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Opioids What Happened To My Warm Fuzzies?

Even with no tolerance I often couldn't get too stoned off 20mg of oxycodone, but it really all depends. After a year clean off methadone, 15mg of hydrocodone got me really stoned. I think the issue here is really tolerance. I sure if you shot or plugged some dope, or oxymorphone, you'd get pretty high, but it's probably best you don't as you'll just jack your tolerance up. You should just keep tapering from the loperamide and bupe, and start skipping dosages. I'm sure eventually you'll get that high you love back.
 
I am really dead-set on getting a high before I abstain for a few months, so I'm going to give it a good shot.

This whole plugging talk makes sense and seems effective. Can I get a link or something as to how I would do this with 20mg roxies, how much i should use, etc? Are there any potentiation tips this way? (DXM?)
 
With Oxy and most pills it's really easy. Yu just crush them up into a fine powder, and then buy a syringe, (1mL will do, but it might be better to go with a 3mL syringe or oral syringe for this purpose if you're working with multiple pills) you basically prep the whole thing like you would if you were going to shoot some dope, but you use more water. You poor the crushed powder into a spoon or bottle cap, and draw up a mL or more (I wouldn't use more than 3mL) and poor it onto the crushed pill powder. Use a piece of cotton, rolled up to be the size of about half of a pea, and throw that in the solution, the cotton should expand. Push the tip of the oral syringe into the cotton and draw up. Then lay on you're side and insert the syringe into your ass. Make sure it's deep enough inside that nothing will leak out. Push down on the plunger and slowly inject the solution in. Remain laying down on your side for about three minutes, it should hit you pretty quickly.
 
Wow that's...really interesting. i guess not a lot of people try this because of the taboo/stigma associated with this, but I don't give a fuck about that. Should I still potentiate with oral DXM? Obviously the GFJ/antacids will make no difference.
 
I think you should just try plugging it first and see how it goes, you don't want to accidents overdue it, and don't plug more than 20mg at a time to begin with. I'm pretty sure rectal BA for oxycodone is similar to oral, but still, you just want to always be safe when switching ROA, especially to ones that hit you a lot quicker
 
I'm glad you said that because I was going to go ahead and do 60mg, but I'll try 20mg and see how that goes.
 
Is the cotton part necessary? What are you filtering? Fillers? Are fillers not good for plugging? I mean, can it be harmful?
 
Yes, morphine gave me tiny tiny buzz.

Bit my favorite highs were oxy-c and methadone. I think im just going to go through WD"s, use alpraz to sleep, and try oxy again in a month.

O've tried other drugs pn the meantime (amphets, other stims, rec doses of benzp's but I hate all that. i want my warm fuzzies back, even if I have to come clean and stay clean for a few months...god this will suck.
 
I don't know if you really need to filter for plugging, you might want to just in case some of the non soluble binders cause irritation to the lining of your inner anus (sorry its hard for me to talk about plugging without using some grotesque imagery). If you're using morphine, rectal should definately have an advantage over oral. Methadone should definately get you high as it is super potent, but IMO, it wouldn't be wise to use it now, as you're already having problems with tolerance.

Use benzos or gabapentin/lyrica for anxiety, and maybey some mild stimulant to help you get through the day. I've heard that Methoxetamine is really good for withdrawal too, so if you can get you're hands on that it might be good to use for a while along with the other non-opioid chemicals, until you're tolerance has been reset. I doubt that you will have to wait for more than a month to get where you want.
 
Thanks Z, I'll see if I can get a hold of at least some of those. benzos shouldnt be a problem, but it's hard to get the less abusable stuff without a doctor. Methoxetamine, what is this?
 
^ it's a dissociative research chemical, an analogue of ketamine.

reading your replies to some of the responses makes me think you're not really heeding people's warnings about overdose.
if you take large doses trying to get high because your tolerance has been pushed up, you are at risk of overdosing and dying - or at least doing yourself harm.

this forum is not about helping you to get high, it is about helping people reduce the harms associated with drug use.
i do hope you heed some of the warnings here, because some of the things you've said are quite troubling.
you need to take care.
 
I am actually reducing the harm in my attempt to get high, which I am determined to do. Asking for advice here is for my safety, for that is my first priority. I am very cautious, just very naive about what kind of dose is required for me with my long term bupe made tolerance. I've never taken more than 60mg of OC at one time, and am afraid to go any higher. i take overdosing very seriously. I just need advice for the safest and most effective way to do it.
 
^ that's good, that's what we're here for. i don't think you should go above 60mg of oxy.
i guess you can maybe be thankful that you're not sick? i know it is frustrating not to cop the buzz you're after, but you want to survive the shot too, right?
have fun...be safe!
 
@spacejunk Thank you for your genuine concern and understanding, if 60mg of oxy doesn't even have SOME desirable effects, why go any further? I believe I would actually suffer respiratory arrest and die before I reached a dose that would give me the high I have been wanting/expecting. The fact of the matter seems to be my brain is just too used to opioids from all that bupe use and I'm going to have to be clean for a good while.

The two issues I fear most are, mostly this one, the immediate WD that lasts weeks from bupe.

The second issue is being bored and depressed waiting for tolerance to go down. I'm not looking forward to it.
 
That's why I would use some stimulants and some benzos. If I had the money to buy a shit ton of new RC stims nd some Xanax, I would quit suboxone right this second
 
That is EXACTLY what I'm going to do znegative. Stims would be great for my academics and crashing is no problem with good benzos. What would you recommend RC wise that is safe and as close to dextro-amphetamine as possible? I want to use it to do well in school (and be high too).

