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What kind of shape is your body in?

Also, to flip things, if a low carb diet is for you - there are evidence for this approach on Google, along with tips on the best ways of going about doing so. I don't agree with those approaches so I'm not including them. I wish you all the best with your weight loss all the same, different strokes for different folks as they say :)

EDIT; Come to think about it, the Herbalife was a low carb diet, and combined with subs - was the worst thing I've EVER done. I'm not one for diets, never have been - but as Suboxone really slowed my metabolism and stopped me losing weight I became desperate.... the worst mistake I made in my life. As I've some left I'll use it for convenience but never again will I use it.

Evey
 
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gayorstraight said:
^I'm just talking from my own experience.
There's plenty of proof that low carb diets work, even if it just the fact that your appetite is naturally suppressed.
Read more on it, try it.
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They work because you're removing calories. Carb based food like pastas, breads and cereals can be and often are high calorie, but at the same time you're removing vital short term energy sources. It's an ineffective way of losing weight and, like the vast majority of diets, are likely to see followers just put the weight straight back on when coming off the diet.

Balancing your nutrition is the key alongside healthy cardiovascular exercise. I'm not saying you can't lose weight by whatever form of diet you choose to take, but anything which doesn't preach a balanced and considered diet is playing into peoples desire to lose weight whilst still eating what they want to. I'm a fitness freak with a tailored diet, this is my bread and butter. General rule for most food unless it's truly nutritionally shite is to reduce not remove.
 
RLP said:
Balancing your nutrition is the key alongside healthy cardiovascular exercise. I'm not saying you can't lose weight by whatever form of diet you choose to take, but anything which doesn't preach a balanced and considered diet is playing into peoples desire to lose weight whilst still eating what they want to. I'm a fitness freak with a tailored diet, this is my bread and butter. General rule for most food unless it's truly nutritionally shite is to reduce not remove.
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This really.
 
RLP said:
They work because you're removing calories. Carb based food like pastas, breads and cereals can be and often are high calorie, but at the same time you're removing vital short term energy sources. It's an ineffective way of losing weight and, like the vast majority of diets, are likely to see followers just put the weight straight back on when coming off the diet.

Balancing your nutrition is the key alongside healthy cardiovascular exercise. I'm not saying you can't lose weight by whatever form of diet you choose to take, but anything which doesn't preach a balanced and considered diet is playing into peoples desire to lose weight whilst still eating what they want to. I'm a fitness freak with a tailored diet, this is my bread and butter. General rule for most food unless it's truly nutritionally shite is to reduce not remove.
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*LIKE* True.... I also feel that when I exercise, though I become hungrier due to increase in metabolism, I tend to crave less sweet foods - probably due to the fact I get the endorphin release from exercise and no longer need the endorphins that say, chocolate helps release.

I had a real passion for all of this stuff, used to Google stuff and watch everything on fitness/diet/ weight management. I miss all that and need to find the passion for it all again.
Opiates fried it away lol n had to quit masters due to it all - still I have a post grad certificate and can pick it up again sometime - if they buy all the shit about suboxone frying my brain cells away that is hahahahaha (ya gotta life at life, eh or it's take you down and leave you at the end of the slide with no way back up).

Evey
 
ColtDan said:
Good, cos the other day you were saying you're always obsessing over not being thin enough, which is a bit silly cos you're as sexy as fuck
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Yeah, well I do obsess about that, it's just a matter of trying to shut up my mind when it goes there hah. For me it's more a worry over putting on any kind of weight at all.
Cheers though :) x

darkinthepark said:
I don't think all girls really think they are fat per say, they just say it fishing for compliments and it works.
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No offense mate but that's complete bullshit. Of course some girls do that (and quite frankly I've met a number of guys who do as well) but to think that's necessarily the vast majority is just uninformed. You'd be surprised the number of women, especially around my age, who've had an eating disorder in the past few years and aren't necessarily past the body image issues that created yet.

Eveleivibe said:
wow a load of convo I've missed :)

Pagey - Dan and I don't agree on a lot but I agree here, you're stunning I'm well jealous lol. You look good as you are but I don it's easier said to someone; we all don't see ourselves the way in that's do and in my case, when people say nice things about how I look, I often tend to think they're taking the mick and make a joke out of it lol. You really are good looking and it's nice to see you say you're happy with yourself.

One of my friends had an eating disorder and it was upsetting to see, knowing there was nothing I could do. She was good looking and I told her but she couldn't see this, and although I empathic and understand to a point I can't truly understand, if that makes sense. We had to cut all ties with one another as we were basically not helping one another but I wish her well and that she gets better some day.
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Aw, well I hope she's doing better now :\ and I kinda wish more people had the same perspective as you and understood that they can't really understand what it's like to have an eating disorder unless they've been through the exact same one...and they shouldn't pretend to understand. The number of people who came up to me when I was anorexic and just said stuff like 'why don't you just eat' or 'you know you look horrible' was pretty shocking. Like wtf is that meant to accomplish?
Although I do believe that (if you don't have an eating disorder impairing your judgement to that point) it's healthy sometimes to literally just tell yourself you're going to make yourself believe wht others tell you, whether it be about your appearance or something else, and simply not listen to what you think at that precise moment. I'm saying that to you specifically Evey ;)
 
From what I've learnt of people with EDs it's a lot more complex than simply about food n saying to someone "you look horrible" is just reaffirming to the person negative self-image. There was a plot on Emmerdale late where a lady called Fraya, had an ED, she was getting pressure from all angles and said a lot of stuff that my friend said.

