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What is the most addictive substance?

^True for me, if I know I won't be able to have nicotine for 8-9 hours it sucks hard, I can deal but I'll be twitchy, head-achy, grumpy as all hell, but I can deal. If I go to use my nicotine and have misplaced my vape or it malfunctions and I didin't bring back up it gets very stupid and ugly and loud very quickly.
Weed, I don't like running out, but once I do I crave it for a couple days but that's it other than the reasons I smoke pot in the first place being more present..
 
I've been through the gauntlet of heroin w/d a few times without much trouble (two weeks clean from it right now), but eventually I come back to it. So opiates have definitely been difficult for me. But benzodiazapines have been nearly impossible for me to kick. The longest I've made it after a really long period of use was probably 2-3 days, before it was unbearable and probably a bit hazardous, even after tapering. I can imagine a future without heroin, but there's an ever present feeling that I'll be on benzos for a very, very long time if not for the rest of my life.
 
Meth short term, riding those heights the first couple days makes its hard to forget anytime soon.

But weed is seemingly the hardest to quit for me. I dont even lie to myself anymore when i say im trying to stop, Ill say im having a 'break'. Because, who am i kidding, she aint goin anywhere long.
 
Meth dominates crack in a cage match. Meth is the shit and you can actually do things other than hit the pipe every 5 minutes like a deranged lab rat.

I smoked crack once or twice and never again, I don't like it.

I'm like JFK with the meth though, that's my motha fuckin vitamins bitch.
 
So you smoke it. How long does that last for you? 40 minutes - 1 hour?
 
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Most addicting would be coke for sure

A bag always turns into one run of a day of shooting up every ten to 15 minutes until it's all gone.

Then its crashin like the fuckin challenger shuttle
 
Erikmen said:
So you smoke it. How long does that last for you? 40 minutes - 1 hour?
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A couple good rips off the pipe will get someone with little to no tolerance high for hours. It usually lasts over an hour for me. (Initial dose/high; re-dosing leads to diminishing returns, of course) I don't like smoking that anymore...would much rather slam it *shrug

Meth is way better than crack: it's cheaper, stronger, and lasts longer. It can be snorted, smoked, swallowed or slammed with ease.
 
Slammed is an interesting word for shooting up. I didn't actually thought it lasted that longer. I'm pretty sure cracks leads the list of the worst 3 or five drugs ever. No pleasure out of it - just the desire to want more and more.

The fall is also pretty quick! I've always been into opiates, benzos. During my days people used to do Coke to get that sort of high. And that was because the Coke was good, not cut like today.
There was no meth nor MDMA. Different days.
 
It's hard to say..... Meth is much more compulsive for me. My brain craves it and I find myself puffing on the pipe all night.

But heroin & opies are my 1 true love.

The Meth is addictive because it's pleasurable and hits those neurological hot spots. He is addictive because you feel pain free and nothing bothers you but also because dopesickness is something that especially over time becomes all consuming and whatever it is your trying escape comes back 20x worse!
 
IV Heroin- But even more so the ever prominent "fentadope" in my hood or in other terms fentanyl-laced heroin. People are dropping like flies.
Oxymorphone- Ultra fucking potent opioid, like oxy and heroin had a perfect baby. Euphorically stimulating and pro-social rush that drifts into a better nod than heroin with MAD legs.
IV Dilaudid- The fucking "crack of opioids", heavy, warm, and madly euphoric rush, but almost no legs and one of the worst opioids to get hooked on other than fentanyl.
Alprazolam- It's been known to cause me to re-dose or take ridiculous dosages and the WD's are hell and tolerance/dependence builds fast as fuck.
IV Cocaine- Only high-grade, bellringer shit and I always end up fucking my arms up, pin-cushion style if my funds are correct.
MDPV/Mephedrone ("bath salts")- On top of the fucking world ready to conquer it and fuck everything and anything, then you come down and are about ready to tie a noose and hang it up because of the crushing depression, paranoia, confusion, and overall sleep-deprived psychosis.
a-PVP- Same as above, but not nearly as euphoric + more paranoia IME
Methamphetamine- Can hook you like a fish without even realizing it as you loose track of how many days you've been awake. Depletes the fuck out of your DA and is neurotoxic due to excessive release of dopamine. You run out and wake up one day to find your madly depressed, can't focus on shit, and could sleep forever.
MXE or K- Just because euphoric dissociatives/ACH's are my DOC. IV S-Ket can be just as hedonistic as fucking IV coke due to potent DRI properties, even causes the bellringer.
Methadone + BZD's- Methadone is so warm, sedating, and cozy and the nod is heavenly with a BZD (e.g. my favorite with the 'done, diazepam/Valium). Methadone is the worst opioid kick and the longest kick I've ever had the hell of going through.
 
