Yeah I was a really big fan of mushrooms. They were legal in the UK from 2004-2007 so I was tripping every week. Combining them with moclobemide for shroomhuasca. Really big doses too - 15 dried grams. My tolerance for psilocybin/DMT probably isn't as big as it was then but I can still eat upwards of 400mg and still be up dancing and giggling to myself.
☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Over the counter “Amanita Gummies” contain 4-aco-dmt
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Yeah I was a really big fan of mushrooms. They were legal in the UK from 2004-2007 so I was tripping every week. Combining them with moclobemide for shroomhuasca. Really big doses too - 15 dried grams. My tolerance for psilocybin/DMT probably isn't as big as it was then but I can still eat upwards of 400mg and still be up dancing and giggling to myself.
they outlawed libs? 
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Yeah mushrooms are class A
Realistically, you're probably not going to get into much bother for picking some in a field
Ismeme2, what does 100mg of 4-ACO-DMT feel like to you? That's a pretty big dose
Realistically, you're probably not going to get into much bother for picking some in a field
Ismeme2, what does 100mg of 4-ACO-DMT feel like to you? That's a pretty big dose
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irl friend got community service last year after being arrested leaving the field with around 300 libs on him
an opportunist arrest - if they get the opportunity they will take it, outside of the cities for sure
It sounds like you have some metabolic quirk here. On zero tolerance I can eat half a gram of THC and feel fucking amazing, never made me anxious once. My mother and brother are the same way, often metabolic features are hereditary.
How would you describe psilohuasca? I used to fuck with it when I was deep into ayahuasca but found it inferior to lysergahuasca. I loved that it could last 10-12 hours though, removed the constant compulsion to redose that I get from mushrooms.
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Half a g of thc (so, lets say an edible made from 2g high quality weed)? or do you mean 0.5g weed or hash?
If the former well, that's one hell of a dose! 10% of that eaten would have me super stoned for 5 or 6 hours and I'm a lifetimer.
I don't think 500mg thc would make me anxious though - just abolutely beyond high, perhaps uncomfortably so dunno...the thought of it does not appeal at all and I truly loves me cannabis
I did once eat a whole 3.5g of just-purchased pretty good squidgy black hash in my early 30's once though (thanks very fucking much to the cops...pulled me over a few seconds after I drove off after scoring, was certain to be searched so I ate the lot, he just told me to get a break light fixed and sent me on my way. It wasn't decarbed so I thought it wouldnlt be much of an issue - wrong! Got home, laughed my ass off for an hour or 2 and then spent the next 24 hours or so in/out of sleep or hyper-drowsiness, unable to even speak as too much effort, had loads important stuff to do which I obvs could not do...the mrs was fukkin fuming, ahem. Makes me wonder if the whole decarbing thing is as important as believed - I was FUCKED lol
I'm taking half a gram of pure crystalline THCa diamonds I decarbed and put in a gel cap haha, it's my preferred way to make edibles that isn't just hash rosin. THC-PO acetate at ~250mg orally with a huge tolerance kept me in like, spice overdose mode I'd say for a few days straight. I've smoked spice too, love that shit. THC-PO at that dose orally though will end up killing people I promise you, somebody eventually will fuck up and not make it through that.Half a g of thc (so, lets say an edible made from 2g high quality weed)? or do you mean 0.5g weed or hash?
If the former well, that's one hell of a dose! 10% of that eaten would have me super stoned for 5 or 6 hours and I'm a lifetimer.
I don't think 500mg thc would make me anxious though - just abolutely beyond high, perhaps uncomfortably so dunno...the thought of it does not appeal at all and I truly loves me cannabis
I did once eat a whole 3.5g of just-purchased pretty good squidgy black hash in my early 30's once though (thanks very fucking much to the cops...pulled me over a few seconds after I drove off after scoring, was certain to be searched so I ate the lot, he just told me to get a break light fixed and sent me on my way. It wasn't decarbed so I thought it wouldnlt be much of an issue - wrong! Got home, laughed my ass off for an hour or 2 and then spent the next 24 hours or so in/out of sleep or hyper-drowsiness, unable to even speak as too much effort, had loads important stuff to do which I obvs could not do...the mrs was fukkin fuming, ahem. Makes me wonder if the whole decarbing thing is as important as believed - I was FUCKED lol
Many of these over the counter fake amanita gummies contain random altnoids, and given that most are made to subvert chemical bans, eventually people will start making REALLY heady gas station drugs. I think it was "Uncle Frog" brand gummies that poisoned a bunch of people in Australia, with an altnoid I've only seen in Europe, "THO". Not THC-O, but a close Elaine of H4CBD and ∆9 it seems? Idk much about it yet but it seems deeply underresearched. I find the concept of "gas station drugs" super funny, I got annihilated recently by a 7-OH-Mitragynine pill while picking up vape juice.
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A friend showed me these gummies from a (seemingly) big Canadian company that claim to be made with "psilocybe cubensis". I have extremely strong doubts and assume that it's 4-aco-dmt or something else...
