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Wanting to try shrooms...

bnlmusicfan2

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I wanna try shrroms I have had some mental health issues in the past but are ALOT better as I am a firm believer in cbt/dbt thearpy and I can control my anxiety fairly well...but heres the deal I am parinod of anxiety as I had laced pot once...I smoke regualrly now... so not young and as dumb...So I want the vivid trip but not hallucinating bad...As I have done so due to pharmacuticals...I had seriotonin syndrome it sucked...so naturally when I think of hallucinating I am worried as I know drugs are different but I am alot more educated for the most part...I will be doing them with a close friend and they are experienced user. So I need some tips read trip reports but if lets say I do freak what is the duration of the trip usually and also would it be okay to take my prn klonopin on it or should I stick to straight pot with it insight is very appreciated.
thanks
 
Experiment at your own risk. Definatly have a few of your kpins close by. Pot makes the trip more intense but i still recommend it just for more of an experience since you'll probably want to take a low dose of the shrooms. The trip lasts about 4-6 hours but you will only be peaking for about 2-3 and if you make it through that you should be fine but if you really think your freakin out to the point you cant control yourself 2 mg of the kpin should bring you right down and you'll still be trippin without the anxiety.
 
I would not advise you to eat mushrooms if you are dealing with fear and anxiety.

However, if you must, you will probably have to lay off the clonazepam(klonopin) for 24 hours or so - BUT have them ready incase of the trip getting too insense; paranoia, fear, anxiety.

It isn't a good idea though..

//blazR
 
Please do NOT underestimate psilocybin mushrooms, because you have taken "legal" highs!

Which legal highs? Bathsalts even? :P

Be safe..
 
NO hard core anti psychs those meds are weird...trust me...Not underestimating in the least just am more phychologically prepared than I realized cause it is alot of self hypnosis action on a trip I am told if you do freak out...I have mellowed out so much its retarded...I was a hard core drunk forever...so I had halluc. coming off benders...sucked...I was the kid in hs so anti drug now I am intrested in the expereince it entails. Also I don't plan on any craziness with it just you live once theory going on here...
 
From my recent experience can I suggest 25c-Nbome? If you want the visuals and stuff... Shrooms like acid fuck with your thoughts ALOT! If you suffer with mental health issues I can only see these causing you more upset.
The Nbome's Iv tried 25i and 25c are both clear headed I think they would be good to start with on a low dose...
Just be VERY careful, start low, have a sitter and work your way up and FFS do as much research as possible first! :)
 
bnlmusicfan2, I understand your worries in worsening your anxiety by taking a Psychedelic trip. Though I personally have never had anxiety, two of my best friends have.
They both take Psilocybin mushrooms recreationally about once a month, and one has actually recently started growing home-grown shrooms.
My experience with them has been somewhat complicated. First off if you feel paranoid about it, do not take them. It is ESSENTIAL that if you choose to take shrooms you go in with a very relaxed happy attitude. I suggest absorbing some sunlight to get your endorphins going which will ease your mind. Take the shrooms when you are ready, and not before then.
While a shroom trip is often describes as intense, they are a slow peaking drug, It can take up to an hour and a half to peak, in which you will have time to adjust to the new feeling. After this you will have anywhere from an hour to 3 hour trip. I recommend having a benzo handy, like a valium or xanex. If you feel like you can no longer handle it and need to get out, take one of these and they will chill you out very quickly. You will come back down and be in a mellow mood again. Shrooms worst side effects are bad trips, and this can be avoided by ending the trip early.
Take them when you're well prepared and ready!
Good luck and I hope to hear of an enjoyable trip!
 
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I consider myself reasonably sane and rational, very stable mentally, no huge hang ups, no bad skeletons in the mind and a very experienced tripper and meditator... but I am still scared shitless every time I do mushrooms (and I do them a lot), I'm not saying don't do them, just don't underestimate just how weird things can get.
 
