What to do when all you care for is the RUSH?

[gethigh]

nitrous is a short acting dissociative and general anesthetic used in small dental procedures, i love the feeling

 

[center]

nitrous is by far the safest and will give you an orgasmic rush without the addiction. get a tank and invite a few friends over for some whompwhompwhomps , today! ™

 

[xxanxxtwo]

Most people agree with me that the Ketamine rush is much more powerful than the Heroin rush. But only in terms of sensation - the Heroin rush is still, IMO, much more euphoric. Just not as intense.

You say you can acquire veterinary vials. These are perfect for injecting!

I agree, the rush from IV ketamine is much more powerful than even the finest east coast (US), heroin. YMMV...

 

[phr]

Coke has a strong rush. And so does fent(and its analogs). Just sayin'

 

[jasoncrest]

I'm like you narutokun. All about the rush.
I don't care about the highs, all i want is the jump of blood in the syringe, the feeling of the fluid in my veins, and the rush.

I don't care bout the high that follow the rush.
Anyway, the drugs I use don't even get me high, they just give me a rush.
(Bupe just gives me a rush when I shoot it, same for Loprazolam(benzo), I don't feel any effects after the 10 seconds rush.....
And the main drug I use besides them is IV Coke; which is really the "rush-only" drug......

Ham-milton is right about antihistamines. They give a VERY STRONG rush.
They're completely useless alone though, you have to take them with some euphoric drugs; but then the rush can be really intense.....

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But chasing a rush makes you shoot IV 5 or 10 times daily....
That's why you have to be careful, take breaks, and try to find another interest....

And trying to get a rush in another way than through injection is a good idea too.
I know the needle-related rituals, etc... are important; but that's a dangerous fascination.

Nitrous is a good idea. I prefer Poppers though. They're really all about the rush too (poppers I mean).....

 

[MobiusDick]

Honestly?

A low dose of Ketamine IVed produces a powerful warm rush. Dose a bit higher though, and you'll get an even more powerful rush that would knock you out and shoot your mind out of this universe.

Why do I say this? I would honestly prefer to see you injecting Ketamine (hopefully pure) rather than injecting tons of fillers and binders.

Ideally though, it would be nice if you can moderate your use.

An iv shot of 200 mgs of ketamine is one of the most euphoric rushes of all drugs. It reminds me of cocaine without the speedy, noradrenergic effects. You even get the humming in your head that you get from a nice 250 mg shot of cocaine HCl; in fact it is more intense. But afterwards, you begin to lose all sensory input and become what I like to call a singularity of consciousness. You have no vision, hearing, touch, taste or smell, or any sense of anything other than your mind. This is not a dose to go clubbing on, and I would start off at 100 mgs to make sure you are looking for this.

I was the same way as far as the needle being the drug of choice. I would extract the drugs from pills and modify them when required. My doses of certain drugs got up so high that when I stopped, I had massive depression that almost lead to suicide. This happened with fentanyl. I had over 100 grams of it and I started off using about 10 mgs per shot (that is 10000 ugs if you compare it to the patches or pops) and I got quite high. But within a month of daily use, I got up to 150 mgs (yes mgs) six times a day. It was after this run that I realized that all opioids are not exchangeable across all parameters. No matter how much heroin or oxycodone or oxymorphone I did, it could not stop the severe suicidal depression I had. After about 2 weeks of the depression, I went into the lab (which is not something I do regularly as it is a quick way to lose your Schedule I through V Controlled Substances Researcher License.) and did a shot of about 40 mgs of fentanyl (all I could cover in the records.) Immediately, the depression I had for two weeks went away and I felt amazing. So I decided I had to wait it out. I waited for 3 more weeks and barely started to get a little better. It was after this that I realized that long term fentanyl abuse is a bad plan. My wife (who does not use) said I was talking to myself constantly and acting strange. I eventually got better from this run, but then my depression got much worse unrelated to my drug use, and I finally figured out a combination that worked for me. Since my depression totally went away, I have been able to resist that excitement of an iv shot. Eventually the bang cannot be sustained. I was using 5 cc syringes with 21 gauge needles to inject the amounts of liquid required.

