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10mg Diazepam
5g Phenibut
20g Muang Dang Kratom
Few cigs and nicotine gum
and...waiting on 240mg of codeine as I'm doing a CWE (probably only take 120mg or so and split the dose)
 
hideout said:
oh wow thanks a ton will have a google search or i message you? my name is ferdinand / hideout … really weird how small the world is i even though wow i am so junkie nerdy that i am the only one from germany or at least south germany here but nerver the less thanks again to all of you guys and girls and specials now in this thread for the quick help and feedback what a nice community here cool better then eve rave

liebe grüße ferdinand
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Du bist nicht allein 😜
 
30-40 mg addy (I actually am diagnosed, but my blood pressure is just barely into the high range so my psych will only give me qelbree or straterra and I'm having to source the real stuff on my own), 300 mg pseudoindoxyl, cold brew coffee as needed (up to 300 mg caffeine).

Really trying to cut back on the pseudo, though. It almost got criminalized in my state, plus I really don't like physical dependency. I had a withdrawal seizures 2 years ago and have stayed clear of alcohol and benzos since (both of which I'd been abusing hard for months before I tried to go cold turkey), but imagine if you could get oxy or whatever your personal poison is over the counter at every head shop and half the gas stations in town... Part of me was really glad that the pseudo was getting taken off the shelves. I had my stockpile for my taper (plus some gabapentin for sleep and potential seizure activity) after the supposed enforcement date and was like, "it's not gonna be fun, but I'm spending wayyyyy to much money on this shit and just getting more and more hooked, so thank God they're getting rid of it!" Instead the bill fell through at the last moment and I'm considering starting to sell my baseball card collection to pay for my habit... Not what I'm going for in this whole "clean from most shit and trying to rebuild my life" thing that I'm working on. Starting my MBA in August and not looking forward to balancing school with addiction either...
 
BK38 said:
I think we have led very different lives and that's ok, in my experience, those that I know that use methamphetamine (regardless of ROA) almost always end up abusing it (many of them became addicted too - I include myself in that number - 12 years clean now though). We can certainly have different perspectives on methamphetamine use. It may have been a bit "goofy" of me to speak in massive generalizations and let me be clear, I did not and am not calling you a twat, it just gave me that sense. I know that was not your intention and perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully.

I think what you said struck a nerve with me as someone who has had massive negative reprecussions as a result of methamphetamine use (which spiralled into abuse). I have seen too many good people taken down by the drug. Perhaps I need to examine my own personal bias.

With that said, at least anecdotally, I have met maybe a small handful of people that consume meth orally in the manner that you describe (with approximated, tirtrated doses consumed in a relatively responsible way). Again, this may simply come down to the people we know, geography, local markets, drug culture etc. I definitely agree that pressed addies etc are a thing and that a lot of people use them in lieu of prescribed amphetamines due to cost, availability etc.

"The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes" - I think this statement is what I take issue with most in terms of your beliefs regading methamphetamine. The average meth user I know absolutely uses the molecule for hedonistic rushes.

I apologize for coming at you a little sideways. On reflection, I think I was being a bit of a twat; you did nothing to derserve any kind of ire. Thank you for taking the time to write about your perspective; you are obviously highly intelligent and I genuinely appreciate your contributions to BL.
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I appreciate us peacefully coming to a point of mutual understanding dude, you sound like a really good person fr. Sociality's off the charts and I look up to that heavily, it's far too rare for being such a genuinely admirable characteristic to be able to communicate and reach points of mutual understanding like this.

I'm really glad that you grew past the addictivity issues you were facing, and I apologize if the word "goofy" came off as overly aggressive or offensive, I think that I certainly could've worded it better. I've seen many people start with meth and the reason I tend to view meth as not being the typical endpoint for people who pursue euphoria is that everybody I know who started down that path ended up leaning far more into the use of vaporizing freebase cocaine or cathinones, as they found the euphoria greater. I also came up in a community where meth was treated with more uh, idk if I'd say "respect" but there was this widespread sentiment of "Hey everybody, this shit really ruined a past generation so nowadays respect the dangers of mistreating this molecule", whereas crack and cathinones were so new to my community, there was little in the way of cultural guardrails that kept people from developing quite serious problems with them.