A trip can go in many directions, but I haev had moments during some 3.5g+ mushroom trips that I felt better than I have on any drug, even suepr good mdma, heroin, etc.. Even my 'bad' trips are good ones. I've realized that even if it seemed bad at the moment looking back on my trips they are always just such a superb experience.

The only time I even had anything I would call bad was if I was in the wrong setting/. Like for instance not around strangers, or people you are not comfortable with. Or if there is some serious stuff gonig on in my life. I remember when I was having some trouble iwth my dad, I had a horrible convo with him and tripped right after, the whoel trip I thought about my dad etc.. even cried, but it was a good experience looking back. I kidn fo sorted out the way I felt.

That being said just like webbkevni says do not underestimate mushrooms. People cal it a trip for a reason. You leave this world for the mushroom world. Befoer I ever 'tripped' I thought that word was corny. After my first 1/8th mushroom trip I realized what that meant lol.

Also do not think you can just 'end' your trip whenever you want like Trick509 said. Yes benzos might calm you down if your having a panic attack ro something. but you are not switching off your mushroom trip like a light lol. If you are in the peak of a heavy mushroom trip even a fuckload of benzos probably couldn't put you to sleep lol.

I personalyl have realized I prefer to trip alone. Or only with someone I truely feel comfortable around. You do not want to put your self in any situations that would normally cause you anxiety. Like tripping with a girl on your first date or somethign lol. Worst thing I ever did was the 2nd time I tripped. The 1st was so much fun, I kind of forgot/'didnt realize how much shrooms disconnects you from normal communication.I thought it woudl be fun tot rip at a party with a few friends whre everyone else was just drinking/smoking and I had a horrible time. Aside from the few people I was with I didn't know anyone, and it's just hard to take facial clues etc.. like normally you can talk to someoen and get a feel for if they are interested, sad, mad, etc.. but on mushrooms I find it utterly impossible to connect.

If tyou are having a bad trip just cxhange the scenery. You would be surprised how much simply going in from teh dark to a light room, or rolling down your tinted windows to let the sun in, or changin the music etc.. can chang eyouer mood. For me my moods are like amplified and change at the drop of a hat. I can eb walking down the street and as soon as I go under a street light euphoria overtakes me, then I go back int eh dark and itsearie, creepy, etc..

I love tripping in forests but wherver you go, you do not want to have to worry about cops or strangers. If you live with parents, don't expect to be able to play it off adn talk to them like normal.
 
with mushrooms i always go into it ready to hallucinate and ready to take in every thing and anything the mushrooms will do to me which is a variety of things(probably the most from any other psychedelic i have tried really), when i go into it wanting it to be a certain way specifically they usually show me something different.

i would start with .3 of a gram let it set in and move up to another .3 if you feel comfortable, wait a bit see how you feel and if you feel confident be patient eat another .3 and wait a while and see how you fee and if you feel that you want more eat some more but be careful you cant take em out your stomach, spacing it out wont be as intense as dosing all at once but its easier for you to test the waters slowly. i was really terrified of mushrooms at one point after a scary experience with them and a couple weeks later went into it open and accepting what ever, slowly munched on 4gs started with .25 moved up to .5 then ate 1.25 when those hit i finished my bag was ready to go as far as i could with what i had was a excellent experience one of my most rewarding experiences with mushrooms.

only "bad" times with mushrooms was taking to much in uncomfortable settings and eating them on a mdma comedown which made me have a panic attack.

try to make sure your in a comfortable setting, make sure you have time for the experience. happy/safe shrooming if you choose to do them! mushrooms are awesome imo.
 
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I consider myself reasonably sane and rational, very stable mentally, no huge hang ups, no bad skeletons in the mind and a very experienced tripper and meditator... but I am still scared shitless every time I do mushrooms (and I do them a lot), I'm not saying don't do them, just don't underestimate just how weird things can get.