My friend had gone through a lot, was abused for many years n always had a great sense of humour. I knew it was a front n a way of her supressing her emotions. She actually joked that she had gone through the abuse, yet her family members weren't dealing with n suffered depression. It was very difficult watching her go from someone who had a full time job, her own flat, to total self-destruct mode. She'd self-harm extremely badly, had bulimia n was sectioned. She's now living in a house for people with mental health issues for two years n has been told not to cut as she was doing it so badly.

For a while the hospital weren't very nice to her because they diagnosed her as borderline personality disorder so when she 'd go periodically with ODs the paramedics would be really mean to her she contacted PALS n the diagnoses has now been changed to the depression n psychosis. But people should be mean to her even if she was PBD. Even if she had been attention seeking, there's a reason for it like a cry for help. People don't attention seek for no reason at all there's always a reason.

Anyway, Pagey, sorry I didn't know that you had had an ED n I hope nothing I said, offended you in anyways like saying I couldn't keep in touch with her. It wasn 't the ED it was that we were both in negative place. I had my codeine addictive, was taking large amounts of citralopram n she had her issues - rather than support each other we were just too close n just snapped at each other all the time. I was scared she was going to die just went into complete denial mode over it.

To see a close friend of over 10 years just self destruct n know they're killing them self n that there's nothing you can do to help them is soul destroying n terrifying.

Evey
 
Eveleivibe said:
From what I've learnt of people with EDs it's a lot more complex than simply about food n saying to someone "you look horrible" is just reaffirming to the person negative self-image.
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I can imagine that's true in some cases. It wasn't really true of my experience though. I loved people telling me I looked ill. Absolutely adored it. I still have a collection of pretty frightening selfies, some of which border on death camp snaps, and I used to obsessively look at them, trying to compare my body to them and inevitably finding fault. I think that's pretty common too.

Admittedly, my 'eating disorder' was a manifestation of other things (and a not uncommon manifestation of said things) and there was some extreme malignant narcissism underpinning everything, but an eating disorder it was.

Complex business.
 
My ex always used to say her ED was about control. She couldn't control most other things in her life, but she could control what she consumed and, well, if she wanted to starve herself, she bloody well could. Nothing whatsoever to do about looks or anything.

Bizarre, really.
 
Sammy G said:
Control is a major motivating factor for a lot of people, I'd wager.
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That's what it was about for me.

Being a girl with an eating disorder sucks, but being a boy with one REALLY sucks because society looks on it as being a female problem.
 
EDs entirely depend on the person though. Already Sammy and RLP's accounts are completely different, and I can add another experience since my ED was literally me just not noticing that I'd become a living skeleton...I just genuinely thought I was fat.
Pretty scary how those things work.
 
gayorstraight said:
^I'm just talking from my own experience.
There's plenty of proof that low carb diets work, even if it just the fact that your appetite is naturally suppressed.
Read more on it, try it.
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Yes they definitely work well. They are proven to lose weight, but through water loss. You need glucose (broken down carbs) as a pre-cursor to burn fat, you cannot burn off fat without carbs. The water loss that you're losing from your no-carb diet, you'll put straight back on.

Eveleivibe said:
The best way to lose weight and to maintain is the have a healthy balanced diet, omitting / increasing none of the important food groups such as protein and carbs. Every one of them are needed for weight management and for the body to be healthy.
Evey
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This is very good advice

RLP said:
They work because you're removing calories. Carb based food like pastas, breads and cereals can be and often are high calorie, but at the same time you're removing vital short term energy sources. It's an ineffective way of losing weight and, like the vast majority of diets, are likely to see followers just put the weight straight back on when coming off the diet.
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Carbs aren't particularly calorific, but the refined carbs (White bread, white rice) are high on the GI index, which causes the body to secrete high levels of insulin. Insulin is what converts food into fat. Low GI carbs is what a dieter should be consuming, they are an important pre-requisite to burning fat.


RLP said:
Balancing your nutrition is the key alongside healthy cardiovascular exercise.
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This
 
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raas_2012 said:
Yes they definitely work well. They are proven to lose weight, but through water loss. You need glucose (broken down carbs) as a pre-cursor to burn fat, you cannot burn off fat without carbs. The water loss that you're losing from your no-carb diet, you'll put straight back on.
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Your body makes it's own glucose from protein so, no, you don't need to eat any carbs at all.

Essential fats
Essential amino acids
No such thing as an essential glucose.

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