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We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks
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adam phinel
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As is most of what humans speak about. If you stop speculating and guessing or having ideas about subjects thers not much left to talk about?
Well I suppose we could always discuss my etchings?
Hardcore MDMAster
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Maybe so but in this case I dont need to speculate or guess i just need to read a test result, and go off what feelings it produces when i take it.
mattnotrik
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Yeah exactly^^
The speculation about the green stars thread had a good 10 pages of "Speculation" and of arguments much similar to this topic and other topics, every person thinks that they are RIGHT. The whole 10 pages of argument was put to bed in seconds with some solid FACTS and test results.
When they are proved wrong, they close there mouth for a little while, then slowly come back, hmm reminds me of someone, and hes still at it!
The speculation about the green stars thread had a good 10 pages of "Speculation" and of arguments much similar to this topic and other topics, every person thinks that they are RIGHT. The whole 10 pages of argument was put to bed in seconds with some solid FACTS and test results.
When they are proved wrong, they close there mouth for a little while, then slowly come back, hmm reminds me of someone, and hes still at it!
adam phinel
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Yeah your right. It was full of same old shit, it drove me off BL for a while. But I'm bored now so I was partaking in the same old shit too 
LOL Captain, you're about 12 years old, and you're at a stage in your life where you think that all drugs are amazing. You seem to take about 10 different drugs every weekend, and I've yet to hear you say that any of the drugs you take are anything less than amazing, which is remarkable given the appalling quality of most drugs in the UK (not that you'd know that, because you've never experienced anything different).
You talk so much bullshit it's unreal. You keep claiming you've had pills that have been labtested as this, and pills that have been labtested as that, when what you actually mean is that a similar looking pill has been labtested in the Netherlands, and you just assume the ones you buy up in sunny Scotland are the same. You must be every drug dealer's dream - they can sell you whatever they want, call it whatever they want to call it, and chances are you'll think it's amazing whatever it is. Hell, if it gives you eye-wobbles, jaw-clenching, and deep breaths, it must be good, right?
captain codshit
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I've done blue mitsu triangles in holland tested as 135-170mgs. And had 20 diff MDMA pills from 2008 to 2009 on pill report, when most were in "the drought" think that says enough. Some were stronger mg than others, some were cleaner, granted. Those smilies you said were the last real pills were one of the weakest of the lot, although nice.
If you read the description of the MDMA in the regional thread believe me it was better than any of those pills.
They were better when they had MDA in them up til those cherries in 07. But the MDMA now is as good as any MDMA pill I've had.
Maybe they were better 20years ago but the crystal now is as good as any in the last 5 years I have done.
Of course there will be pills that come out and are lethal, then new batch is half as strong or cut. Good reps are copied obviously.
That about sums it up on the matter IMO.
If you read the description of the MDMA in the regional thread believe me it was better than any of those pills.
They were better when they had MDA in them up til those cherries in 07. But the MDMA now is as good as any MDMA pill I've had.
Maybe they were better 20years ago but the crystal now is as good as any in the last 5 years I have done.
Of course there will be pills that come out and are lethal, then new batch is half as strong or cut. Good reps are copied obviously.
That about sums it up on the matter IMO.
badandwicked
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lol, bringin' it.
missing old pills
Bluelighter
I've looked at the green star report and came back with some solid facts.
The only come back I've had is that I'm talking shite.
Can I have some solid facts back please
The only come back I've had is that I'm talking shite.
Can I have some solid facts back please
mattnotrik
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MDMA Head, from experience what country has good drugs?
Places like America?? Where the BEST ecstacy pills they can find are tested at 90-100mg MDMA and its all they rave about, alot of there pills contain 5% mdma 95% piperazine just because they know people will test them, and they get alot of speed/mdma combos?
Australia where 90% of the ecstacy pills are adulterated with new research chemicals or just blatent non active pills, and mdma is in almost extinct.
Eastern Europe? Almost no mdma at all, more speed pills than youd like to know about??
Maybe Africa where mdma pills are also hardly available, alot of non active and bunk pills and almost no scene to go with it?
Asia used to have a good pill scene, now unfortuantley its nothing like it used to be, a big clamp down on dealers, good mdma pills there are hard to find..
