turkalurk
Bluelighter
the uncertainty principle has nothing to do with free will.
That's just an easy way to justify not contributing to the turnaround.
Not according to those who believe in the Garden as the origin of Man - the Garden is their only relevancy.Whether or not there was a literal Garden of Eden is irrelevant.
There was a time before murder, when we belonged to the animal kingdom.
Chimps kill. They do not murder. Same goes for sharks.
You can't have it both ways - if God made us like this then our acts are entirely both natural AND his fault, not ours. Because if God made us and the Garden myth is some kind of truth, God DIDN'T make us to question what we are and should be doing - in fact we got kicked out of the Garden for STEALING that ability.God made us like this, yes.
He also made us question what we are doing and what we should be doing.
We have been taken way off track, so that we realize we're off track and realign accordingly.
I guess what you mean is your belief in what the MSM tells you about quantum theory leads you to state so absolutely that there are many possible outcomes? It might be comforting to believe such things rather than think about the limitations of the 'free will' ideas, but quantum theory is ONLY a theory and we are a VERY long way from being able to declare any such certainty.Since quantum field mechanics proves that there are multiple possible outcomes to every situation, it seems that - perhaps - our decisions dictate whether or not we travel in one direction or another... I'm not entirely convinced of this, but I don't think you can say that the entire field of physics indicates that we don't have free will. You're not a physicist and there hasn't been an overwhelming consensus that I'm aware of.
I guess what you mean is your interpretation of modern physics (or your selective readings) indicate - to you - that free will doesn't exist? You don't really speak for the international scientific community... In fact, you commonly disagree with the global consensus.
As much as I believe anything to be so.
If you're sitting in a communal living room in a share-house, and it has become - through acts of drug induced depravity - more like a swamp than a room, you could just sit around and say, "We're never going to clean this up!"... And you could be right. But, if you're wrong, when it is clean, you will still reap the benefits.
I never said the entire field of physics does anything.
Well it is debatable (in a literal sense) as to whether we actually have free will. Physics tends towards the 'No' response.
You seem to read what you want to be able to mount sarcastic attacks instead of reading what is really said. Maybe try to have a conversation some time?
You don't really know anything about how I live, or what I do.
I took this "That's just an easy way to justify not contributing to the turnaround." as you saying I am not trying to contribute.
I forgive a lot and am sometimes not the guy who tells you to kill yourself, and who imagines the earth being scorched in a wave of hell-fire that somehow only takes most humans (and only often my first girlfriend- a nurse, and my sister and her children save the rest because they are lights in my life), but then some fucker lights a scented candle or sprays air freshener and it makes me want to smash everything and murder. My face and mouth go on fire. I feel assaulted. I just fucking hate people sometimes. In these moments to me, they are threats, and I clearly see their death as justified... Just like an insect that bites me, or if I am a spider, a human who threatens my death- I bite them. In those moments, I don't care that they are ignorant. They have me cornered. It is isolating, and testing.