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Heroin what do u use to kick heroin?

i came in kind of late here but having recently kicked again (and then gone back on within a week, but whatever) i feel VERY qualified to talk about this. i could be a freaking life coach, i'm so positive. ;)

some people have talked about the positive thinking, i'm a big fan of just 'turning off' my brain completely. even with suboxone withdrawals can be hell (at least for me - my last withdrawal the first day i took 8 mg every 4-5 hours and it was still very painful, just in a muffled sort of way). my boyfriend was also getting clean along with me, and i just noticed that the way we viewed it really made a difference. he is of the 'i'm going to die, i'm going to die' school of thought, which i think made his overall experience a lot worse. he spent his first few days roaming around the house, occasionally crying. i spent it curled up in bed half-watching movies and just trying to ignore how much i WANTED to die.

also if you can get someone to massage your calves and your lower back, that helps the pain and restlessness a lot for me. and the showers. gotta love the showers.
 
Unbreakable said:
Methadone is just a synthetic heroin invented under Hitlers rule... Thats like stopping taking Xtc and than doing molly and claiming to be drug free....

suboxone if anything... I understand if people gotta alotta shit going on, but if your going to stop dope , stop it... Why subistute for something else, that you will be feining for and sick when you dont get it...
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Easy to say, allot harder to do. I understand what your saying but the OP asked what I would use. My thoughts were that OP was looking for the easiest, least painful kick and certainly methadone is that. What I didn't say was maintainance as you are assuming. Inhouse detoxes offer 21 day methadone tapers all the time. Done correctly, it's the least painful heroin kick. Second would be subo's but your still gonna kick for a few days before they are effective.
 
unless youre one of those people that subs dont seem to work for at all, you dont really have to kick for subs to work...just wait til you start to feel sick and snort like half a mg every half hour until you feel better. (this has worked for me and my friends-im sure theres a few people who would get PW from this)
 
I'm using heroin again and want/have to kick again but I don't have the time to kick. I still have to work and pay my bills. My habit is up there but in quality not qantity, if that makes sense. In other words, I only shoot about a 10th and half a day but its really good. Anyways, I don't think the Immodium AD's are goin to work enough so I can still make it work but I do have 12 mgs of Sub. Any suggestions on the best way to ration these out so I can get through the week and then try to sleep through Sat and Sund so I'm kinda rested when Mon comes around? Subs work for me in the past but a couple of weeks ago, I shot up 2 mgs of Sub about 12 hrs after my last dope and it horrifying! WD's hit me so hard I could hardly walk! I thought I was sick enough(sweats, chills, sneezing, teary eyes) to do the Subs but I was wrong. Any suggestions?
 
you have to wait atleast 24 hours if youve been on a long run doing dope. if you can somehow force you rself to wait 36 hours, 2mg of sub will have you feeling GREAT, compared to how you would feel if you took it at like 18 hours (possibly entering into pw's)

Then you could do like 7 days and you will probably feel fine since you are not doing a shitload of h. the key is waitin glong enough to take your dose, to give your receptors time to free up

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dharmabum22 said:
I'm using heroin again and want/have to kick again but I don't have the time to kick. I still have to work and pay my bills. My habit is up there but in quality not qantity, if that makes sense. In other words, I only shoot about a 10th and half a day but its really good. Anyways, I don't think the Immodium AD's are goin to work enough so I can still make it work but I do have 12 mgs of Sub. Any suggestions on the best way to ration these out so I can get through the week and then try to sleep through Sat and Sund so I'm kinda rested when Mon comes around? Subs work for me in the past but a couple of weeks ago, I shot up 2 mgs of Sub about 12 hrs after my last dope and it horrifying! WD's hit me so hard I could hardly walk! I thought I was sick enough(sweats, chills, sneezing, teary eyes) to do the Subs but I was wrong. Any suggestions?
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