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What is a more potent opiate?

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anti-social

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Hypothetical question...

Say that you are opiate niave and have no tolerance whatsoever, and you were given the chance to either take two hydrocodone 7.5mg, or two 8mg suboxone. Once again tolerance is not a question because you would only be taking them once. Which one would be more potent and give off more of a preceived "high"?
 
15mg of hc would give a great first time opiate high. 16mg of suboxone, on the other hand, if dosed properly would make you pass out if you're opiate-naive.
 
If you are opiate naive 2 - 8mg suboxones would give you much much more bang for your buck, but on the other hand trying to dose yourself correctly could end up with you vomiting for hours, or completely trashed - in a bad way.

.5mg should be plenty. Try measuring that out. lol.
 
anti-social said:
Hypothetical question...

Say that you are opiate niave and have no tolerance whatsoever, and you were given the chance to either take two hydrocodone 7.5mg, or two 8mg suboxone. Once again tolerance is not a question because you would only be taking them once. Which one would be more potent and give off more of a preceived "high"?
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Just like everyone else....if your only taking them once...TAKE THE HYDROCODONE. youll get WAY sick if your opiate naive and took 16mg of bup. I wouldnt be supprised if you overdosed from that shit.

The hydro would provide a better high anyway, even if the ammount of bup would be more 'potent'. Plus you wont die.
 
biggerstronger said:
If you are opiate naive 2 - 8mg suboxones would give you much much more bang for your buck, but on the other hand trying to dose yourself correctly could end up with you vomiting for hours, or completely trashed - in a bad way.

.5mg should be plenty. Try measuring that out. lol.
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With all the binders the pills come with, it's not that hard actually^^
 
well, im not totatlly opiate naive, i just took a month break from low dose methadone.

Took two subs, and feel a pretty pleseant buzz like I took a oxy 40mg or something. I can not believe i threw over a 100 over these out, i thought for sure there was some mechanism that made them tototaly unjoyable, i guess my tolerance was just way too high.

Now another question. If I were too take the same amount that would equal hydrocodone in suboxone, which would my body build tolearance faster too, or would they both be the same?
 
Aeon Psyche said:
With all the binders the pills come with, it's not that hard actually^^
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It's not really that hard, but for someone that is truly opiate naive .1-.2mg difference could mean vomit city. It's hard to gauge an exact amount when eye balling it.
 
Well, Mr. anti-social, I now know that I should not bother to post in any of your threads anymore, and devote my time to other people, since none of the shit you say adds up.

All the things you said in this thread contradict everything said here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=393665

So all of a sudden you are opiate naive with no tolerance? ("hypothetically," of course)

In the other thread you say you threw out 300 suboxone. Now its more like 100? Thats a pretty big difference.

You also say you hate suboxone. If you do, why are you taking them?
Not only are you taking them, but two suboxone is giving you a "pretty pleseant buzz," when just FIVE days ago, they "did nothing for you at all." <--- your exact words from the other thread.

There's so many more points where you contradict yourself, and I could point more and more out, but I'll spend my time in other ways, such as helping other people. It doesn't matter, because I think what I have so far is enough to show everyone that you're full or shit or just a troll.

Pleasure doing business with you.

JC
 
johanneschimpo said:
Well, Mr. anti-social, I now know that I should not bother to post in any of your threads anymore, and devote my time to other people, since none of the shit you say adds up.

All the things you said in this thread contradict everything said here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=393665

So all of a sudden you are opiate naive with no tolerance? ("hypothetically," of course)

In the other thread you say you threw out 300 suboxone. Now its more like 100? Thats a pretty big difference.

You also say you hate suboxone. If you do, why are you taking them?
Not only are you taking them, but two suboxone is giving you a "pretty pleseant buzz," when just FIVE days ago, they "did nothing for you at all." <--- your exact words from the other thread.

There's so many more points where you contradict yourself, and I could point more and more out, but I'll spend my time in other ways, such as helping other people. It doesn't matter, because I think what I have so far is enough to show everyone that you're full or shit or just a troll.

Pleasure doing business with you.

JC
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Well said. I always think it is funny when people come to this board with their giant uneducated opinions and spew them all over everyone else like vomit. Vomit awash with lies and douchery.
 
i used to shoot dope, i stoped. I got a 8mg from a friend earlier this year and i was fucking barfing and nodding. that shit will fuck you up for over 24 hrs
 
suboxone supposedly will get u high, but I've never hd it first hand.

My "friend," who is prone to bullshit mind you, says an 8mg pill is enough for him to split with 2 other people. He takes 15-20 norcos a day consistenly for months and has a big tolerance so that should tell u the power of the shit.

But again I've never had this myself and am giving you info he told me and I wouldnt trust the guy tho, but...
 
I started reading this thread, JC, and as soon as I saw who it was started by I was about to write exactly the same thing you did! sup with this guy?
 
I have a question. If you didnt really have a tolerance to opiates and took 16mg's of buprenorphine would you really overdose like someone had said above? I thought that buprenorphine was a relatively safe opiate. Especially with the Naloxone in it too.
 
LiquidICE said:
I have a question. If you didnt really have a tolerance to opiates and took 16mg's of buprenorphine would you really overdose like someone had said above? I thought that buprenorphine was a relatively safe opiate. Especially with the Naloxone in it too.
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The naloxone wont do anything.

Of course everyone is different, but I would say that ODing on that amount is a real possibility.
 
^^ cant be fun tho to take that much with no tolerance. From what i heard ull just be sick the whole time
 
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