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I'm scared to try Datura and Heroin.. and never will.
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What drug/s are you scared to try?
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startenhash
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i used to be scared to try heroin, thought i would get addicted instantly and all that jazz, but in the end it easn't a big deal at all.
i'm scared to try pcp, and any hallucinogenic drugs really. i'm scared to take acid again.
i'm scared to try pcp, and any hallucinogenic drugs really. i'm scared to take acid again.
tranquilo
Bluelighter
This is a really interesting thread.
I think it is very revealing that on a drug education board there are so many people scared of substances. Particularly after reading so many 'accounts' of effects. It is one thing garnering knowledge, another approaching things with an open mind. The most powerful influence upon your experience with a drug is set and setting: you and your surroundings. If you are scared you experience that fear in some manifestation via the drug.
Conversely, I have seen very straight people take very strong drugs and ask "and what is it supposed to do" an hour after because they didn't know what to expect and just carried on being themselves. The power of expectation is greatly underestimated.
Mr Bill Hicks is a legend in our community here yet the "subjective experience" message seems to have been forgotten. Education and research are our shields in the crazy war on drugs, but education attempts to free the mind of uncertainy, it is not meant to cast doubts. If your reading matter deals with the subjective then it is personalised. This is not objective assessment.
I know there are some substances that might not suit my persona, perhaps I won't go looking for them but I hope that by the end of my life i will have been offered everything and tried everything. And I certainly hope the experience wont be influenced by fear.....drugs are life's way of explaining that fear is a futile state of mind.
Last year I tried crack. No dramas, no sudden transformation into a rock junki, just notlike the 'research' you might hear. And the next day, to quote Mr Hicks, "I got up and went about my business".
Know, Enjoy and Reflect upon everything once.
I think it is very revealing that on a drug education board there are so many people scared of substances. Particularly after reading so many 'accounts' of effects. It is one thing garnering knowledge, another approaching things with an open mind. The most powerful influence upon your experience with a drug is set and setting: you and your surroundings. If you are scared you experience that fear in some manifestation via the drug.
Conversely, I have seen very straight people take very strong drugs and ask "and what is it supposed to do" an hour after because they didn't know what to expect and just carried on being themselves. The power of expectation is greatly underestimated.
Mr Bill Hicks is a legend in our community here yet the "subjective experience" message seems to have been forgotten. Education and research are our shields in the crazy war on drugs, but education attempts to free the mind of uncertainy, it is not meant to cast doubts. If your reading matter deals with the subjective then it is personalised. This is not objective assessment.
I know there are some substances that might not suit my persona, perhaps I won't go looking for them but I hope that by the end of my life i will have been offered everything and tried everything. And I certainly hope the experience wont be influenced by fear.....drugs are life's way of explaining that fear is a futile state of mind.
Last year I tried crack. No dramas, no sudden transformation into a rock junki, just notlike the 'research' you might hear. And the next day, to quote Mr Hicks, "I got up and went about my business".
Know, Enjoy and Reflect upon everything once.
BigTrancer
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Conversely, I have seen very straight people take very strong drugs and ask "and what is it supposed to do" an hour after because they didn't know what to expect and just carried on being themselves. The power of expectation is greatly underestimated.
I agree totally! I've seen this quite a few times. I've also witnessed the sad circumstance where people like these run into trouble because if they keep trying strong drugs assuming that they're impervious to the effects, eventually they'll happen upon a chemical that DOES work for them. Overpoweringly so. I've seen this so many times and heard "but I tried twice this much last time and it didn't work" uttered by too many people freaking out on stuff they didn't think was strong.
On the other hand... I really enjoy crack, but it's a personal thing and I'm not about to recommend anyone tries it. I'm pretty sure nobody starts out to become a heroin addict or a crack addict, so be very comfortable with your own self-discipline before you try new things.
BigTrancer
tranquilo
Bluelighter
plazma
Bluelighter
I'd like to ammend my previous statement at the beginning of this thread. I'm not scared of trying any drug, there's a lot that I respect very healthily (like all of them) but there is no way that I would get scared of trying a drug.
*shrugs*
-plaz out-
*shrugs*
-plaz out-
Timmy C
Bluelighter
Viagra!
psijuannn
Bluelighter
Drugs I won't do: PCP, Datura.
Drugs I really want to try: 2CB, 2ct7, DMT.
I find the whole needle-IV phobia quite humorous and hypocritical. After all, administering drugs intravenously is common pracise in the medical community, while railing drugs is unheard of in hospitals, and also hurts a hellovalot more than injecting. Preparing an injection on yourself, with sterile technique and proper filtering has virtually nil harmful effects on the body.
As for the fear of heroin addiction. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but I've been chipping away using the gear every couple of weeks, especially before social outings, without any issues of addiction or overdose.
