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Valoid/Cyclizine injectors?

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Do people still inject cyclizine with methadone ampoules to recreate the diconal rush? I've done it with H and it is indeed the king of all anti-histamines for this purpose.

My question is this: given the low water solubility of cyclizine hcl (1mg/ml) how do people inject the tablets?

In the past I have crushed the tablets and added them into the barrell, drawn up my H solution and injected (which is incredibly unhealthy). I was under the impression this was really the only way to do this. These days i wouldn't have the veins to attempt such an endeavour, and a little more sense to know not to.
Perhaps cooking the tablets in citric acid and H increases solubility but I doubt it.

The pharmaceutical ampoules of Valoid contain the lactate salt of cyclizine, which is water soluble (50mg+/ml). The citrate salt is also highly water soluble.
As injecting crushed tablets is so unhealthy later today I will post a pretty clear and easy to follow method for isolating cyclizine hcl from tablets and turning it into either the lactate or citrate salt (citric acid is easily available to IV drug users).
Ideally this would be done with 1000mg cyclizine hcl (20 tablets) but could be done with as little as 10 tablets/500mg. A basic knowledge of acids/bases and salts will be required and previous acid/base-extraction experience would be an advantage.
 
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i don't think so. cyclizine and diconal seem to be very much an ireland/uk thing. i imagine it would be passed over in OD.
 
This used to be a big thing round my way in the mid to late 90s with valoid amps and physeptone tablets. I never tried it myself, having always been wary of injecting pills, but it seemed to induce some pretty bizarre behaviour in those that did. One that springs to mind was this guy found nodding out in a phone box wearing nothing but a tie and clutching an empty briefcase. Sounds like benzo blackout territory to me...
 
I does have the potential to get you absolutely fucked. 100mg plus your normal dose of H will have you falling off the toilet as if you had just done 3 times that much.
 
I can get hold of Cyclizine pills - However I would never consider injecting a tablet under any circumstances (regardless of micron filters or what other contraptions are out there for IV connoisseurs) - would they still be effective if taken orally with either my Methadone Linctus (which drops again tomorrow - 10mls down now 60 to go) or (in a whisper) if I were to smoke or IV some street Heroin?
 
I used to get scripted dicolal pills years ago from the pain clinic and while i never shot them or anything i dont recall them being anything special when taken orally. It was a while ago though so im not 100% sure. I think the cyclizine thing is mainly an IV phenomena though.
 
Like I said - Im not shooting a tablet regardless of how class the buzz might be. Ive overstepped the mark already by shooting gear and with the mess my arms are in from what are in the grand scheme of things occasional jabs I intend to save my veins exclusively for street gear, which, considering the crap and acid that ends up in the solution means they wont last anyway.
 
imo the only pills worth shooting were dikes, peach palf's and jacks - none of which can be gotten today without going thro the dn (i spose)
 
Peach palfium were meant to be very good but inconsistent for some reason and dangerous in terms of overdose.

Blondin what we're jacks?

I saw diconal on silk road shortly before it was shut down. I drooled over a lot of things on Sr but never bought anything
 
...^^ basically 10mg of morphine in a pill that dissolved completly in cold water...when naughty people use to go to chemists after hours they were always a favorite..apparantly
 
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