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What is the most addictive substance?

Erikmen said:
I think crack can make you reach rock bottom pretty fast. But the recovery is easier than heroin IME. Everyone is different, I have seen people who totally dislike opiates while others won't take downers, except for coming down from few sleepless nights.
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The bad thing about crack is that you never really reach "critical mass" where you've had enough. You just have to keep going and going and going and can't stop. But at least there's no physical withdrawals with crack unlike opiates or GABAergics.
 
Gratefully I never tried hard substances. In fact the only illegal one I ever dosed was marijuana. It made me suicidally depressed.

Still, with as easily as my mind n body acclimated to the opiate painkillers, I shudder to imagine what I may have gotten into had I ever messed with the Others....
 
^ That's good for you! I wish I never tried.

I don't like weed as much as I would have liked to. It makes me think too much and if it's not the right cannabis for me it also makes me anxious. I always insist hoping to enjoy the trip and relax as it has a potential of making my life way better. But I still would prefer to drink a glass of wine or two.

With crack, it's crazy you can stay all night long smoking and the satisfaction is always in the next dose. The few times I tried I figured it's the same as shooting coke, except that it lasts only a couple of minutes and like you said there is never a point where you will have enough of that. Most of the crack scenes I've been have lots of people who lost their families and home over few months of use.
 
Crack always amazes me, people always demonize meth, I used to sell ounces to doctors and lawyers, have never seen a functional crack addict. And heroin let me watch my best friend die, so that turned me away from that.
 
Yes Erik that's been my experience -- that is to say People I've met who got into crack had lost everything fast. And if they had an income (like disability or they live on a stipend) they had lost independence / control over their finances. Someone else will forever (?) Be in charge of these individuals money.

Sad.
I think crack must REALLY QUALIFY for that AA/NA adage,
"One is too many and a thousand never enuf".
 
I'm glad I'd had experience with meth and shooting coke, crack was very underwhelming for me. Was expecting this huge rush that never really happened so I just put it down after 3 or 4 hits
 
bptubbs said:
I hate weed lol, pretty close to your experience, potentiates my bipolar. Honestly heroin is the only one I've never fucked with.
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Yeah since my experience w weed was so horrendous, I can honestly say the only substance I've ever purposely used in a recreational sense was alcohol. It never became a problem, knock my head on wood.

My addition was painkillers. But I didn't use them for pleasure; I simply couldn't quit without help, once I no longer medically needed them. Damn that was a nasty CHANGE, in me. Becoming an actual Criminal because I needed my meds.
 
Are you sure the alcohol isn't a problem, knocking your head on wood isn't too healthy lol. I know the feeling, my first experience with opiates was at 15 with 6 broken ribs. Was hard to quit after I was healed
 
bptubbs said:
I'm glad I'd had experience with meth and shooting coke, crack was very underwhelming for me. Was expecting this huge rush that never really happened so I just put it down after 3 or 4 hits
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Maybe it wasn't crack or it could have been too cut (?)
I say it's like shooting coke because of the metallic noise and rapid rush, intense paranoia eventually makes you stop. It's pretty identical IME, although Coke lasts more and you get different sort of collateral issues.
 
No I never drink.
I used to, socially.
Instead of "knock on wood", I say "knock my head on wood", because I'm habitually clumsy. I drop things break things bump into things cut myself burn myself make messes with my food and trip over my cats constantly. Some of this is due to my worsening eyesight; some is due to worsening balance: both of these can be effects of the long term high dose gabapentin. So there's a shit ton of reasons I wanna get off that junk.

Yup yup yup yup
 
I feel ya lol, I'm a clutz, I'm a 20 year old guy my balance is shit anymore, trip over my own feet. I'm pretty doomed when it comes to balance lol
 
Oh Lordy all them Drunk conversations. Sometimes it's the goddam Gospel According to Luke n sometimes it's ***all drooly*** "i LOVE you man nnn yer my FUCKIN best friend mannnn. I got your FUCKING BACK MANNNNN" *** glugg glugg glugg
 
Lmao I ended up in a gas station at like 2 am once my buddy was driving. I stagger past the clerk almost fall over everything in the store, get a cup of old ass coffee, when I get to the counter the guy tries holding a conversation with me. No idea what possessed him to talk to me my buddy was pretty sober.
 
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