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What's Good on European and African TV v. Walking the Dead

You were right ColtDan i didnt much like the ending of Dexter. Not too sure about the conviningness of Dr Vogel either, she some how seemed to be a quite wooden and plastic character, compared to all the other characters, who all seemed very real.

warning: complete Dexter spoilers

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But I was impressed with how they kept the tension ratched up very high throughout the last 3 episodes in particular, in the not knowing how everything was going to turn out and the multiple unpredictable surprise element plot twists thrown in too. Of all the possible endings they could have come up with this was the worst. Debra didnt deserve that fate. It seems that the stars of the best modern era series do not ever get to have happy endings.


Also been watching old episodes of Jack Dee's Lead Balloon for some light relief. It's really laugh out loud funny stuff.
 
eSemi decent docu on bbc4 on the last 100 yrs of abstract art
altho i think we've seen/heard the best bits already theologywise, and the remaining 75 yrs is just gonna bore the bejesus out of me.

its starting to anyway
 
That's probably just what I was coming in to recommend, Mz Marmz (ya bleedin' philistine :p;)<3).

The Rules of Abstract Art

Really not as dry as it sounds but I do accept that Mathew Collins is a bit of an acquired taste and could be a dealbreaker for some. I'm a bit of a fan but there's no doubt his presenting style could just as easily be taken as being horribly wanky even by art historian standards.

If you approve of (or at least can put up with) Mr Collins then the actual programme was really good I thought. It is kinda basic but I do believe that is the point - bit of a primer on what it is about abstract art that makes it art and not just scribbles, daubs, blobs and blocks that "could be done by a two year old" (as tends to be the standard criticism). Anybody who would tend to make that standard criticism is precisely who "should" be watching this if they have any interest or desire to gain a lil insight into the processes and 'meanings' (bit of an iffy word when it comes to abstraction but will suffice in general terms). Want to know how anybody can claim a square (or even several squares) counts as art and/or how it fits into the wider history of art and... history? This would be a good starting point.

I particularly like the interview with the female artist quite early on whose name I forget but was painting all in black and white - she describes my own (amateur, personal and occasional at best) approach, technique and feeling about what I will call the creative process cos this is a post about a documentary on abstract art by Matthew Collins so wankiness is to be expected.
 
Operation Stonehenge - What Lies Beneath - second part linkied within linky... for the next few days anyway due to being an iPlayer linky.

Best doc on Stonehenge there's yet been and as close to a final word on the subject as we're likely to see any time soon. Properly educational cos is almost all new information and is explained in a way that makes it easy to put together. Starts with the very earliest of known activity in that place (waaaaaaay back in the Mesolithic getting on for 10000 years ago) with the first simple structure and also with perfectly reasonable reasons why that particular place gained perceived importance so early on and has retained it since. Then goes through several thousand years of changes - all backed up with actual evidence which makes a pleasing change for Stonehengey stuffs - til the site (apparently) fell out of regular usage. Absolutely fascinating stuff and well worth a couple hours of anybody's time.
 
Cheers for that Shambles, that'll definately be on top of my viewing list for this evening.

I cant believe im about to admit this but i watched Piers Morgan last night. :o:sus:: But only because he was interviewing Bear Grylls. :D I normally loathe Piers Fucking Morgan, but the hour long Bear Grylls interview was interesting, and worth a watch for any others who may be interested in Bear Grylls. ITV probably have their own version of iplayer or it may be repeated on ITV2 or something, if not.
 
Eveleivibe said:
Who is Bear Grylls???
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He's a famous English outdoors 'survivalist', adventurer, and TV presenter. He was in the SAS and he was the youngest British person to conquer Everest. His shows ' Man Vs Wild' / 'Born Survivor' are watched in 200 countries. He gets dropped off in various wildernesses all over the world with nothing more than a few basic supplies in a ruck-sack, a knife, and a water bottle, and a flint stone for making fires. He shows how to survive off the land and how to get rescued, and just as importantly he shows what not to do. He is famous for doing apparently rather mad and weird things like drinking his own piss, squeezing the water out of elephant shit or the contents of a camels stomach to drink, climbing inside a dead camel carcass to sleep in the desert, and jumping off very high cliffs, deliberately falling through the ice in glacial rivers, so he can demonstrate how to get out of the ice, and how to warm again (rolling in the snow and doing naked press-ups and burpees lol, while he waits for his fire to get going to dry out his clothes and prevent hypothermia), also using his own fist as bait for viscious and huge catfish that shredded his hand; he seems to be one of those people you either love or hate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

I'll have to re-watch that Stonehenge thing. I tried to watch it last night, but i was wiped out from having to get up at 4am for work, the whole thing just went right over my dazed head and i barely took a word in. I could tell that the second episode in particular was full of very interesting and important new findings about just how significant and important Stonhenge was for those 'lost civilisations' of 4,500 years ago, and many generations to follow. I did learn that it was probably a competetive tribal structure, that it was was probaly a demonstration of great wealth and power, and it had such a draw that evidence that very high status people from as far away as Spain was found there; incredibly intricate gold trinkets and elaborate earthenware etc.

