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We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

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i cant be arsed with whats going on today! me and modern mdma is history....

its just a shame im not santa, cause id be going round with my sack dishing out pressies for everyone for xmas. californians, white burgers, phantasy capsules, snowballs, yummy! hell, rewind 10 years ago and id defo settle for a pink butterfly right now. small little things they were, snapped so easily when u broke them. felt so clean. none of this dirty heaviness sitting in the background and overtaking the experience
 
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dee_dee said:
i cant be arsed with whats going on today! me and modern mdma is history....

its just a shame im not santa, cause id be going round with my sack dishing out pressies for everyone for xmas. californians, white burgers, phantasy capsules, snowballs, yummy! hell, rewind 10 years ago and id defo settle for a pink butterfly right now. small little things they were, snapped so easily when u broke them. felt so clean. none of this dirty heaviness sitting in the background and overtaking the experience
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In my memory back in early 90s was generally pretty good for pills but there was still shit about and copy's just like now? Sure you not looking through rose tinted specks?
 
adam phinel said:
In my memory back in early 90s was generally pretty good for pills but there was still shit about and copy's just like now? Sure you not looking through rose tinted specks?
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lol, round and round and round. erm, copies only really started appearing when the branded pills like doves came out, and yep there was utter shite going about too once the price dropped to 15 quid a pill. you just took one and if it was shite u avoided like the plague. the 80s there was not one shit pill i took ever. then once doves came out all these other things started appearing, speedy pills with crap comedowns and mdea that just made u feel like a mong, or even worse disco biscuits laced with k and all sorts of crap that had you glued to the floor all night feeling like a vegetable. worst thing that happened was when the branded pills came out imo, thats when it all started getting a bit suspect. but i just sued to wait until somone i trusted just couldnt wait to let me no theyd found the right one all over again
 
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lol, round and round and round. erm, copies only really started appearing when the branded pills like doves came out, and yep there was utter shite going about too once the price dropped to 15 quid a pill. you just took one and if it was shite u avoided like the plague. the 80s there was not one shit pill i took ever. then once doves came out all these other things started appearing, speedy pills with crap comedowns and mdea that just made u feel like a mong, or even worse disco biscuits laced with k and all sorts of crap that had you glued to the floor all night feeling like a vegetable. worst thing that happened was when the branded pills came out imo, thats when it all started getting a bit suspect. but i just sued to wait until somone i trusted just couldnt wait to let me no theyd found the right one all over again
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I remember early 90s just after the good Doves there was Swans which were nice then a second batch that everyone said was smakky.

It reminds me of now.

I guess when It was first happening the scammers had not managed to get involved. Just the way it goes. But like now the good shit still exists. Just need to know what your up against.
 
lets be honest its always a possiblbilty that kind of things going to happen. its a bit like shopping for a genuine armani jacket on a market stall....
 
dee_dee said:
lets be honest its always a possiblbilty that kind of things going to happen. its a bit like shopping for a genuine armani jacket on a market stall....
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I joined the scene around 91 I was too young for the first bit in late 80s so I can't comment on that era.

But certainly since 91 although I would agree that generally pills were better earlier on I do actually think that currently I am best positioned.

I mean I just couldn't get crystal back then at all. And pills were good but defiantly still adulterated at times. For example in 90s I remember green butterfly which were very pure MDMA and really gave a similar effect to the pills now.

An there was Dolphins that were deffo MDMA but something else too that was still very good but not pure. And allot of folks preferred them to the pure MDMA ones.

Also the california sunrise were not pure MDMA they were way too speedy in my opinion.

Also in late 90s I remember a pill that was blue diamond shape and everyone loved them. A kid I knew actually was sick off them and ended up in Hospital and the test results were not MDMA at all.

So it was definately happening all along at least since early 90s. Maybe some of us were lucky to have better suppliers. But I suspect it's always been the case.
 
yeah its always been the case from 1990 onwards, but ocasionaly youd get someone like the snowball pressers just out the blue suprise you with something in a completley different league and class, and when you got something top notch quality, you knew all about it. i stopped clubbing and had my mates every so often just say look youve got to start coming out now, its here again, pmsl. they was so sucked into cosumerism theyd happen keep munching every week while i sat back and chilled. stupid ,cause they kenw the difference too, but they was happy with that continuous lifestyle back then
 
dee_dee said:
yeah its always been the case from 1990 onwards, but ocasionaly youd get someone like the snowball pressers just out the blue suprise you with something in a completley different league and class, and when you got something top notch quality, you knew all about it. i stopped clubbing and had my mates every so often just say look youve got to start coming out now, its here again, pmsl. they was so sucked into cosumerism theyd happen keep munching every week while i sat back and chilled. stupid ,cause they kenw the difference too, but they was happy with that continuous lifestyle back then
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I'm beginning to wonder in the current climate if those who are having the poor experience are being unlucky and getting the fake stuff thats still testing positive. Maybe the fakers have just got very good at copying and making stuff people think must be OK.

Someone on pillreports has stated that a batch of mdma crystal that looked and tested up fine was tested by police at 40% mdma and 60% mdpv

That would make perfect sense of this situation along with the same thing in fake pills if you ask me?

