hops will have to do.
 
asecin said:
hey psood0nym, matsuo and 3rd eye can you please refrain from ganging up on me and trolling me in a thread that was suppose to be civil and let people voice their opinion freely without being judged. you are really not trolling me as much as spoiling it for the others who come here now :/
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Fair enough, if your intentions are genuine than it is not my style to keep messing around.
But could we please agree that it is acceptable to explain why a plant has become your nemesis, even if it's a drug related story?
As I said before...starting a thread does not mean you own that thread and that everybody has to abide to your willing.

That said, hops is definitely one of the evil whims of nature. :)
 
I have an aversion to magic beans. I plugged a couple of them once, mistaking them for pills, and ended up above the clouds with a beanstalk up my ass.
 
Matsuo Munefusa. said:
I assure you if I intended to insult you I would not use this phrase. It sounds honestly like a phrase somebody that can barely speak english would create.
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are you born in england by any chance ?

anyway, obviously if you have any ability to comprehend what i wrote, you will see it wasnt a direct quote. so please, try again. ;)
 
delta_9 said:
Trust me I'm not all that positive. I have my bad days just like everyone else.

But If pushed I suppose I could name a plant that I dislike, even if the reason is a silly one.
As I dislike alcohol and it's effects I guess I would say hops, are they are (arguably) the main ingredient in brewing beer. Yes I know there are no hops in other alcoholic beverages like wine and spirits, but I quite like grapes(wine) and spirits can be made from just about any kind of grain anyway, so I suppose hops will have to do.
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hmm i read hops are closely related to marijuana. maybe it explains why i used to love smoking weed and drink beer %)

anyway, hops are said to be good for you. and i used to read they can be sedative but to this day no conclusive proof of such thing since they are always mixed with other herbs, or in highly extracted doses poured in beer.

so you dont drink any alcohol ? i know most marijuana users seem to pick on alcohol a lot as the worse drug that should be illegal and weed should be legal. but i think both of them should be free to buy legally and i dont accuse either of being the worse because they can both be pretty bad for you in excess.
 
I agree with hops. Hops. Hops contain potent phytoestrogens, chemicals that have estrogenic (loss of sex drive, loss of muscle mass, feminizing, ie "bitch tits") effects on the male body). I don't know how much hoppy beer you need to drink to experience the estrogenic effects, but it's something I try to stay away from. Even in smaller doses, hoppy beer gives me a migraine.
 
ebola? said:
Poison oak--this rash has persisted for over a month.

ebola
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i have a cure that worked for me and others ebola .

you know it's the oils that do you in . it can be spread by scratching and then the rash has spread .

the cure is fells naptha soap . stand in the shower and lather it really thick. then just stand there for a quarter hour . then rinse . no more poison oak oils on your hide .

another improbable treatment for the itch is to spray right guard deodorant on the affected area . for some reason this stops the itch for a good quarter hour .

i wish you well ebola . i got it by falling down drunk on a steep deer trail. landed in a patch and that was that. luckily the girl that i was seeing at the time had dealt with it time and time again as her kids all had it at one time or another .
 
^^^^^^
IMO, while both cause problems in excess, cannabis is safer to take in excess. The worst I've seen, really, is over-complacence and inactivity. Anyway...
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hobhead said:
i have a cure that worked for me and others ebola.
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While you give good suggestions below, some of your factual information is incorrect (having had roughly 7 cases of poison oak in my life, I now know quite well :P).

you know it's the oils that do you in . it can be spread by scratching and then the rash has spread.
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Specifically, the allergic reaction is to urishiols. These oils can spread via body to body contact within the first few hours after exposure, but this window falls BEFORE the rash manifests. Because there is a delay between exposure and appearance of symptoms, it can SEEM like one is spreading the rash by picking up oils from scratching, but one does not. The rash itself also by far out-endures catabolism of urishiol, reflecting an auto-immune feedback loop.

the cure is fells naptha soap . stand in the shower and lather it really thick. then just stand there for a quarter hour . then rinse . no more poison oak oils on your hide .
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There is a specific soap, Technu (or is it Tenchu? :P), that is designed for removal of Urishiol. It's best used as a preventative measure, right after hiking, but it also helps a little after the rash has appeared. One also only need let it sit on the skin for 2 minutes.

another improbable treatment for the itch is to spray right guard deodorant on the affected area . for some reason this stops the itch for a good quarter hour .
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This is interesting. Deodorants work, essentially, by clogging up the skin's pores (with aluminum zirconates or similar compounds). I wonder what the mechanism for defusing itching might be...

i wish you well ebola . i got it by falling down drunk on a steep deer trail. landed in a patch and that was that. luckily the girl that i was seeing at the time had dealt with it time and time again as her kids all had it at one time or another .
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Thanks. An IM shot of a heavy-duty cortico-steroid worked, but the rash is STILL here after well over a month. My suggestion, if you contract another case, is to go to the doctor and get a topical cortico-steroid. Shit works as well as prednisone, but w/o central side-effects--you won't be itching w/in 24 hrs.

You're in Western Oregon, right? I thought this the worst area for poison oak in the country until I moved to the Bay Area. :P

ebola
 
socko said:
I agree with hops. Hops. Hops contain potent phytoestrogens, chemicals that have estrogenic (loss of sex drive, loss of muscle mass, feminizing, ie "bitch tits") effects on the male body). I don't know how much hoppy beer you need to drink to experience the estrogenic effects, but it's something I try to stay away from. Even in smaller doses, hoppy beer gives me a migraine.
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thats a common symptom of gluten sensitivity. you should give gluten-free beer a shot and see if it makes a difference
 
ebola said: ''While you give good suggestions below, some of your factual information is incorrect (having had roughly 7 cases of poison oak in my life, I now know quite well :P).''

holy shit man thats gotta be a record. even when i was setting chokers in a lumber camp i never knew any one that got it that many times . choker men roll around in the shit while trying to get the nubbin end under a log.

ebola you are cursed by the plant family . down on the south coast of oregon there is a stretch of appx. 40 miles where gorse (which will tear the hide off you) can take over everything .hard, hard to kill and only shading it out is effective .
 
dcraver877 said:
thats a common symptom of gluten sensitivity. you should give gluten-free beer a shot and see if it makes a difference
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I've never tried gluten free beer, but beer with little or no hops makes a difference. I'm also skeptical on the gluten theory because I can eat a loaf of bread and have no reaction. A friend who has celiac disease eats just one bite of that bread and she gets a reaction within 1/2 hour -- her stomach swells up to the size of a basketball and she feels very sick.
 
if you don't get a reaction to bread, then yea, your probably right that gluten isn't a problem. actually, its probably just the alcohol itself or a particular type of grain possibly barley, hops, or sorghum.
 
ebola? said:
^^^^^^
IMO, while both cause problems in excess, cannabis is safer to take in excess. The worst I've seen, really, is over-complacence and inactivity. Anyway...
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wrong. cannabis is pretty bad in excess health wise.
 
Cannabis fucks with your immune system.
This either causes cancer or increases the chance of (opportunistic) infection.
Either way, excess fiddling with immunomodulating substances is always bad for your health.

And then we're not even considering that people that use cannabis every day often become total fucking retards (mental health).
 
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