So id say in the current situation the UK and Holland probally have it best at the moment, obviously with Holland leading. There are ALOT of mdma pills on offer at the moment, alot more than any other country. Id hardly say "all" drugs in the UK are shite, alot are yes, but compared to other countries we have it very very good.
Not trying to start some argument, but it just seems MDMAhead, whatever anyone says if your not getting it its not good, or you dont agree with anything unless it comes out your own mouth???
Places like America?? Where the BEST ecstacy pills they can find are tested at 90-100mg MDMA and its all they rave about, alot of there pills contain 5% mdma 95% piperazine just because they know people will test them, and they get alot of speed/mdma combos?
Australia where 90% of the ecstacy pills are adulterated with new research chemicals or just blatent non active pills, and mdma is in almost extinct.
Eastern Europe? Almost no mdma at all, more speed pills than youd like to know about??
Maybe Africa where mdma pills are also hardly available, alot of non active and bunk pills and almost no scene to go with it?
Asia used to have a good pill scene, now unfortuantley its nothing like it used to be, a big clamp down on dealers, good mdma pills there are hard to find..
So id say in the current situation the UK and Holland probally have it best at the moment, obviously with Holland leading. There are ALOT of mdma pills on offer at the moment, alot more than any other country. Id hardly say "all" drugs in the UK are shite, alot are yes, but compared to other countries we have it very very good.
Not trying to start some argument, but it just seems MDMAhead, whatever anyone says if your not getting it its not good, or you dont agree with anything unless it comes out your own mouth???
missing old pills
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Good for you pal! There is no need to argue it's a discussion.
What evidence is there of our pills being anywhere near 100mg?
Looking like a Dutch pill is not evidence.
Also you find alot of Dutch on pillreports questioning the amounts and calling them dealer reports.
Until we have this evidence I trust my own experience.
Thanks to a stupid DEA law until the UK gets it's own testing facility we're in the dark
mattnotrik
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DEA in the UK? I thought the DEA was the americas drug inforcement agency? surely they dont rule the UK laws?
I know what your saying mate, but i was just purely saying we have it alot better than most places. Holland has it best, so comparing it to that dosent really fit.
I know what your saying mate, but i was just purely saying we have it alot better than most places. Holland has it best, so comparing it to that dosent really fit.
missing old pills
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You misunderstood me mate. The DEA ruling I'm refering to is that ecstasydata.org are not allowed to display how much in mg the pill or loose power contains. They did this to stop dealers using it as an advertising board to boast how strong their pills were. All it's done is open it to be fooled by only now being able to show a ratio of active compounds.
For example a pill weighing 300 mg could have 100 mg MDMA in and 50 mg mda.
It would show up as MDMA 2 mda 1.
If that same pill turned up and was tested and it contained 10mg of MDMA and 5 mg of mda it would test as an identical pill.
So they have handed it to a dealer on a plate.
Low overheads maximum profits!
Great for the economics and great for harm reduction but shit for our clubs,music,art and fashion scene
Faith is knowing there is an ocean just because you've seen a stream!
Crack4Lyfe
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I think the posters who are concerned about the loss of magic or adulterants in their pills should basically just stop taking them. It is obvious that the only way they will be content is if each pill is individually tested for mg content and the synth route used. Also the binder and any other ingredients should also be individually tested with maybe an attached print out of results (this will help them tailor a allergy test on any adulterants prior to taking the pill).
Meanwhile the rest of us can have an educated punt and try them. This will be done by a number ways. Asking people you know about them, coming on here and PR and seeing the views of people who know what they are talking about (you know who you are) smell, taste and nowadays price. If we then think things are stacking up we will put it in our mouth and swallow the fucker. That is when years of experience will come into play and then you can make an informed choice.
And guess what? There is still a slight risk that it might be shit. If it is you won't take them again. Simple. Now I hate to go back on to the green stars buy they are THE example of someone refusing to believe the FACTS. I knew they were MDMA all day long. They were. End of discussion.
IMO some people are blaming the MDMA being shit. I have cained it for over 20yrs and I still enjoy it to this day. Am I going round with a constant smile on my face swapping numbers with lads from fuckin grimsby? No. But it's still fuckin enjoyable. Nothing will ever be the same as the first few times.
