Fresco
Bluelighter
I was being sarcastic, bro.
Toronto is a very safe city (aside from a few gangbangers knocking each other off).
Cheers
EDIT: we have the same Bloods vs. Crips bullshit up here. Or as I call them, wannabe's
Vegas Mandalay Bay mass shooting / Gun Control 2017 Thread
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Toronto is a very safe city (aside from a few gangbangers knocking each other off).
Cheers
EDIT: we have the same Bloods vs. Crips bullshit up here. Or as I call them, wannabe's
Fresco
Bluelighter
So true.
There were 2 main reasons the Germans never conquered the Swiss.
One was because of the terrain (mountains are bitch to climb).
The 2nd reason was the Nazi's needed a place to stash their loot, and what better place then those good old Swiss bank accounts.
Can't go wrong there
Fresco
Bluelighter
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
Wait, which of those statements was the sarcastic one, and which the merely disingenuous?
Fresco
Bluelighter
Which one did you think??
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Aside from obnoxiously flaunting of their 'stacking chips' I have to admit the Bloods and Crips seem more polite in Canada than they are in the US. Guy in the first video was bragging about not having a gun too which wasn't gangsta at all. Oh, and I'm shocked they still have Blockbuster video in Toronto. That was kinda spooky, gave me chills.
Fresco
Bluelighter
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
Are you being sarcastic about the "gangbangers" too? Just a guy with chains like that jumping on the hood of some Toyota Camry, I figure it's a joke, but I just can't be sure with foreign humor.
Fresco
Bluelighter
aihfl
Bluelight Crew
Sadly, it's probably not a joke. Canada has real "gangstas" like they have coconut-palm lined beaches.
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
I don't know, what about that big maple syrup heist a few years ago? Wasn't that like millions of "dollars" of proprietary tree sap that someone just ran off with? It takes a serious criminal network to fence all that. I can see why you'd want an "AK-47 clone" to defend yourself.
House_Wren
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Messy democracy rocks!
I agree it’s thoroughly sloppy. I have no idea what kinds of laws, government programs or law enforcement approaches might reduce the probability of another Mandalay Bay, any more than I know how to prevent the next September 11. Seems the latest attack must trump all the previous ones for sheer horror, and no pun intended.
Las Vegas was the first mass shooting in news media to render me physically ill; I had to lie down Monday after learning about it. I just pray I’ll achieve enshrinement in my own coffin via a more peaceful route. At least gunfire and gore on American streets is exception, not rule as it is in some desperately poor countries. I am grateful for the life I can lead.
Modern mass democracies and republics don’t exist to solve problems. Instead, they allow for a large number of people to butt heads on each political issue in an effort to reach consensus or majority vote on it, in lieu of resolving such issues by having a few oligarchs decide it. A consensus which tends to be suboptimal and short of data backing it, nonetheless acceptable to most who must live under the resulting rules. Everyone gets to throw their ego around, you might say, instead of just a powerful, patrician few.
I agree it’s thoroughly sloppy. I have no idea what kinds of laws, government programs or law enforcement approaches might reduce the probability of another Mandalay Bay, any more than I know how to prevent the next September 11. Seems the latest attack must trump all the previous ones for sheer horror, and no pun intended.
Las Vegas was the first mass shooting in news media to render me physically ill; I had to lie down Monday after learning about it. I just pray I’ll achieve enshrinement in my own coffin via a more peaceful route. At least gunfire and gore on American streets is exception, not rule as it is in some desperately poor countries. I am grateful for the life I can lead.
Hey AlaisdairM and everybody else..... I know everybody is sick of hearing unproven conspiracy theories.... BUT i have a new video with NEW and compelling evidence! First off, you hear the shooter is literally over the head of this taxi driver , then about a min later you hear distant faint gunfire, (which is clearly not an echo) ....but more importantly the uploader of the video notices and breaks down exactly where the first gunner is shooting from in the mandalay bay....and its on a much lower floor ....
just watch the whole video with an open mind and i promise you will come away much more convinced...
https://youtu.be/auzNPt2HSwg
our government has been doing false flag operations against the civilian population for 100 years ..... as Jullian Assange stated on wikileaks this week, "creating false terrorist attacks and mass shootings is part of the FBI's business model" ....... and thats from the founder of Wikileaks , who is a non-partisan fact based source.... he doesn't deal in theories at all, only facts...
open your mind and realize that things are NOT OK , stop being a sheep and realize your freedom and liberty is being eroded away one crisis at a time.
just watch the whole video with an open mind and i promise you will come away much more convinced...
https://youtu.be/auzNPt2HSwg
our government has been doing false flag operations against the civilian population for 100 years ..... as Jullian Assange stated on wikileaks this week, "creating false terrorist attacks and mass shootings is part of the FBI's business model" ....... and thats from the founder of Wikileaks , who is a non-partisan fact based source.... he doesn't deal in theories at all, only facts...
open your mind and realize that things are NOT OK , stop being a sheep and realize your freedom and liberty is being eroded away one crisis at a time.
