this ..
the original OP word for word.
some batches work, some batches don't. I expect it's a salt form that's causing the problems.
the Acid breaks off during pyrolation and burns the throat if it's not a freebase.
which is why I quit 6 months ago.
I'm going to be doing some testing to get the skinny on this very soon. I'm no newb to rc's and I spent 4 straight months vaping mxe every day, compulsively when I had the material. I could go through 5g in a week if I wasn't working.
that was the thing that caught me the most. It was easy to stay off when I needed to stay off... No opiate like withdrawls atleast none that I could quantify. tho I am a very heavy user of other materials.
I carpooled to work so I could take a hit as soon as I was done with work, and stop smoking around 9pm and take a benzo (then phenaz... Horrible consequences, now etiz and volumetric measurements). literally packing a hit when I went to bed and taking the hit as soon as I woke up.
the revelations were mindblowing.
the only thing I've ever been able to tell people about the feeling is that it's sorta like the drug from 'limitless'.
immediate focus, and perfect recall. I'm already a certified genius, that helps.
I imagine there are a number of salts. HCL, sulphate, citrate
when it stopped working all of a sudden and started burning my throat, I called my vendor on it and he said he hadn't had any complaints. probably because the bioavail through mucous membrains in salt form is probably 100x, and kidneys will quickly siphon off the very small amount of pure acids which allow it to pass the BBB which is why I think smoking it has drastically different effects.
it is POSSIBLE to vape all salt forms, but it destroys material and burns your mouth if you heat it too fast. the VG method is something I haven't yet looked into but I've been putting things into ecigs for about 3 months now without trying that.
I quit smoking the stuff every day 6 months ago because there was no consistency. I had a dozen vendors and after mid '12 it became almost impossible to find the versions that are vapeable. I was wasting hundreds or thousands! of dollars on product that I'd eventually half snort half smoke. and more than a few times I got a surprise in the form of very unpleasant smoke even with doing the exact same things... sometimes even with doses measured out of the same bags... it was insanity and it wasn't making me a good person.
the insights stopped. that's when the reality of the situation hit me. when it was more than 2 months since I'd had an epiphany. when I started snorting and swallowing the material and it effected my life. my ability to write and type and drive. the driving was the worst.. when the vape worked, driving was simple after I started getting 'off' batches, I started losing depth perseption and would experience momentary blackouts in my memory. never more than 2 seconds but not remembering the last 2 seconds while you're driving can be very unnerving.
I will figure this out. I have 5g of from 3 places and they are certainly all not from the same batch unless they were recrystalized which is pointless.
on a side note, it did seem to become more effective ('off batches') when it was crushed into a powder. one time I had sugar grainule sized crystals and that actually caused a sore in the back of my throat that was visible.
the repeated acidity also rotted my teath severely- meth-mouth type, but my oral hygene isn't the best admittedly.
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. I'm a big guy and generally need a bit higher dosages of most things, but 30mg of mxe is experience for me and 45 is almost too much..