And if you can't get your head around this concept or you fear for your health because you didn't see then actual pill being made, then you need to pack in.
Seriously.
Meanwhile the rest of us can have an educated punt and try them. This will be done by a number ways. Asking people you know about them, coming on here and PR and seeing the views of people who know what they are talking about (you know who you are) smell, taste and nowadays price. If we then think things are stacking up we will put it in our mouth and swallow the fucker. That is when years of experience will come into play and then you can make an informed choice.
And guess what? There is still a slight risk that it might be shit. If it is you won't take them again. Simple. Now I hate to go back on to the green stars buy they are THE example of someone refusing to believe the FACTS. I knew they were MDMA all day long. They were. End of discussion.
IMO some people are blaming the MDMA being shit. I have cained it for over 20yrs and I still enjoy it to this day. Am I going round with a constant smile on my face swapping numbers with lads from fuckin grimsby? No. But it's still fuckin enjoyable. Nothing will ever be the same as the first few times.
And if you can't get your head around this concept or you fear for your health because you didn't see then actual pill being made, then you need to pack in.
Seriously.
captain codshit
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Exactly Quad, why keep taking them and then moan it's shit and your not enjoying it. Find something better to do if that's the case. MDMA is not the be all and end all of drugs. 2c-i is pretty like MDMA with the empathy, a bit more trippy, same kind of levels of bodyload and stimulation. Worth a try in my experiance. Also there are some other RC combo's reported to be very similar to the MDMA type rush/empathy/magic. 150mg methylone and 150mg mephedrone was pretty close, but I'm not too keen on the cathinone family these days, comedown from hell and generally feel unhealthy.
What bugs me is you's just don't listen to science or reason. And then you come out with petty shite like calling me a 12 year old, lol. Has it ever occured to you that I'm young, likeable, go to all the right social events and understand how it works. Just between pictures I've posted on here most people with half a brain realise I know what I am looking for and have had some rare delights.
You on the other hand are probably that sad twat who didn't know when to move on and find something else you enjoy to do. I could go further but I don't really like to personally insult people in an argument, it proves you've already lost as you've nothing of substance to say.
What bugs me is you's just don't listen to science or reason. And then you come out with petty shite like calling me a 12 year old, lol. Has it ever occured to you that I'm young, likeable, go to all the right social events and understand how it works. Just between pictures I've posted on here most people with half a brain realise I know what I am looking for and have had some rare delights.
You on the other hand are probably that sad twat who didn't know when to move on and find something else you enjoy to do. I could go further but I don't really like to personally insult people in an argument, it proves you've already lost as you've nothing of substance to say.
joe90
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good response...
A dog chasing its tail comes to mind... I have known plenty of people who even 15 years said its not as good as it used to be and when they took the same good pills as everyone else analysed the night away.We all had a good night but they were clearly off their heads but moaned all night.the drug triggers a feeling inside you.Some people would need a nuclear bomb to let go and become empathetic again.One word
Psychosomatic.
Make friends with the drug dealer in your brain first as its he who releases you, you cant rely on a tablet to do that everytime.
good response...
A dog chasing its tail comes to mind... I have known plenty of people who even 15 years said its not as good as it used to be and when they took the same good pills as everyone else analysed the night away.We all had a good night but they were clearly off their heads but moaned all night.the drug triggers a feeling inside you.Some people would need a nuclear bomb to let go and become empathetic again.One word
Psychosomatic.
Make friends with the drug dealer in your brain first as its he who releases you, you cant rely on a tablet to do that everytime.
well, i cant speak for anyone else CC, but for me personally. ive always agreed that this new wave of md is md. if thats harm reduction and thats what people are looking for, they want md then im really happy that theyve found it again. ive never considered swapping drugs for others, i no what i like, and i always will in regards to expermineting with other drugs.
i move on all the time, ive taken md three or four times this year, and only had the intentions of taking md a couple more times than that in the last 3 or 4 years. thats not alot im sure youll agree, and we all no the reasons as to why so.
now, i feel my personal opinions are as valied as the next person whether they be backed up with science or not tbh.
i represent a whole load of people out there, just like me, who have no test kits, who are more than likely even more regular than me, doing things like checking PR and coming on here, then while out and about intentionally headhunting gear based on what they believe to be reccomendation, all be it just what they see online, or whispers they hear from people.