Some of the other amazing drugs that nearly did me in were the cocaine analogues, particularly WIN 36,065-2 which is the best super cocaine in the world. Some of the other cocaine analogues that I loved were WIN 35,428, RTI-55, CFT and RTI-121. I often mixed 3, 4 or 5 drugs together in a shot. Unlike phenanthrene opiates like heroin HCl which cannot be mixed with barbiturates because they precipitate out, fentanyl HCl (you do not need the citrate to do this, although it will work) derivatives in a 95/5 % ratio of water to isopropyl and cetyl alcohol will allow the shot to be combined. Then mixing WIN 36,065-2 and the antihistamine PBZ (tripelenamine) gives your a four layer shot I like to call the Holy Quaternary. It comes in stages: you first taste the WIN 36,065-2 as it gets in the brain so quickly, and then you taste the alcohol in the Nembutal (pentobarbital solution), but not the pentobarbital. Then the PBZ comes in followed quickly by the fentanyl HCl. Finally, the Nembutal sneaks in there and wraps up the Holy Quaternary. Oh man do I miss that shot. It has been over 2 years since I did any of the cocaine analogues but one of the post docs in my lab is about to do some projects with some of the WIN and RTI series of drugs. I hope I can keep from taking it as I have only had my depression gone for 4 months and I do not want it to come back.

Other things that I loved shooting were 4-methylaminorex (aka U4ea), DMT or DET, 2CB, and MDMA or MDEA. I never thought iv methamphetamine compared to most of these other drugs because it was too speedy, and it left me jittery. The veterinary preparation Telazol, which is composed of Tiletamine and zolazepam, is pretty good, but it is hard to say if the tiletamine would be better without the zolazepam as both of these drugs are very difficult to get by themselves. Tiletamine is available through Sigma-Aldrich, but I have never heard of zolazepam other than in Telazol.

Chasing the needle is a hard habit to give up because there is no substitute for it. Nothing, not God, sex, rock and roll or anything else can ever compare to the high of the polyshot.

MobiusDick

 

[Carl Landrover]

It's not IV or anything, but I've gotten some really wicked rushes while running before. It usually involves a hill of some sort I've noticed or just making it across the street before the light turns in a crowded area or across the train tracks before a train comes.

May seem corny and uncomparable to drugs, but it can actually be a great natural high and can sometimes produce a strong rush.

 

[wungchow]

via inhalation it takes roughly 7 seconds for the substance to reach your brain.

IVing is a little bit shorter, typically under 5 seconds.

if you want a crazy rush try N2O as was mentioned, or diethyl ether

 

[jasoncrest]

Damn MobiusDick, what you say is crazy and fascinating.
I would really be afraid if I had access to all these drugs, cocaine super-potent analogues, fentanyls, etc.... I know I would go crazy and probably end up dead.

a four layer shot I like to call the Holy Quaternary. It comes in stages: you first taste the WIN 36,065-2 as it gets in the brain so quickly, and then you taste the alcohol in the Nembutal (pentobarbital solution), but not the pentobarbital. Then the PBZ comes in followed quickly by the fentanyl HCl. Finally, the Nembutal sneaks in there and wraps up the Holy Quaternary. Oh man do I miss that shot.

The Holy Quaternary? Damn that's a great name!!
I used to shoot a combination of 4 drugs (Bupe, Loprazolam, Promethazine, Clonidine), and the rush was SO intense; but the only good name I found was a "quatuor"... I would say "I'm gonna prepare a quatuor"...
Now I'll say "holy quaternary", it sounds so much better!!!!!

Now I don't have Clonidine anymore, and only shoot Bupe+Loprazolam+Diphenhydramine, do you think I could call it the Holy Tertiary???

Chasing the needle is a hard habit to give up because there is no substitute for it. Nothing, not God, sex, rock and roll or anything else can ever compare to the high of the polyshot.

Back to the topic (the Rush being the ultimate purpose and enjoyment of drug use), "polyshots" as you say are definitely the way to achieve the strongest rushes.

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ Holy Trinity!


p.s. love the name "polyshots" LOL

 

[phr]

Personally, the rush was just a bonus to a great high.

But I've grown to hate everything other than (select) opiates.


Fascinating stuff, Mobius.

 

[narutokun]

Now quit all this crap about how wondeful i.v. is OK get it moved please narutokun ( as requested previously!!! or I shall take your rigs & drugs & give them to a tramp!