I was specifically growing up in a town of just under 10k in coastal Maine, and our drug culture is genuinely bizarre, the more I reflect on it the stranger it seems. Nearly a complete lack of empathogens or dissociatives (outside of salvia and DXM), little to almost no noticeable use of psychedelics, opioids died out heavily during the fent era in Maine but not completely. Never in my entire life though have I met so many people who are genuinely passionate about and who are frequent users of synthetic cannabinoids, that place is like Spice Central man. A man smoked a bit too much and fell through my bedroom window into bed with me once hahaha.

I see why you would take trouble with the "The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes", I suspect that you hit the nail right on the head when you mention that it likely comes down to differences in location/cultural things/subjective experiences. Where I grew up there was a problem with people twirling the pipe in one hand and beating their meat with the other in generations past, but it sort of died out after it was viewed as something scary enough to be worth being very careful with, as I mentioned earlier it pushed those pursuing hedonism towards crack and cathinones which, man, I'm not sure which is better, chasing rushes with ice or chasing rushes with crack/cathinones.

I appreciate your contributions here too dude, we're all chipping in on trying to build a publicly accessible database of personal experiences surrounding drug use and how it interfaces with society around us, and the more that conversations like these occur and the more of a written record we can leave via this website, hopefully it has an increasingly positive impact on future readers who are looking to sum up a variety of subjective experiences.
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Still then I don't think anyone would argue that those using them recreationally (that word itself irritates me every time) regularly end up with a ton of issues. Also frankly speaking I don't see any medical reason for using meth. At least scoring better at uni or something - if that truly works which I doubt in most cases - is not one I'd count.
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Yeah, I agree that the overuse when treating it more as a toy than a tool almost always ends poorly. As far as medical reasons for methamphetamine, I think that maybe there are medical uses for dextroamphetamine, but if I had access to lisdexamphetamine I would simply put down the ice because I find it far superior, and it appears to have lower toxicity relative to methamphetamine. I just can't afford it, or Ritalin where I am, and lisdexamphetamine as well as methylphenidate are two things I prefer way over meth personally, probably just quirks of neurochemistry or whatever.
BK38 said:
10mg Diazepam
5g Phenibut
20g Muang Dang Kratom
Few cigs and nicotine gum
and...waiting on 240mg of codeine as I'm doing a CWE (probably only take 120mg or so and split the dose)
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This mixture sounds absolutely sublime, kratom and phenibut have a really beautiful and unique synergy in my personal experience, does the combo also hit in a "wow that's just right" kind of way for you too?

OT: 150mg of Bupropion (XR), a ton of vaporized HHC/THC distillate, about 1.25mg of etizolam and a fat glass of ruby red grapefruit juice. Oh, also 4 300mg doses of gabapentin spaced apart by 30 minute intervals, with some lipids eaten just before each dose for optimal absorption in my fucked up mostly-missing GI tract haha.
 
Esperighanto said:
This mixture sounds absolutely sublime, kratom and phenibut have a really beautiful and unique synergy in my personal experience, does the combo also hit in a "wow that's just right" kind of way for you too?
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I'm really glad we came to an understanding too mate and I think we're both richer for it. In terms of the combination of Kratom and Phenibut, there's a great synergy indeed. Kratom also mixes well with Pregabalin and I find the pain-killing, anxiolytic properties are similar to the combination of Kratom and Phenibut.
 
150mg pregabaline
10mg Diazepam
15mg adderall
Food and Black Tea
a line of k, about to smoke a joint of light stuff

Third day without opioids, so far going well
Last night did a fair bit of k in top of a bit of pregab, had a semi k hole, thinking about many things in a cold manner like a view from far about everything. I like this state, but then I got nausea had to lie down for an hour then was fine. The afterglow is always nice, I like to take pregab at the end of k exeperience

Anyone has ever fucked with fentanyl ampoules before ? the 100mcg/2ml ones ? can you dry them or can you just swallow the liquid or something? just curious
 
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