One red flag from their info: "The effects can last anywhere from 1-2 hours rather than the usual 5-6 hours." Anyone know what that's all about? I don't even know of any RC tryptamines that would fit and pass as mushrooms...
One red flag from their info: "The effects can last anywhere from 1-2 hours rather than the usual 5-6 hours." Anyone know what that's all about? I don't even know of any RC tryptamines that would fit and pass as mushrooms...
Someone mentioned word/speculation that a lot of the amanita products in the US contain 4-HO-DET, not 4-AcO-DMT as originally speculated.
My experience with one of those products was consistent with that. A large dose produced a 2-3 hour trip, which was more intense, yet shorter than psilacetin (4-AcO) or psilocin. Certainly a synthetic tryptamine. But not 4-AcO.
@Listening also wanted to mention that I am referring to sketchy pseduo-legal smoke shop products in the US that are being advertised as Amanita Muscaria, but it's really just a gummy with synthetic tryptamines inside... which is actually kinda worse than just selling gourmet mushrooms with some synthetic tryptamine infused and then calling it legal psilocybe mushrooms.
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Fascinating. These companies make me angry. My friend was all excited to show me what he got but I think I'm going to dissuade him. Not a good idea to take an unknown chemical IMHO.
It's also frustrating that the FTIR testing that I have access to can't handle gummies (I think). Really curious to test them.
I've yet to sample the ethocin (4-HO-DET) that I'm sitting on, but I'll give you this, while taking mysterious gas station drugs of questionable dosage, purity, and quality is essentially never wise, I'd MUCH rather end up eating 4-AcO-DMT or its DET homologue than ending up with one of those counterfeit Tianeptine liquid shots that contained fatal amounts of MDMB-4en-PINACA alongside bromazolam. Even if the spice was in a safe dose, the bromazolam likely incapacitated people from being able to receive adequate medical assistance.
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As someone who works in a testing lab, and is very well aquainted with the analytical testing community, I have never seen or heard of a cannabinoid being found in an amanita product.
Not saying it hasn't happened, but I would say your statement is misinformation.
I've said this multiple times www.tryptomics.com can test gummies and they accept mail in submissisions. The only thing is they use HPLC so they aren't really able to identify unknowns. They have quite a few of the synthetic tryptamine standards though.
That said, I'm good friends with them and my lab has a GC so sometimes we trade samples if they can't identify a compound.
I'd actually love to hear your report if you dip your toes into it, so I may compare it to my own presumed experience with it.
It was one of the more interesting tryptamines I've tried. It actually felt like a great middle ground between DMT and psilocin, both figuratively and literally. Both in mental effect, physical effect, and side effects. I recall it giving an extremely euphoric and pleasant afterglow between 4-12 hours after initial dose-- which I do not typically experience from tryptamines, particularly DMT type tryptamines.
I kept those gummies around for a reason. Eventually I imagine I'll try them again... but I am still very partial to my lysergies over tryptamines.
I think I may eat a few about 6 hours into, or 1 hour before an LSD trip, and see what happens.
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It's noticeably shorter than other tryptamines IME. Wasn't particularily visual, and it had a strong tryptamine body buzz. Was nice, but mainly because of duration.
With my experience, from about T+60-120 min, I had extremely vivid DMT like CEVs... but then they suddenly stopped. Blurry and less defined, but also profound and reminiscent of a sub-breakthrough DMT experience. They were flower, chrysanthemum shaped, as McKenna describes it. A feature I've only seen from DMT itself.
And yeah, the body load was probably the worst side effect for me.
However, the OEVs were nearly exactly the same as a moderate 3-5g mushroom dose, nothing special, actually underwhelming. Basic perceptial distortions.
As I recall I also had very large amounts of alcohol and cannabis in my system as well, so take it for what it's worth.
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I would agree to this. OEVs were minimal, just kinda wavey. Off topic but I'm getting a bunch of DET soon, so Ill be able to report on that in a few weeks.
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Thank you for that. Unfortunately I don't have that much extra cash to spare at the moment for that test, but will consider.
Depends on the quality of the 4-aco. The good 4-aco which was available in Europe 4 or 5 years ago was tremendous. Pure white - when you ate 100mg of that you were up dancing feeling fantastic and the psychedelic effects were staggering - as good as ayahuasca but with it's own beautiful twist on it. After a year or two the good 4-aco vanished and you just got this shit grey coloured 4-aco which is the same garbage you buy today. WIth that grey shit if you eat a big dose you have to vomit and there's terrible nausea so I had to stop taking it then.
But yeah - the good stuff you can eat pretty much endlessly. I used to get through close to half a gram over the course of a day.
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so, the 'gas station drugs' are fully legal yeah?
so...must be subject to some regulation no? or is it a free for all?
am I missing something here?
so...must be subject to some regulation no? or is it a free for all?
am I missing something here?