A major new 3 part BBC drama called The Driver is starting soon (Tuesday night). It stars David Morrisey (The Governor from TWD.) He's always excellent in BBC dramas, as he was/is in TWD, and there are some other familiar faces associated with quality BBC dramas in it too. It looks like it could be very very good juding by the trailer.

Peaky Blinders is also returning soon with a second series.
 
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^^^MDB,

wow sounds an interesting person. Those things seem extreme but if he's demonst rating survival I guess they have to be done - he soundalike an inspirational figure.

So, any interesting programmes been on that you've watched lately? Or are there any on the pipeline?

Evey
 
Just started watching Bojack Horseman recently. I believe it's on Netflix but I've just been watching it elsewhere. Anyone else watching it?

The cartoon art style just made me expect something like Family Guy or American Dad, humorous but maybe a little *too* silly for what I wanted at the time - but I'm liking it a whole lot, it's funny as hell but has its moments of being fairly deep too (while still having you stifle a great big chuckle of course). :D

Speaking of which any of you see any good funny shows lately? I could do with getting my laugh on a little more, good for the soul! ;)
 
Eveleivibe said:
^^^MDB,

wow sounds an interesting person. Those things seem extreme but if he's demonst rating survival I guess they have to be done - he soundalike an inspirational figure.

So, any interesting programmes been on that you've watched lately? Or are there any on the pipeline?

Evey
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yeah check out bear grylls on you tube if you are interested there's probably thousands of his clips on there.

My post may have been a bit tl; dr, so to repeat;

A major new 3 part BBC drama called The Driver is starting soon (Tuesday night). It stars David Morrisey (The Governor from TWD.) He's always excellent in BBC dramas, as he was/is in TWD, and there are some other familiar faces associated with quality BBC dramas in it too. It looks like it could be very very good juding by the trailer. I haven't a clue what it's going to be about but it looks like its going to be "intense" whatever its all about.

Peaky Blinders is also returning soon with a second series. The first series was very good. The Peaky Blinders were a criminal gang based in Birmingham, England, in the late 19th century and, to a lesser extent, in the early 20th century. They were one of the urban youth gangs in the era, which were among the earliest of modern street subcultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaky_Blinders

It feels more like a film than a TV series, it's properly stylized and looks fucking great.

Also Homeland season 3 will be available soon on More4.

All I need now is the next season of The Walking Dead, and then I'd be sorted for TV viewing for the forseeable.

JG: if you're looking for laughs, Have I Got News For You returns shortly, for it's 48th series if wiki is correct. I thought it was more than that. Anyway such a large number of series is surely a testimony to how good and popular the show is, Paul Merton rarely fails to make me laugh and Im a miserable bastard, and Ian Hislop is so scathing about everything and everyone.
 
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Ahhh thank you, MDB. I've seen that expression on threads often but never understood it n was kinda scared to ask as usually I receive a load of sarcastic remarks about using Google. Not this this is a forum at all where people ask questions as a way of engaging conversation. Thanks very much for just answering without any of that. Appreciated.

Sorry I've gone off topic.

Back on, Who watched Dowton Abbey? I fkn forgot to record it - gutted! And who watched x factor????

Evey
 
The Driver on Tuesday night was decent. Good acting and beleivable characters all round. David Morrisey is great as allways, he's so far from the psycopathic ruthless Walking Dead Governor in this it shows he can play 'bad guys' and 'god guys' with equal ease. It started off with a tense and quite spectacular police car chase, by British standards, which certainly got my full attention right from the start.

It's also filmed in Manchester so that adds an extra bit of interest to me too, but as so often with this sort of thing, they seem to have delibarately chosen all the ugliest and bleakest streets and buildings to use as the backdrop. There are some aesthetically pleasing areas and buildinggs in Manchester if uou look hard enough. It also suffers a bit for from seeming to be a very old and familair plot line, at least in the pilot episode, one which has been done time and time again, although if it's done well that neednt necessarily put anyone off, and perhaps there will be a twist in this series over the next couple of episodes. Somone should have told the script writers that not all Mancunians are robbing puking pissing drinks (and that was the girls!!) and despicable in their treatment of taxi drivers. They dont use the word "knobhead" 15 times every sentence either, and ive never heard anyone apart from Liam Gallagher call their brother "our kid".

Apart from all that its very very watchable. David Morrisey is a very sympathetic character. It remains to be seen whether everything will end in complete disaster for him, or if he'll have a slice of luck/ or do some clever thinking. He's a 40 year old having a mid life crisis, life was getting boring for him, so he's spiced things up.

Did anyone else watch it? What did you think about it?
 
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The Driver on Tuesday night was decent.... Did anyone else watch it? What did you think about it?
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I've got it recorded, so I'll be watching it soon. I will let you know what I think! :)

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the first season of Orange is the New Black on Netflix at the moment. Quite entertaining drama based on a woman's prison. It even makes a passing reference to Oz, another prison drama that is a little more gritty that I am planning on watching at some point.

Anyone seen Oz?
 
Orange is the new black is decent, finished season 2 a few months ago, and yeah seen Oz, only the first season though
 
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