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IV Heroin- But even more so the ever prominent "fentadope" in my hood or in other terms fentanyl-laced heroin. People are dropping like flies.
Oxymorphone- Ultra fucking potent opioid, like oxy and heroin had a perfect baby. Euphorically stimulating and pro-social rush that drifts into a better nod than heroin with MAD legs.
IV Dilaudid- The fucking "crack of opioids", heavy, warm, and madly euphoric rush, but almost no legs and one of the worst opioids to get hooked on other than fentanyl.
Alprazolam- It's been known to cause me to re-dose or take ridiculous dosages and the WD's are hell and tolerance/dependence builds fast as fuck.
IV Cocaine- Only high-grade, bellringer shit and I always end up fucking my arms up, pin-cushion style if my funds are correct.
MDPV/Mephedrone ("bath salts")- On top of the fucking world ready to conquer it and fuck everything and anything, then you come down and are about ready to tie a noose and hang it up because of the crushing depression, paranoia, confusion, and overall sleep-deprived psychosis.
a-PVP- Same as above, but not nearly as euphoric + more paranoia IME
Methamphetamine- Can hook you like a fish without even realizing it as you loose track of how many days you've been awake. Depletes the fuck out of your DA and is neurotoxic due to excessive release of dopamine. You run out and wake up one day to find your madly depressed, can't focus on shit, and could sleep forever.
MXE or K- Just because euphoric dissociatives/ACH's are my DOC. IV S-Ket can be just as hedonistic as fucking IV coke due to potent DRI properties, even causes the bellringer.
Methadone + BZD's- Methadone is so warm, sedating, and cozy and the nod is heavenly with a BZD (e.g. my favorite with the 'done, diazepam/Valium). Methadone is the worst opioid kick and the longest kick I've ever had the hell of going through.
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Gotta agree with this 100% except I havent done Mdpv or apvp
 
the_ketaman said:
It's hard to say..... Meth is much more compulsive for me. My brain craves it and I find myself puffing on the pipe all night.

But heroin & opies are my 1 true love.

The Meth is addictive because it's pleasurable and hits those neurological hot spots. He is addictive because you feel pain free and nothing bothers you but also because dopesickness is something that especially over time becomes all consuming and whatever it is your trying escape comes back 20x worse!
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I agree with you there are different types of worst. The loved ones and the those that you crave so much that life becomes meaningless at some point.

I hate the drugs that ruins the brain system, neurologically speaking. Those that can produce an endless comedown so hard that you need an additional hard drug to deal with it.

With opiates it's all about warmth and feeling well. Not really any problems coming down but you do get sick all the time, so you live for it.

So depending on your perspective of worst, it could be one or the other or both. One is about wanting and the other is about needing.
 
Opiates/Opiods

Felt like there were meat hooks on chains in my back that the poppy held.

I am by nature a very lazy person, that addiction had me out in the snow without a jacket in the darkest places, I remember in those moments feeling that I was not behind the wheel, like I was a witness behind my very eyes.

IME everything else is child's play compared to a heavy opiate addiction.
 
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I would say opana was the worst for me. I can shrug off heroin and not have any wds but rx drugs get me strung the fuck out.

I made the best choice in my life stopping going to the pain clinic. There ain't no treatment for opiate addiction and methadone is for life and well I don't marry a drug.

I feel like that shit ate up my soul but now it has come back with a passion and my lust for life is a raging hard on all day every day. Shagging strippers and I don't ever give any woman my money but they are generous as fuck.

Man I do not get why people question what I say about my sex life. I mean if someone asks what I am up to it is usually hanging out with chicks and hanging with the pimps and top d boys. This lifestyle aint no good for me but I got to just go find a better place to live. This place is fucking ghetto. There are like 3 crack houses in my neighborhood and like 10 within walking distance.

So sick of all the violence and people with guns acting a fool. I am packing my bags and just getting my affairs in order. I suppose I will take this chick with me cuz she makes good money dancing and well like our thing is good cuz we give each other our space and she gives me good head and is a good fuck. All 85 lbs of her ass is sexy as fuck and yeah she is in her mid 20s so straight prime.
 
Opiates/opioids are the only substances that has taken over my life completely since some years back, sure H is my favourite but anything that get's me well is worth it's weight in gold for me since the H scene here is very small and the legal consequences are huge compared to other opis. I have been physically dependent on benzos and also used speed IV weeks upon weeks back in the day but I can put those behind me once the worst withdrawal is over, I actually feel disgusted by those drugs. But opis is my true love and on my mind 247 no matter if I'm nodding out or dope sick or have been clean for a few months even, that shit consumes my mind all time. I'm sick of it but can't stop repeating the vicious cycle of using, getting sick, do whatever it takes to get well, crash everything else in life, try to recover/get locked up, repeat.
 
RC benzos, they fucked me over big time, I have nothing good to show for it only bad. I hate these pills all they do is keep me alive, no buzz, still anxious and in a shit load of financial trouble. I'm on a script now but it doesn't help at all I don't want to be an addict. It's exhausting actually.
 
RC benzos seem to be a bad way to self medicate due to seizure riskure from WD.

RC fent fucked me in the long run cuz I took the precautions but there was this one time and it almost ruined my life and killed me.

I draw a clear line where I feel the point between drug use and drug abuse gets crossed. If a drug truely makes your life better than it is a good thing in my book. If a drug makes you miserable and/or strung out its a bad thing with bad consquences.

You live and you learn. It is best to stay informed about what you take and know your source and always to a purity and test despite how reliable the source. I would take a bag of girl right back if it had lidocaine or such in it but I already ask the don't cut my shit especially with that so they respect that. I fuck with people who respect me and show respect where respect is due.

Most my plugs are usually people that I am friends with to some degree or their family. Best to stay with the people you know that are reliable, discreet, and trustworthy. I find it goes a long way and they give you shit so much cheaper, quicker, and cleaner.
 
From my experience I'd say Methadone. It was the worst for me among all opiates, benzos and everything else I've used in my life.
It was by far the hardest opiate I ever had to quit.

The worst withdrawals. The longest. It affects our ability to be happy again IMO/E.
And demands not only constant support but also time, persistence and courage.
 
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