Are there any RC benzo's or something similar for the comedown and to hep me sleep? I really could use a recommendation on this because I no nothing about RC's and i want something effective and safe.

Also, I just took 60mg of oxycodone on a totally empty stomach with GFJ and let me tell you...I'm pretty high.

If I weren't on Adderall right now (and this is not the Adderall giving me this euphoric effect, but there may be some synergy, idk) I'd be nodding off, bur if I lose focus, I can nod a little bit.

This is great, It's pretty euphoric, maybe 5 out of 10. I'm itchy as hell though, but I feel great. I really look forward to trying this again in a few months when I abstain for a while.

In the meantime though, I'm going to use something as close to Adderall and Xanax (RC-wise on both of those) to keep my self occupied and doing well at school without causing a horrible benzo dependancy or something.

I can get both of them regularly (d-amp and alpraz) but they are too expensive, so if I can get an RC that is similar to either one and not super expensive, I'd like to try it.

I finally got my oxy-c high! Still though, it's no where near what it could be if I stay off the opiates for a while. i think I'll save my last 40mg for a "coming back to opiates" party in a few months.

UPDATE: It's been a few hours now and DAMN, I'm messed up here. Why the hell do I feel it so hard. Combo with Adderall, empty stomach, bupe is back in my system (synergy)?

Wow. This is not what I was expecting. Why didn't it work before? Same dosage, only real differences are the Adderall combo and my stomach had slightly less food in it. Why is this so fickle? I either feel nothing or I I get knocked on my ass. 8o

ANOTHER UPDATE: Holy crap, I don't know why the difference was so HUGE, but I was actually nodding off in class about 4 hours after I dosed. The effects were pretty strong, and I'm glad I didn't take 80mg or things could have been bad. Can an empty stomach make the difference between feeling almost nothing to feeling super drugged?

I can't believe that 60mg did nothing the first time, then a week later it did this to me. I don't think I'm going to be able to save that last 40mg after all...I am glad I finally experienced my high though, it has been years and years since I've had this.

I sense that I'm just rambling while under the influence of a euphoriant so I'm going to leave it be for now. I would love to hear what you guys have to say, I just don't understand why the difference was so phenomenal. Also, I'd like to know what RC's may be comparable to d-amp and a benzo.
 
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Now that I have come down I'm seriously concerned as to whether or not my remaining 40mg oxy-c can get me anywhere near i was earlier.

My question (in addition to all the ones in my last post) would be which ROA would be more effective?

Plugging the 40mg, or taking it on an empty stomach again with grapefruit juice?

I realize this is 20mg less than the dose that got me high and of course my tolerance has increased since tonight's use, but I want to get the most out of these last two roxies anyway. I plan on using tomorrow afternoon.

What do you guys think? (I would IV but I can't stand the thought of asking a pharmacist for needles, I wish there was an easier way...how exactly do you get needles legally anyway? I really don't have a clue)
 
Well here in New York, you can buy them over the counter at most pharmacies, and just ask for an "insuline syringe, 1cc or 1/2cc". I feel like saying "insuline" makes it seem less awkward as the pharmacist might think you're diabetic (though they probably still won't, it doesn't matter they sell them anyway). You can also order them online.

However, shooting oxycodone has little to no advantage, as oxycodone has such a high BA (80% absorption oral), so injecting would only add 20% to you're high, and boost you're tolerance. It also has a ery short duration. Iv oxycodone lasts one hour, two hours max.

I would save the 40 mg and wait a few days to take it. MDPV worked great as a study aid for me, but it's very addicting and has a horrible crash. From what I hear pentylone and pentadrone are similar, but slightly smoother. Dextroamphetamine is really the ideal study aide stimulant, but some cathinone type drugs work well enough too. Ethylphenidate is another RC that comes to mind which would be useful for this purpose. And phenazepam is an RC benzo which is about as potent as alprazolam, but has a much longer half life. Etizolam is Also on the market and it's a shorter acting benzo.

Anyway, glad you got your high back. If you want to keep experiencing the euphoria without having to keep upping your dose, wait a few days before you do it again, though I don't really have to tell you that as I'm sure you know.

Oh and also, I think that taking oxy after eating a fatty meal boosts the BA a bit too. You should stick to one ROA and just potentiate it with the grapefruit juice. While shooting oxy may get you a little higher, in the end it won't make much of a difference because it will just raise you're tolerance. Besides, the needles an addiction of its owne, best to steer clear of it if you've been using opioids for a while without resorting to that path.
 
You have been on BUPE for 4 years? 30mgs of oxy is literally nothing man.

I have been doing 40mgs of oxymorphone a day on and off (some days its roxi or sub after a 3 month period of straight opana) and i can tell you this about my tolerance. I can do the smallest bump of sub and be semi-ok for 6-12 hours. That shit is strong but doesn't really hold you the same way good opiates do.

When it comes to oxy though I feel like i could do unlimited amounts. Snorting 120mgs of oxy feels to me like snorting a fat quarter or a small half of a 40mg opana. Its quite fucked up i need to quit basically because a few days of oxymorphone use boosts tolerance through the roof. I could be wearing 100mcg/hr fent patches and still have a lower tolerance than using oxyM.

So really i think you are way too worried about OD; it is pretty hard to do unless you are an idiot. 30 Mgs of oxycodone isn't going to get you nodding after 4 years of sub i would imagine. you have to be pretty opiate naive to nod @ that dose
 
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