Drugs I really want to try: 2CB, 2ct7, DMT.
I find the whole needle-IV phobia quite humorous and hypocritical. After all, administering drugs intravenously is common pracise in the medical community, while railing drugs is unheard of in hospitals, and also hurts a hellovalot more than injecting. Preparing an injection on yourself, with sterile technique and proper filtering has virtually nil harmful effects on the body.
As for the fear of heroin addiction. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but I've been chipping away using the gear every couple of weeks, especially before social outings, without any issues of addiction or overdose.
*nods in aggreement with Timmy C*
You may not want to ~try~ Viagra, but hey, you'll neva have to (as long as we've got G anyway)!!
oh G...
OH G...
OH GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
:D
Never try: Heroin. Well, unless i was diagnoised with a deadly disease and was going to die very soon. But that's doubtful.
You may not want to ~try~ Viagra, but hey, you'll neva have to (as long as we've got G anyway)!!
oh G...
OH G...
OH GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
:D
Never try: Heroin. Well, unless i was diagnoised with a deadly disease and was going to die very soon. But that's doubtful.
Pleonastic
Bluelighter
Originally posted by KiRsTy*:
*nods in aggreement with Timmy C*
You may not want to ~try~ Viagra, but hey, you'll neva have to (as long as we've got G anyway)!!
oh G...
OH G...
OH GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!The phrase "get a room" springs to mind...
mellyks
Bluelighter
i would never iv anything. yes, its a needle thing. i pass out and throw up when i get a blood test! plus, i might like it too much, so i think its best that i DONT find out what it is like. would never do heroin or crack. i used to be to scared to smoke p (pure speed) but i do it now. i would like to try shrooms but am a little scared it might be "too much" to handle.
I actually believe 'fear' of trying certain substances can be a very healthy psychological response, symptomatic of being well informed and educated about said substances. Due to information i've garnered from bluelight and a variety of other sources, i can say that in this place and point in time i would be 'scared' (of the physical and psychological effects) to the point of not wanting them administered of:
PCP
Datura
nutmeg
glue/paint/petrol/butane/etc
antipsychotic agents (apparently many have nasty, nasty side affects)
Outside of 'fear' though, there is the element of personal choice regarding certain drugs that is simply a rational response to the positives outweighing the benefits (in the individual's own opinion). Some drugs, while having not personally tried them, i would simply not choose to partake of, because from what i've learned about their long and short term psychological and physical effects. These would include:
1,4b
DXM
ethanol
methylcathinone
antidepressants
codiene (at a large enough dose to be deemed recreational)
some of those listed above may simply be based on the fact that i don't think i'd find the short term effects pleasant or useful in any way to me. I don't really believe this is the same thing as being 'afraid' of the effects of a substance.
Finally, methods of administration:
I tend to take a (in my opinion) relatively rational approach to administration. If the positives outweigh the benefits, i won't use that method. For example, i would never drop a dissolved solution into my eyes, due to the potential of blindness, eye irritation and pain, etc.
Whereas i have no major qualms about needles, IV or IM, i would never inject something that was previously in pill form due to potential dire complications that could occur. (unless it had been fully and cleanly extracted)
I would probably never IV or IM a substance whose purity i wasn't entirely sure about.
But as has been pointed out by other posters, this is all highly subject to this place in time and space. While in the forseeable future, the rules i have outlined above would remain applicable, you can never really know what the future holds. If a close friend or family member was suddenly killed, i'm pretty certain about 2.5 minutes after hearing the news i would be out trying to score H or some such similar substance, and would bang it regardless of purity. Sure i'd be scared of what it'd do to me in the long term, but probably not scared enough to have the patience to wait for the cleaning process. and sure it would be juvenille and escapist, but thats just probably truthfully how it would go.
It's interesting that no-one has mentioned what it would take or in what (if any) circumstances they would overcome their fear of certain substances or routes of administration.
PCP
Datura
nutmeg
glue/paint/petrol/butane/etc
antipsychotic agents (apparently many have nasty, nasty side affects)
Outside of 'fear' though, there is the element of personal choice regarding certain drugs that is simply a rational response to the positives outweighing the benefits (in the individual's own opinion). Some drugs, while having not personally tried them, i would simply not choose to partake of, because from what i've learned about their long and short term psychological and physical effects. These would include:
1,4b
DXM
ethanol
methylcathinone
antidepressants
codiene (at a large enough dose to be deemed recreational)
some of those listed above may simply be based on the fact that i don't think i'd find the short term effects pleasant or useful in any way to me. I don't really believe this is the same thing as being 'afraid' of the effects of a substance.
