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What is a good anti-depressant? Please

Carl Landrover said:
I may not have been on it as long as you or tapered off completely, but I have gotten off of suboxone before, I have been on it daily for the last 13 months, and within the last month I've decreased my daily dosage at least 45%. Every drug effects people differently, and it might produce negative side effects in some people, but I haven't really experienced much of what you're talking about.

I will agree it does feel less effective over time, but in the last month when I've decreased my dose, I've actually felt better (for the majority) and the suboxone actually feels more effective when I do take it. I've gotten more of a 'high' on it in the last 4 weeks, than I did in the 4 months prior to this. The only difficult parts have been when I've tried adjusting to the lower dose and it's been relatively minor.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a cure-all anti-depressant, and certainly not for everyone, but it could help in some people. Before getting on it, they should really try to understand what they'll be taking and how it might be down the road. Even if at some point they want to get off, it's an easy drug to taper down with and they won't have horrible WD's so long as their not on it too long. Most people prescribed suboxone have WD's resulting from:

Time Spent w/ Recreational Drug + Time Spent on Suboxone = x WD

Being prescribed it as an anti-depressant would have only Time Spent on Suboxone in the WD equation.
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i agree with you on a lot of what you say. i just happen to be one of those people who ended up as a ball and chain to the pharmaceutical company telling me (through the doctors) that suboxone is a easy, minimal W/D detox tool. i understand that it DOES help a ton of people and works GREAT as a SHORT detox drug, but i cant help but wonder the amount of people on suboxone to get off their DOC are still ON suboxone?

the one thing i disagree with you on is the fact that suboxone can help certain people with depression. i mean, i would never prescribe a OPIATE to anyone who truly wants a long-term solution to their problem. trust me on this one, i dont think anyone who is depressed wants to endure the W/D one goes through after kicking sub. for me it wasnt so much physical as it was MENTAl. HORRIBLE anxiety, MAJOR lethargy and depression that is still going on to this day 43 days later. its a complete head fuck. i just want everyone to weigh the risks with the rewards because many here are being told its a easy way to get clean. and many dont know how potent buprenorphine really is. ive said it before in other topics, but 0.3 mg is equal to 10 mg morphine in anagelsic potency. so people on 16 mg+ maitenence doses are REALLY flooding their receptors with a large amount of a potent drug that CERTAINLY fucks up somptin in our brains (from personal expereience).

im just here to inform from my stay on sub, and while it was great for the first 1.5+ years (trust me i would have said the same thing you have) it eventually turned on me and i had to get off. and i would choosed my heroin C/T over this 30+ day kick anyday...
 
To ombladon: what do you feel you need?

to speed up?

to slow down?

to be able to control yourself?

to be more assertive?
 
anti depressants are shit and just make you feel numb. take an opiate while your doing a regular activity like school or work and then you will see what it feels like to be happy and you can train yourself to think in that state of mind with some practice
 
I enjoy suboxone and get it when ever I find it, however it is rare and usually found through a friend of a friend type thing. An 1/8 - 1/4 of a 8mg sub leaves me positive and calm all day, even when taking daily (I'm also fairly light-weight with opiates). I just wish walking in and asking for sub is as easy as it seems to be described in this thread, it is definitely the best anti-depression/anxiety medicine I have had.
 
oota said:
anti depressants are shit and just make you feel numb. take an opiate while your doing a regular activity like school or work and then you will see what it feels like to be happy and you can train yourself to think in that state of mind with some practice
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Ive never had anti-depressants make me feel numb before at all and i think the whole anti-depressants making everyone who takes them feel numb is utter fucking bullshit. Major depression will make you feel more numb then anything else.
 
wesmdow said:
I recommend finding an opioid you are POSITIVE you can get on a consistant basis.
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^That's terrible advice. Train wreck territory 8o

The Medical Profession is far from perfect but it's by far the better option than simply adding opiate/opiod addiction to an already bad situation.
 
none of them are really good, if theyre ssris. Maoi's tend to work better though there is a strict diet that must be followwed when taking them.
 
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned Lamictal... I have been on it for about a month and definately notice an improvement in my moods, with no bad side effects. at this point i'm optimistic about what it can possibly do for me long-term.

as for Suboxone... please please dont try and get this for depression! It does feel good at first, yes, all opiates do. but in the long run, you'll regret it, i think. I recently got a script for my opiate addiction and am struggling to find an appropriate daily dose. If i take even 1 or 2 mgs too much I get sick as fuck. miserably sick. disfunctionally sick.
 
Ive been on a bunch of differents ADs over the last 15 years, their effects were marginal at best, for me anyway. Unless you have a genuine chemical imbalance (which Im still not convinced is just a term made up by pharmaceutical companies to make money off pills) I dont think they help, and usually the negative effects outway the positive.

I guess out of all of them wellbutrin helped me the most, seemed to have more energy and concentration, but it also caused some insomnia and made me easily agitated at times, like where you just wanna smack the shit outta someone because you think they looked at you funny.

Again Im no expert this is only my opinion. One thing I think does help depression more than any pill is .... exercise, if you can make yourself exercise for 30 minutes a day 5-6 days a week you'll feel a hell of a lot better.
 
To start off with tho he'll just be throwing guesses.
It could take a long time to find the right one for you, it's amazing how many different reactions people have to different AD's. Mind boggling.

You will find one that works for you so don't give up hope after trying lots.
I almost did and i'm quite glad i didn't in the end.
 
I was gonna say celexa or wellbutrin. But with the rage and meaness.... You might need something like seroquel or topamax. But if you would rather go slow and don't want to be over medicated.... I would say probaly prozac and lithium, or prozac and dextromethorpan...... With the clonazapam ur takin now
 
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Probably though. Even more so. U should kinda talk to ppl n stuff and figure out what u dont want. Like for example.... I know ppl who have been on effexor for years and they r like unphasable, but they're also like kinda in their own little happy land. They can be very unrealistic. Also i know ppl who been trying to get off effexor for like the longest and cant cause the wdrawls r horrid. So I wont take effexor.
I also wont take anything thats not atleast 10 years old. Cause when i was a kid i took zyprexa, and I'm hypoglocemic now. Which a few years back there was like a multimillion dollar settlment for (all the kids who ended up being hypoglocemic after takin zyprexa).
I also like to take as few prescriptions and the most minimal doses possible.... I went to a boarding school for wayward boys when i was a sophmore, and they had like everyone taking three different pills ( mostly uppers and antiphycotics) in the morning and three pills ( mainly like sleeping pills and antiphycotics) at night
 
So, all previous being said. I tell my doc what i dont want, and it makes it easier for him to decide what i might want/ like.
 
It's all trial and error when ur actually at the point where u want help. So if you tell him right off the bat, in a sensible way, what u feel u will be unhappy with. Maybe he wont make as many errors and you wont go through so many trials.
 
CafeContin said:
Why don't you talk to your doctor about this? Like are you planning on walking in and saying, "Yo I need a script for lexapro, some guy on the internet said it is the best drug for depression." ?
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that is what i have done with just about every medication i have ever been scripted. i find it far more useful to research medications on the internet than to walk into a doctors office and have him prescribe me his flavour of the month.
 
I've had problems in the past when suggesting what might be a suitable medication to be on, as my doctor isn't very flexible. Because he's gone through medical school and is a doctor, he thinks whatever I say is irrelevant as he knows best.
 
My psych. claims there's synergy between venlafaxine and methylphenidate.

Actually he said efexor will boost any psychostimulant.

I take 72mg concerta + 20mg ritalin per day.
I wouldn't mind having more methylphenidate. :(
 
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