+1

I also find shrooms very edgy and get anxious, even on a VERY small dose.
As for the 'slow peak' someone mentioned, i find the exact opposite. I also find it comes in waves, which can give you a chance to gather your thoughts during the trip.
 
yeh I dunno what that slow peak stuff is all about either, when the first wave hits its like a 10 ton red silk jellyfish just landed on you, whammo !,, nowhere to run lol.


having said all that, the mushroom is usually very kind to beginners, so keep the dose moderate to low, 3.5 gramms dried maximum, i'd be inclined to go with 2 gramms first if i was the OP, just to test the water.

And don't sully the experience with benzos, just sit down, shut up and hang on Hanna, as Mckenna would say.
 
Yeh as mentioned if it does start going bad, a well lit room and stick the tv on, (not on some dark thriller or horror tho) Iv had a bad trip when I couldn't change my surroundings! Be and stay in control :)
 
I dont get how any drug woudl come in waves. Youp take it, your body processes it. It's not like your stomach says hey let me set aside 1 g that i'll digest a few hours later. Like yeah I took shrooms and all of a sudden at 4 hours 30 minutes it started getting stronger then 1 hour later is was weaker then all of a sudden stronger. LOL wtf.


Yeh as mentioned if it does start going bad, a well lit room and stick the tv on, (not on some dark thriller or horror tho) Iv had a bad trip when I couldn't change my surroundings! Be and stay in control :)

This is totally accurate. That's all it takes to change the direction of your trip, change of scenery. If you feel weird go outside int he sun, or pop on a light. I like setting up christmas lights in my room or something before I trip.. then I make them blink mad quick and put on some good music. Sometimes it's like the christmas lights sync up to teh song magically loll
 
I dont get how any drug woudl come in waves. Youp take it, your body processes it. It's not like your stomach says hey let me set aside 1 g that i'll digest a few hours later. Like yeah I took shrooms and all of a sudden at 4 hours 30 minutes it started getting stronger then 1 hour later is was weaker then all of a sudden stronger. LOL wtf.

Take shrooms then report back !
 
Slightly off-topic but you say you had laced weed once - how do you know it was laced? It is extremely uncommon for anyone to ever lace your weed without warning you first (as it's very expensive and so of course they'd want to charge you for whatever else you're consuming). Anxiety is normal when you smoke too much weed, and weed can act like a very strong dissociative when too much is smoked with no tolerance, which leads to a lot of people assuming they smoked PCP-laced weed or something.

I've had an out-of-body experience in which I was flying and travelling through time on regular weed when I had low tolerance, and to date it was stronger than most of my psychedelic/dissociative experiences, though it has never happened again since my tolerance rose.

Anyway a little back on topic, mushroom and other psychedelic visuals are a lot more "fictional" feeling, objects warping, coloured overlays, seeing cartoon visions with closed eyes - so you don't have to worry about seeing people who aren't there and stuff.

If you decide to trip, start with a low dose like just 1g (or less if you have liberty caps or another very potent strain) to get a feel for the drug and see how well you react and how you feel on it. At higher doses there is a higher chance of anxiety and having an unpleasant trip, so don't jump in straight at the deep end.

I dont get how any drug woudl come in waves. Youp take it, your body processes it. It's not like your stomach says hey let me set aside 1 g that i'll digest a few hours later. Like yeah I took shrooms and all of a sudden at 4 hours 30 minutes it started getting stronger then 1 hour later is was weaker then all of a sudden stronger. LOL wtf.

I think there are a lot of factors involved, but for example mushrooms don't have an even concentration of active alkaloids throughout them, some parts of the mushroom will have more, some less, etc. So when you're digesting the mushrooms you'll occasionally get large bursts of Psilocybin and Psilocin being absorbed, while other times there will be much less.

It's also possible that different ratios of Psilocybin to Psilocin in different parts of the mushrooms lead to faster and slower metabolism of the Psilocybin into Psilocin, and different concentrations of each reaching the brain at different stages of the trip - creating "faster" and "slower" parts of the trip. Just theories, but there are many things that could explain these waves.

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Also, we have a First Time Mushrooms thread specifically for this subject, so me or another mod will merge this thread with that one once you've had a chance to reply :)
 
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