Finally, methods of administration:
I tend to take a (in my opinion) relatively rational approach to administration. If the positives outweigh the benefits, i won't use that method. For example, i would never drop a dissolved solution into my eyes, due to the potential of blindness, eye irritation and pain, etc.
Whereas i have no major qualms about needles, IV or IM, i would never inject something that was previously in pill form due to potential dire complications that could occur. (unless it had been fully and cleanly extracted)
I would probably never IV or IM a substance whose purity i wasn't entirely sure about.
But as has been pointed out by other posters, this is all highly subject to this place in time and space. While in the forseeable future, the rules i have outlined above would remain applicable, you can never really know what the future holds. If a close friend or family member was suddenly killed, i'm pretty certain about 2.5 minutes after hearing the news i would be out trying to score H or some such similar substance, and would bang it regardless of purity. Sure i'd be scared of what it'd do to me in the long term, but probably not scared enough to have the patience to wait for the cleaning process. and sure it would be juvenille and escapist, but thats just probably truthfully how it would go.
It's interesting that no-one has mentioned what it would take or in what (if any) circumstances they would overcome their fear of certain substances or routes of administration.
the_beaver
Bluelighter
I would not do acid again too much commitment..in the come down
Crack's great but i would rather have coke
Heroin is somthing not to be messed with.Had it (no i.v.) and well it was ok but id prefer to be up and about, and after seeing several long term heroin users (20 years+)die from it,it ain't cool.
Fear of substances and overcoming them is more a fact of knowing your limits.
And we all have them...
Crack's great but i would rather have coke
Heroin is somthing not to be messed with.Had it (no i.v.) and well it was ok but id prefer to be up and about, and after seeing several long term heroin users (20 years+)die from it,it ain't cool.
Fear of substances and overcoming them is more a fact of knowing your limits.
And we all have them...
SeveredPsyche
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Trillian:
KiTTyLiCiOuS
Bluelighter
I was wondering about the alcohol thing too.
Gnome Raver
Bluelighter
Ok until I was in my late 20s I was afraid to take alcohol... for many valid and not so valid reasons.
So things I am afraid to take now (as opposed to unwilling to take).
Coke - oh damn I did that already
LSD - damn the coke made me do it
Seriously though, things I have a fear of taking although I actually am interested in trying them(I think this is perfectly healthy respectful kinda fear)...
LSD again - the emotinaly troubling time I had the two times I tried this, although brief, where enough to tell me that to try this again I would have to be in the right frame of mind and right environment
GHB - only because of the dose thing and I have not found anyone to help me try this safely (actually want to try it)
Weed - seriously, I have had the worst experiences on MJ over any other drug. I would most likely have a few tokes if offered but will not get stoned again.
Anything I don't know about - if I have not heard of it and know what it does and how safe it is or is not then I am not going to try it.
Anything I have not tested first.
That sums it up.
And to the person who listed glue and nitrous together... the doctors gave me nitrous before my tonsils where removed when i was a kid so i can hardly consider it the same as chroming or glue.
So things I am afraid to take now (as opposed to unwilling to take).
Coke - oh damn I did that already
LSD - damn the coke made me do it
Seriously though, things I have a fear of taking although I actually am interested in trying them(I think this is perfectly healthy respectful kinda fear)...
LSD again - the emotinaly troubling time I had the two times I tried this, although brief, where enough to tell me that to try this again I would have to be in the right frame of mind and right environment
GHB - only because of the dose thing and I have not found anyone to help me try this safely (actually want to try it)
Weed - seriously, I have had the worst experiences on MJ over any other drug. I would most likely have a few tokes if offered but will not get stoned again.
Anything I don't know about - if I have not heard of it and know what it does and how safe it is or is not then I am not going to try it.
Anything I have not tested first.
That sums it up.
And to the person who listed glue and nitrous together... the doctors gave me nitrous before my tonsils where removed when i was a kid so i can hardly consider it the same as chroming or glue.
d e v i a n t
Bluelighter
hrm, id have to say id try anything twice.. ive already lived by the rule ill try/do anything twice.. why not once u say ? because u need more than 1 thing so u can compare it..
but i defedently wouldnt do anything IV
nor cocaine, speed/meth etc..
but i, even if just once, have to try datura and dmt.. just so i can experiance it
but i defedently wouldnt do anything IV
nor cocaine, speed/meth etc..
but i, even if just once, have to try datura and dmt.. just so i can experiance it
Strawberry_lovemuffin
Bluelighter
Really, I've done all I want to do, and a few I wish I hadn't (K, for example: I like to feel my legs, thanks ):
- ecstacy
- mushies
- coke
- speed
- K
- acid
- weed
- alcohol, tobacco
But e & coke are my favorites, followed by speed, and I'd happily stick with those. I have no desire for halluconagenic experiences, I even find smoking pot weird and am often the only one in the room who refuses a cone.
