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Heroin what do u use to kick heroin?

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avalentin618

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I was wondering, how do u guys kick best? how many of u do it cold turkey? who is a sub lover like me? methadone treatment? "weaning"? (where u just use when ur sick n just a little bit, but that never works)
 
Imodium for the shits....and stomach cramps

Valium for the shitty feelings and thoughts... and sleep sometimes....

Lots of good bud.... helps you eat and not puke.....

Some kind of sleeping pill to force you to sleep when you feel like shit...

Muscle relaxer for the Restless leg Syndrome....

Ibuprofen for the body aches and fever.
 
Very nice unbreakable I would also recommend hot showers and baths those feel GREAT. I'm getting clean right now and its day 8 feeling like shit but everyone is telling me exercise will help after you get through the first 4-5 days.
 
Sex is pretty nice to get your mind of how shitty you feel, plus you can roll over and sleep if she will allow : )

I would also recommend eating all your meals.... and keeping Hydrated because you will be shitting / puking and sweating some...
 
Along with Unbreakable's remedy I wait till 36 hours after last use and then snort 1/2 of a 8mg sub. Then taper down, 2mg the next day and then 1mg for the next 2 days. I also throw in a few Ambien for force myself to sleep to get through it. The sub taper stops the diarrhea and vomiting (for me) I still have the cramps and overall feeling like garbage, as well as the whole mental depression component but at least I don't have to fun to the john every 5 mins). Best of luck. I kicked in August in rehab for 40 days, it was tough. Best of luck.
 
jail. I swear it is so much easier to kick dope when your locked up. Just knowing that you arent going any place and that you have no choice but to deal with it makes it a lot easier.
 
Oh and one other thing that I found extremely helpful is Clonidine. It didn't do much in the acute phase (days 1-10 ballpark) But after that it helped tremendously with the post acute withdrawal syndrome stuff (uncomfortable chills, sweating and generalized aches that seem to come with any stresssor) The thing that sucks is no one knows how long the PAWS symptoms last, can be upwards of 2 years. All depends on length of use, how much, genetics etc. Anyway, best of luck kicking, its not easy. I agree about kicking in prison. I locked myself in a rehab and it was really hard for the first 10 days, the cravings were off the chart, vivid dreams/nightmares of using, I'd wake up salivating. Then there is the damn uncontrollable sneezing lol. If I was home trying to kick I am sure I would have copped. How are you planning to do it? Home? What kind of support system do you have? It may sound cheesy but having a group of fellow fiends around me to talk to every day who were going through the same thing was instrumental for me. I am not a big fan of NA/AA (too religious) but the group concept and finding people who genuinely understand what you are going through or will be going through can be more therapeutic and valuable than all the different meds and concoctions to alleviate symptoms. There is a huge psychological component to addiction, particularly with opiates. We fall in love with them and your brain equates the neccesity to have them with survival instincts like food and shelter on a subconcious level. I tried to detox a dozen or so times at home doing methadone tapers and all kinds of stuff. It took me 1.5 years to realize there was a whole other piece to the puzzle I didn't comprehend, the psychological part. Your brain has to get rewired so to speak and you will need support and help to do that. Sorry for the long rant, that was just my experience. Hope it was helpful and not to preachy. lol. All the best.

Peace:)
 
damn, IDK how anyone could EVER wait 36 fuckin hours to dose sub. I was always gettin sick at the latest like 8 hours from my last use. I was doin alot of dope tho.

Also if you ever heard of Vistaril if you take that with Clonidine and Klonopin or valium, and Methadone or sub, and smoke a blunt or 2 each day, you will be feeling just about A OK. Add the immodiums and all that ish and you aint even gonna care.

The thing is try kickin on probation when you cant smoke bud. You diont realize how helpful and amazing weed is for kickin dope til you cant smoke no more
 
ya lacey, totally agree with you on the smoking weed thing... and methadone is what i use the most... works the best if you taper correctly, which can be faster then you think if you have some balls..


weed and methadone, and a benzo would be nice too. hehe :)
 
I like to use suboxone and xanax so I can sleep, but I always go back to using, the longest I've been clean was when I was locked up and for a while when I got out.
 
I haven't used as of jan 1st 2010 .For me the best thing I have used to quit is Xanax.[Alaprozam] Which fortunatly I have a standing presciption to,and i dont take as prescribed so I have a bunch of full bottles in the medicine cabinet. However from what I have heard coming off Xanax or other benzodiazapines sucks! So dont exaserbate the problem. That is why I am afraid to use them regularly. anyway the only other thing i have thought might help would be to have someone use their car to peel out on my legs! lol j/k. ;)
 
Unbreakable said:
Imodium for the shits....and stomach cramps

Valium for the shitty feelings and thoughts... and sleep sometimes....

Lots of good bud.... helps you eat and not puke.....

Some kind of sleeping pill to force you to sleep when you feel like shit...

Muscle relaxer for the Restless leg Syndrome....

Ibuprofen for the body aches and fever.
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and gatorade

weed is key cause you gotta eat, and without it it's really hard to stomach anything
 
I use a shit load of Immodium AD. Like 40 to 50 ofem, even more if I've been using heavily. Fuck, I even got addicted to the Immodiums! WAS NOT psychological. Tears, chills, sweats, etc. Weed or hash is great for the chills and bein able to relax a little. I FUCKIN HATE KICKIN! I'm such a cerebral dude that the RLS seems only minor compared to the hopelesness of it all. So many depressing thoughts just racing. Then ya look at your tracks and start craving like a mofo. One thing that is kinda cool after about a week is the amplified emotions. Songs and movies get ya all choked up. I was practically in tears watchin Forest Gump when Jenny died. Jennaayy!!! -you know how he says it.
 
I've kicked a zillion times it seems. Methadone is always best if you can get it. If not, I'd take the subo train. Wait till I'm good and sick and start low (like 2mg.) and wait for 30min to see if it's gonna get worse, or better. If the latter, chase with another 2-4mg every 30min till I'm good. I've had to do plenty of cold turkey's too. That always sucks. You'd think that you'd learn not to ever want that shite feeling again but the brain plays tricks. You tend to forget just how crap it was just like blocking out a car wreck.
 
Methadone is just a synthetic heroin invented under Hitlers rule... Thats like stopping taking Xtc and than doing molly and claiming to be drug free....

suboxone if anything... I understand if people gotta alotta shit going on, but if your going to stop dope , stop it... Why subistute for something else, that you will be feining for and sick when you dont get it...
 
deal w.it and stay up for first 24 hrs. then take cocktail of pills - ONE of each - xanax temazepam klonopin valium soma phenergren - each time i wake up. stay in dark room with blankets and fan... whatever i don't sleep thru i'm blacked out for - the pills last about 1.5-2 days. then the only horribly bothersome PHYSICAL issue (i consider insomnia to be mental) i have left over is diarrhea - immodium. but..... then i tend to not be able to "handle it" mentally and decide to do it again "just tonight" and then it escalates. i go thru this about every 6 weeks. but! if one has a moderate habit & does not have a tolerance to benzodiazipines &&&!!! thinks they're COMPLETELY ready to stop instead of restarting afterward as i do, this could probably work pretty well. possibly add an OTC sleep aid.
 
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