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
motive311 said:
Jullian Assange can say whatever he wants. I assume he has a whole filing cabinet of documents detailing the FBI's (less than 100 years old, btw) century of false flags? Let him share those with you first. The ones that lay out the business model. Hopefully with whatever their goals are, cause if it's to take away our guns and put us in FEMA camps, they've had 100 years of failure.
it's not a high bar but i'm just going to ignore you if you can't respond without abuse. why does my mind have to be closed just because i happen to disagree with you? maybe you're a sheep too - just going in a different direction?
alasdair
your freedom and liberty is being eroded because your country elected a conman clown called donald trump as president.
these conspiracy theories are just a distraction from what is actually going on - y'know, in the world outside of youtube "truther" "communities".
this is just the same video you posted before, with the same spurious reasoning to say it proves a conspiracy/false flag etc.
this happens every time there is an atrocity in america these days. have you noticed that?
the reason for that is that people make a lot of money selling this disinformation to gullible people.
that stuff about the "muzzle flash" reflecting in the mirror is a joke. it's las vegas - i hear there are a few flashing lights around that place.
what i don't get is people's obsession with finding out what's "really" going on in these events.
these guys seem so obsessed with finding patterns and conspiracies in everything, that they'd never be able to tell a "real" massacre from a "staged" one. their agenda is not to uncover the truth - it is to try to put holes in the "official story" - which makes absolutely no sense. if you go into something trying to prove what you believe, you're not revealing anything; what you're doing is pushing an agenda.
is it so hard to just accept that some crazy fucked up guy took a bunch of weapons into a hotel room and opened fire on a crowd?
really, this conspiracy stuff is so ridiculous and lacking in perspective - even if some of these events were conspiracies, nobody would ever know, because the confirmation-bias conspiracy theorist crowd have to come up with a counter-narrative to everything that happens.
Trust me, For the longest time I refused to believe in anyone using terms such as "deep state" or "illuminati" ... because i felt like you stated here, 'being a sheep in a different direction" ... I felt like fear was being used to manipulate stupid redneck conspiracy theorists, then I met an older friend who was very intelligent and he broke it down for me and introduced me to an ex-CIA mormon bishop who worked for the Romneys (who also have CIA connections) ..... all the sudden things started to snap into a framework that made a lot of sense.... its true people exagerate a lot, and say a lot of rediculous things which make the rest of us look crazy....
but truthfully, the REAL anonymous hacked into LVPD's computer system, and it seems they have all sorts of info on Paddock they are not releasing to the public ... that Paddock was connected to the FBI as a pilot who sold guns to whoever they asked him to, kind of like Fast and Furious operation.... he thought he was conducting a regular arms deal when he was framed and killed just prior to the attack.... on top of this, Laura Loomer revealed that employees at the Mandalay Bay printed out Paddocks records and he actually checked in to the hotel on the 25th and not the 28th.... and he had a guest who was with him for at least 2 nights, they ordered room service together and multiple people reported seeing two men together..... Youtube is taking down videos as fast as they can.... In the main stream media even we are getting official reports that the LVPD has completely changed their official timeline.... The security guard named Jesus somebody was actually shot
6 mins prior to the first burst of gunfire upon the crowd.... Why weren't the police notified ? Their reponse time was over an hour, they should have been there in time to stop or significantly shorten the masacre if gunfire erupted a whole 6 mins prior to the shooting.... On top of this the FBI is asking anyone with footage not to release it and turn it in for "security reasons" ..... there is plenty of information out there if you are willing to , as I said open your brain just a bit.... prove me wrong .
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swilow
Bluelight Crew
^The onus is on you to back up your claims, not on anyone to disprove them.
I like your ex-CIA Mormon bishop thing though :D
I like your ex-CIA Mormon bishop thing though :D
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
motiv311 said:
Yeah, it's not an echo. One explanation for the difference in gun fire volume could be explained by the fact that there were two windows at the corner of the building that were being actively fired from. Depending on where the taxi driver was one of windows could have been within line of sight of the microphone while the other not. Probably figure out if that's the case by comparing the picture above to the taxi cab footage.
spacejunk said:
I think it is natural to have mistrust for the official narrative. History is one big series of lies from government officials, so it would seem natural to me to mistrust information rather than accept it blindly. I don't understand why a different version of event is threatening to people? Why can't people entertain different perspectives on news stories? Why take it so personally? A so-called conspiracies can easily be ignored, filed away as a hypothesis, or validated/invalidated with some research. I haven't looked into this much and so don't have an opinion on motiv311's story. I question whether there were two shooters, but am interested in different views. Why should all posters have to satisfy your definition of what the story is? I personally am tired of posters with different ideas being ridiculed because they sound like conspiracies rather than based on the narrative presented. It is like Trump calling everything fake news before a person has a chance to explain it. Maybe there are other people reading these forums that are interested in hearing the person out and find the many posts attempting to discredit these posts based on the argument that it sounds like a conspiracy distracting. My advice would be if you can't argue the particulars, maybe just ignore it, you'll be happier in the long run.
he's not being ridiculed. he's being asked to support his claims.
if he feels he's being ridiculed, i'd invite him to change the tone by stopping ridiculing others as closed-minded and sheep?
alasdair
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