It's not that I'm *scared* of heroin, if someone I knew offered it I may actually use it (probably not IV'd though), but I have absolutely *no* desire to ever seek it out. As for research chemicals and the rest of that bizzare alphabetical drug library; no thanks. Or not unless I've fully researched and gotten quite a few first-hand recommendations from trusted friends. I see the benefit of e: empathy. Coke: confidence. Speed: energy (to put it simply).
The rest? Just getting fucked up? Um, not for me.
However, I wonder what I'd be enticed to try if my 'favorites' were unavailable for any length of time? .... I am definitely not scared of anything, more just uninterested I suppose.
[ 11 November 2002: Message edited by: Strawberry_lovemuffin ]
):- ecstacy
- mushies
- coke
- speed
- K
- acid
- weed
- alcohol, tobacco
But e & coke are my favorites, followed by speed, and I'd happily stick with those. I have no desire for halluconagenic experiences, I even find smoking pot weird and am often the only one in the room who refuses a cone.
It's not that I'm *scared* of heroin, if someone I knew offered it I may actually use it (probably not IV'd though), but I have absolutely *no* desire to ever seek it out. As for research chemicals and the rest of that bizzare alphabetical drug library; no thanks. Or not unless I've fully researched and gotten quite a few first-hand recommendations from trusted friends. I see the benefit of e: empathy. Coke: confidence. Speed: energy (to put it simply).
The rest? Just getting fucked up? Um, not for me.
However, I wonder what I'd be enticed to try if my 'favorites' were unavailable for any length of time? .... I am definitely not scared of anything, more just uninterested I suppose.
[ 11 November 2002: Message edited by: Strawberry_lovemuffin ]
porn*
Bluelighter
"acid - because i hear it can make you think you are a sunflower"
Hallucinogens. I dread the day when i get hallucinogenic effects from pills. Yes, it may sound gay, but i don't think i could ever look at reality in the same way after a strong bender. Plus, i've been pumped with one too many propaganda tales of kids dropping tabs and 'never being the same ever again.' So with that in the back of my mind, i'm sure i'll have a shitty time anyway.
Not even a big fan of pot. I remember getting stoned and heading home by myself on the bus and getting some fucked up auditory hallucinations. A woman's voice turned into donald duck's, which would have been entertaining if someone was there to share it with but at the time i just felt like all these people were staring at me. Then i got lost on george st in the city. I couldn't figure out how to phone my friends for help. It was a mess, i almost cried in the gutter. In retrospect, that would have been hilarious. Don't mind the odd spliff on occassion, but i'm not the multiple bucket bong type.
I think i'd rather iv H than shroom. Don't get me wrong, I'm definately curious to try them so will most likely do it when i'm older and more stable.
Give me coke!
Give me speed!
Just don't farking give me weed!
[ 11 November 2002: Message edited by: porn* ]
Hallucinogens. I dread the day when i get hallucinogenic effects from pills. Yes, it may sound gay, but i don't think i could ever look at reality in the same way after a strong bender. Plus, i've been pumped with one too many propaganda tales of kids dropping tabs and 'never being the same ever again.' So with that in the back of my mind, i'm sure i'll have a shitty time anyway.
Not even a big fan of pot. I remember getting stoned and heading home by myself on the bus and getting some fucked up auditory hallucinations. A woman's voice turned into donald duck's, which would have been entertaining if someone was there to share it with but at the time i just felt like all these people were staring at me. Then i got lost on george st in the city. I couldn't figure out how to phone my friends for help. It was a mess, i almost cried in the gutter. In retrospect, that would have been hilarious. Don't mind the odd spliff on occassion, but i'm not the multiple bucket bong type.
I think i'd rather iv H than shroom. Don't get me wrong, I'm definately curious to try them so will most likely do it when i'm older and more stable.
Give me coke!
Give me speed!
Just don't farking give me weed!
[ 11 November 2002: Message edited by: porn* ]
Riot Grrrl
Bluelighter
well, i've been warned to stay away from ice, I've heard some bad stories so i think i won't even THINK about giving it a try. Though i hear bad stories about everything
I wouldn't try H or coke.. i made my limit at ecstacy, though i broke it when i tried acid.. I am definetly drawing the line....somewhere. These days i hardly do weed anymore unless it's a really small amount, i'm always scared i'll fall asleep straight after and waste the pot for myself and others
I wouldn't try H or coke.. i made my limit at ecstacy, though i broke it when i tried acid.. I am definetly drawing the line....somewhere. These days i hardly do weed anymore unless it's a really small amount, i'm always scared i'll fall asleep straight after and waste the pot for myself and others