What exactly have you tried of the current stuff so far Dee Dee? Do you think this is possible?
 
ive only tried the pink diamonds and the grey crystal. and ive left a 6 month gap inbetween cause i dont like taking drugs very often anymore. i believe they was the real deal. i didnt have a problem with the diamonds but again MY opinions i felt they were very 2nd rate, highly overrated, and i took two and a half in a night. i defo would not do those again it all seemed a bit ot much of an effort. the grey crystal was unpredictable. spookily heavy, think what bearlove said sedating was best way to describe it. there was some md side effects but it definitley did not feel right. it felt like it hadnt been made properly or there was something else in the background masking the real feeling. im defo not doing that again now, ive given it the benefit of the doubt a couple of times and something didnt feel right about it, and i dont drink alcohol or take anything else while on an md high at all, i like it how it is
 
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ive only tried the pink diamonds and the grey crystal. and ive left a 6 month gap inbetween cause i dont like taking drugs very often anymore. i believe they was the real deal. i didnt have a problem with the diamonds but again MY opinions i felt they were very 2nd rate, highly overrated, and i took two and a half in a night. i defo would not do those again it all seemed a bit ot much of an effort. the grey crystal was unpredictable. spookily heavy, think what bearlove said sedating was best way to describe it. there was some md side effects but it definitley did not feel right. it felt like it hadnt been made properly or there was something else in the background masking the real feeling. im defo not doing that again now, ive given it the benefit of the doubt a couple of times and something didnt feel right about it, and i dont drink alcohol or take anything else while on an md high at all, i like it how it is
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I think it's possible the MDMA you tried is adulterated. Everyone said the grey stuff was shit, even those who think other MDMA is good.

I suspect the Diamonds were just too weak and you didn't get the kick. I think you would need two each hit and probably need 5-6 to get a good ride all night.
 
lol. i suspect so. i always love md in a 200 mg dose, but im just so warey now i dont do it. gone our the days for me where i used to double drop and all that, even if maths tells me each one contains 100 mgs say for example. im always taking into consideration what may be that other 300 mgs of anoynmous powder im putting inside me. it should be harmles but who the hell knows quite frankly. im really a different kind of drug consumer now to what i used to be many years ago. problem i have is there trying to make a two tier market, but the quality just doesnt justify it to me. theyve got a bit of a cheek imo
 
@deedee i went to my first rave on white cali's and remember this track from that night. It ws up in N london I think in a massive warehouse one of the early team,s running it _ cant remember the name of it .Cali's. white burgers yellow burgers doves....use to take 1/2 a pill and would be sweating and freaking drop th eother 1/2 and in bliss never tookk mor etham 3-4 pills over 12 hours didnt need to an d was still buzzing th enext day
 
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@deedee i went to my first rave on white cali's and remember this track from that night. It ws up in N london I think in a massive warehouse one of the early team,s running it _ cant remember the name of it .Cali's. white burgers yellow burgers doves....use to take 1/2 a pill and would be sweating and freaking drop th eother 1/2 and in bliss never tookk mor etham 3-4 pills over 12 hours didnt need to an d was still buzzing th enext day
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yeah i remember this tune so well from that night :) those white calis and burgers where like phwooaar. they were so much more hallucnigenic and dreamy back then. things have changed. thats why i no what ive tried so far is not right. its ncie to no somone else actually was there experiencing it to%) did u ever go to the dungeons in lea bridge road?
 
Yeah. I think you can still have a good experience when your older if you kep it all in perspective and don't expect too much, but your right. As we grow older we take more care. Partly why it was so fun when we were all young is that we were taking risks. I remember the first time I did an E I totally shit myself when I was coming up cos of scare story's etc. I think I thought I was having a heart attack but then it settled down and I had a great time! But yeah that's weird as well cos no one even knew the long term effects just like now with RC's
 
This is all I've been saying all along. NEVER believe what it says on the tin. If it's good for you then great. I however it just doesn't tick all the boxes.
I'm not getting involved in any more argueing as it bores me senceless now but be careful this Xmas everyone.
I never listened to this advice when I was younger but then again I was always lucky.
 
missing old pills said:
This is all I've been saying all along. NEVER believe what it says on the tin. If it's good for you then great. I however it just doesn't tick all the boxes.
I'm not getting involved in any more argueing as it bores me senceless now but be careful this Xmas everyone.
I never listened to this advice when I was younger but then again I was always lucky.
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No need to argue, just to speak calmly.

Do you think you may have only tried this dodgy stuff too like dee dee?

Just makes so much sense to me. I think everyone assumed you guys were taking the same stuff hence the arguments.

I think we all underestimated the fakers.
 
had 2 pink diamonds in a club last night in belfast, what a fucking night. i was clean off my rocker. still buzzing thinking about it. best night i've had out in maybe a decade. i was on the dancefloor the whole night. first time on the diamonds while out, and they really came into they're own then. there was a big fight outside the nightclub at the end and instead of my usual wading into fuck i stood there smacked to fuck thinking 'what to fuck'.
went on the drink when i got up at 2pm and getting a pretty nice afterglow. don't feel sick or fucked up in the head at all.
fucking clean as fuck pills.
i remember at one stage walking past 2 bouncers and i could see 4 of them and thinking to myself they're bound to know lol.
i remember also asking a girl if she was wiped out and she said no, you fucking are, look at the state of you.
GOOD times
 
adam phinel said:
No need to argue, just to speak calmly.

Do you think you may have only tried this dodgy stuff too like dee dee?

Just makes so much sense to me. I think everyone assumed you guys were taking the same stuff hence the arguments.

I think we all underestimated the fakers.
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Well according to some dee dee and I are the same person!
However if you would like to believe that we're not and that we both do have over 20 years experence of loving and taking xtc and would dearly like to take some nice stuff again then you need to bear in mind I live in Stockport and he lives in London. The chances of us having the same stuff is slim.
We are not hell bent on ruining everyones ecstasy experences we just know what's what.
I have made many claims on here of which I retracted due to evidence well presented.
That's all!
 
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