I have no idea what your last sentence means, B9.

Me neither.

 

[narutokun]

To mobius: I'm glad you're over that fentanyl crazyness, dosing it in the order of grams/day is something that really freaks me out! I got curious, where does all that phenyltropane synthetising come from? Do you have the government's approval for synthetising it for research purposes or do you do it illegaly on your lab? Or are you a Sigma-Aldrich employee? I'm sure messing around with cocaine analogues is pretty much fun I wish I could too! I mean you surely listed some stuff that isn't very common there. Can you tell us more about your 4-methylaminorex? I always wondered what it is like.

An iv shot of 200 mgs of ketamine is one of the most euphoric rushes of all drugs.

I bet that for me with no K tolerance that would knock me out lol

 

[narutokun]

I'm like you narutokun. All about the rush.
I don't care about the highs, all i want is the jump of blood in the syringe, the feeling of the fluid in my veins, and the rush.

I don't care bout the high that follow the rush.

Nitrous is a good idea. I prefer Poppers though. They're really all about the rush too (poppers I mean).....

I'm glad to know I'm not the only crazy bitch that feels that way lol, I didn't mean that the follow up high doesn't mean anything to me, it does. I really care much more for the rush though. What are poppers jc?

 

[Ham-milton]

As I mentioned to jasoncrest earlier today,

does anyone else notice unique similarities between Mobius Dick and a Egyptophile (fantastical access to ultra rare designer analogues) who's no longer with us?

 

[Jamshyd]

Thanks for sharing MD, but I need to emphasize that 200mg of Ketamine IV is WAY WAY WAY too much!! I promise you that such a dose in a non-tolerant user will result in instant blackout and waking up an hour later, very nauseaus, disoriented, and probably cross-eyed.

I've been using Ketamine for several years now, and 110mg IV is plenty for me.

NK: Poppers are alkyl (typically isobutyl, traditionally amyl) nitrites.

 

[Ham-milton]

I had isobutyl nitrite, and I sure as hell wouldn't compare it to any other drug's rush.

Hell, you get a better "rush" taking hydrocodone orally.

The feeling of your veins dilating and your heart racing really isn't enjoyable unless you're fucking your bitch and hammering away at her right as you come. Then it's pretty good.

that was awfully graphic... omg, lol

 

[Nwalmaer]

Hey nk

I would deffinatly agree with the suggetion of trying nitrous

It is very much a rush of a feeling they way it comes on.

Very easy to obtain being legal more or less (trip to the local kitchenwares shop)

Fairly safe stuff too

If you interested a simple google search will reveal all the sources you need for n20 but i say no more there

Or


DMT
DMT is a rush alrite :O

 

[Ham-milton]

I don't think I'd suggest DMT. It's definitely a rush, but it's awfully different than the stims and depressants he uses.

N2O is a bit of a stretch, but worth trying, but DMT is less of a stretch in terms of a rush, but after that initial flash a lot of stuff can go on.

DMT by IV or smoked is one hell of a trip, but I can't suggest that as a replacement to pills for someone just looking for a rush multiple times a day.

A tolerance will develop to the DMT really quickly, for one. And for two, constant use of DMT is a really good way to end up with HPPD and hardcore flashbacks.

There's just too much risk of long term 'damage' and short term freakouts.

Edit: There's another obvious option I didn't consider, though. DMT could be used as one in a group of drugs, not as the sole replacement. I don't have evidence, but I'm sure it's gotta be safer to have 5 to 10 drugs on rotation than 1 or 2 in constant use.

Does anyone else agree?

Also, I think N2O is probably a decent substitute, but I'm afraid that for someone as prone to addiction as he obviously is (sorry to speak about you NK as if you're not reading this), nitrous may be too prone to causing compulsive use. I've often purchased a set of 72 whippets to use over a month or two and be surrounded by a bunch of clinking mini rolling pins not even 48 hours later.

 

[narutokun]

^I wouldn't waste dmt just in order just to get a rush, getting pure dmt crystals is hard enough around here and expensive, my best bet is probably iv K really

NK: Poppers are alkyl (typically isobutyl, traditionally amyl) nitrites.

Oh ok thanks jam