thats not to say the products vie tried do not test up as being md, im reasonably sure they do, and im not interested in contradicting science, although it appears certain types of other people are more than happy to try and contradict my opinions for some strange reason.
the pink diamonds i tried were in june, right at the very beginning when they first appeared as far as im aware on pr, i may be wrong there, and i thought id treat myself and go out one night and stumbled across them by accident and was well chuffed. its possble they were copycats but i doubt it. i was content for a little bit but in hindsight the ones i tried were not all that either, although i suspect if i was more into it all now id probally go out for a month every weekedn on them till i knocked it on the head and had a break again, if thats the best i could find.
when i went on pr and voiced my opinions that i thought the ones i had tried were ok, but a bit 2nd rate also, up somone pops 5 mins later telling me theres a 2nd new batch just come out higher dose md. u get where im coming from now?
people will defend there products to the max imo it would appear and go to any length to do so.
The whole system is flawed, and completley open to abuse on every level going. and as i am one of those normal members of the public who has contributed 22 years in hard earned cash being a consumer and also risking my health, and yes for good times to ive got my fair share of what ive wanted out of the relationship ive had withy the industry all the time, then i feel im more than entitlted to be about, contributing as when i feel like it.
im sure the industry would love people like me to just shrug my shoulders. i dread to think how much money theyve made out of me in two decades, but while im still interested in the magic of mdma and mda i guess ill always be around, even if its just reminiscing in the past or having a laugh or joke or checking out whats going on in the world
i move on all the time, ive taken md three or four times this year, and only had the intentions of taking md a couple more times than that in the last 3 or 4 years. thats not alot im sure youll agree, and we all no the reasons as to why so.
now, i feel my personal opinions are as valied as the next person whether they be backed up with science or not tbh.
i represent a whole load of people out there, just like me, who have no test kits, who are more than likely even more regular than me, doing things like checking PR and coming on here, then while out and about intentionally headhunting gear based on what they believe to be reccomendation, all be it just what they see online, or whispers they hear from people.
thats not to say the products vie tried do not test up as being md, im reasonably sure they do, and im not interested in contradicting science, although it appears certain types of other people are more than happy to try and contradict my opinions for some strange reason.
the pink diamonds i tried were in june, right at the very beginning when they first appeared as far as im aware on pr, i may be wrong there, and i thought id treat myself and go out one night and stumbled across them by accident and was well chuffed. its possble they were copycats but i doubt it. i was content for a little bit but in hindsight the ones i tried were not all that either, although i suspect if i was more into it all now id probally go out for a month every weekedn on them till i knocked it on the head and had a break again, if thats the best i could find.
when i went on pr and voiced my opinions that i thought the ones i had tried were ok, but a bit 2nd rate also, up somone pops 5 mins later telling me theres a 2nd new batch just come out higher dose md. u get where im coming from now?
people will defend there products to the max imo it would appear and go to any length to do so.
The whole system is flawed, and completley open to abuse on every level going. and as i am one of those normal members of the public who has contributed 22 years in hard earned cash being a consumer and also risking my health, and yes for good times to ive got my fair share of what ive wanted out of the relationship ive had withy the industry all the time, then i feel im more than entitlted to be about, contributing as when i feel like it.
im sure the industry would love people like me to just shrug my shoulders. i dread to think how much money theyve made out of me in two decades, but while im still interested in the magic of mdma and mda i guess ill always be around, even if its just reminiscing in the past or having a laugh or joke or checking out whats going on in the world
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^^ im sure the industry would love people like me to just shrug my shoulders. i dread to think how much money theyve made out of me in two decades ^^
The risks go both ways though don't they. As long as drugs remain illegal it will always be this way. The only other option is to look into setting your own illicit lab up.
The regulations and guarantees you seem to be insisting upon are, unfortunately, impossible. The makers and dealers take huge risks. We take risks on the product. It's the way it is.
The risks go both ways though don't they. As long as drugs remain illegal it will always be this way. The only other option is to look into setting your own illicit lab up.
The regulations and guarantees you seem to be insisting upon are, unfortunately, impossible. The makers and dealers take huge risks. We take risks on the product. It's the way it is.
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