Valium everyday....Why not?

[Nikolai]

If thats what your doctor tells you to do, then do it, he's the doctor, most of us probably arent. If you stick to his instructions, meaning you stay at that dose and do not take more than youre supposed to, you will likely be fine. That is a very low dose, it would likely be easy to stop.

 

[daddysgone]

If thats what your doctor tells you to do, then do it, he's the doctor, most of us probably arent. If you stick to his instructions, meaning you stay at that dose and do not take more than youre supposed to, you will likely be fine. That is a very low dose, it would likely be easy to stop.

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I do NOT advocate the whole "blindly and unquestionably follow your doctor".

Many a sorry soul has found themselves in the depths of addiction from simply "following doctors orders".

The truth is that by taking benzos daily for any long period of time, you WILL become dependent upon them...and this fact doesn't change simply because your doctor has prescribed this regimen.-DG

 

[Nikolai]

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I do NOT advocate the whole "blindly and unquestionably follow your doctor".

Many a sorry soul has found themselves in the depths of addiction from simply "following doctors orders".

The truth is that by taking benzos daily for any long period of time, you WILL become dependent upon them...and this fact doesn't change simply because your doctor has prescribed this regimen.-DG

This is very true, but many medications that are very addicting may be needed long term despite that risk of addiction. This is more to do with opiates than benzos from me, but there are those prescribed daily opiates who have to take the med's daily to live any livable quality of life. There are people that take opiates for 30+ years for severe pain. A doctor prescribes them daily for that reason despite the risk of addiction. Im not sure what benzos would be prescribed for daily long-term, but Im assuming its needed if the doctor said take it every day.

 

[coopie]

I went off valium cold turkey after a short period of every day use with a consideral dosage, this contributed significantly to a serious psychological reaction to my circumstances at the time. My Dr said this was understandable and not an uncommon side effect from coming off Valium suddenly. After such an experience - I would def advise when you decide to stop - taper under medical supervision.

 

[forensic bob]

So I've been reading a lot about Valium on this site and i see lots of people saying to not take em every day, but when my doctor prescribed them to me he told me to take 5mg in the morning and 5mg at night and repeat each day. So whats so bad about taking them everyday?

If he told you to take it twice a day, chances are that you have some relatively bad anxiety.

Ive never takin it in a repeated, prescribed manner, such as the doc suggested you do, but I have a relative who has been taking valium every day for as long as i can remember.

If there is brain damage, then brain damage is pretty fuckin sweet: Cousin Forensic Bob is one of the happiest, successful relitives i know. Sure, his not having a care in the world leads him to bad decision making, but overall hes doing ok.

When trying to figure out if becoming dependent on valium, which is one of the most effective, least unpleasent benzos of them all, you must ask yourself a few questions:
How bad is my anxiety?
If i had them, would I take alot at once to get a big high or take it as perscribed as to keep a low-yet effective- blood level of valium at all time?
Can I afford the medication?
Am i at ease with the fact that this drug will become a major part of my life?
Am i taking it to fix a problem or get a fix?

If the anxiety is that bad and based on the answers it is worth it/you wont abuse it,
+you are willing to at least try to do without it once your life is together and you have nothing to be anxious about...
then by all means, take that shit.

Forensic bob

 

[Violenza666]

I take xanax and klonopin everyday.. have been for years for panic disorder. Now I don't get panic attacks anymore but I will be on them for them rest of my life. I don't mind a permanant script for xanax or klonopin for the rest of my life, but WD's are a MOTHERFUCKER... So I stay at my scripted dose and this is how I live. I don't have any side effects like drowsyness or euphoria.. ect.. but I take them to maintain my "homeostasis" so to speak. Depending on what you're taking them for you should make a decesion.. do you want to be dependant on valium? Is your dr going to give them to you for the rest of your life? Are you prepared for the nasty WDS if you are forced to come off them?... think long and hard... Good luck!

 

[Violenza666]

Also it will cause brain damage.

This is one of the most retarded things I have ever read on here.

 

[Violenza666]

And they lose effectiveness by the time you develop a dependence on them.

I don't find this to be true. I gained a tolerance as in I don't catch a buzz off of them however I have stayed on the same dose the all the years I have been on them and they have effectively treated my anxiety. I think people think they lose effectiveness because they're not catching a buzz off of them which is not the case.s

 

[forensic bob]

I don't find this to be true. I gained a tolerance as in I don't catch a buzz off of them however I have stayed on the same dose the all the years I have been on them and they have effectively treated my anxiety. I think people think they lose effectiveness because they're not catching a buzz off of them which is not the case.s

too true, when someone goes to the doc in search of a fix, the benzos get the best of him.

selfcontrol is key, when given by a doc treat it like a medicine not a drug.

 

[Nikolai]

I don't find this to be true. I gained a tolerance as in I don't catch a buzz off of them however I have stayed on the same dose the all the years I have been on them and they have effectively treated my anxiety. I think people think they lose effectiveness because they're not catching a buzz off of them which is not the case.s

I think youre exactly right. These very addicting medications, opiates, benzos, etc, are prescribed medications for daily use because some people need them. I think the key is staying on your prescribed daily dose. If you begin chasing that buzz and taking higher amounts than youre supposed to theres the high chance of falling into the vicious cycle of addiction. The doctors prescribing these medications for daily use should explain that to the patient, and I know many do.

 

[unsettled]

I agree with the above poster. If your doctor has prescribed you this dose just take it as prescribed and don't raise it, that's where you get into trouble. If you find later on down the line that you need more talk to your doctor. I like to believe that most doctors know what they are doing, even though I know some don't especially when it comes to the long term consequences of a daily benzo prescription.

I know that I got into trouble with the benzos when I started taking more than I was prescribed, even though I wasn't really taking them to get high I just had really bad anxiety and was self medicating, I should have went to my doctor and explained what was going on I could have avoided alot of trouble later on. Live and learn.

 

[EEhouseEE]

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I do NOT advocate the whole "blindly and unquestionably follow your doctor".

Many a sorry soul has found themselves in the depths of addiction from simply "following doctors orders".

The truth is that by taking benzos daily for any long period of time, you WILL become dependent upon them...and this fact doesn't change simply because your doctor has prescribed this regimen.-DG

this is true doctors just give u advice to basically get rid of you, they dont necessarily tell you whats best for you.

 

[EEhouseEE]

Do benzos expire....like will my valium expire, and if so, when?

 

[Tommyboy]

Prescription bottles say discard after 1 year usually.
Ex: Date Filled 1/4/09 Discard After 1/4/10

I have taken 8yr old pills and thought they worked just fine if that means anything to you.

 

[EEhouseEE]

for a person with no tolerance what would be the recreational dose range like 20-30mg? OR just enough to feel some euphoria

 

[Sweet P]

^ Yeah, 20-30mg's should do the trick for somebody with no tolerance.

 

[hydroazuanacaine]

I've seen stories of people who only took 5 mg a day having years worth of withdrawal.

and you believe these stories? and consider them applicable to the general population?

benzo dependence comes up fast, no doubt. years of WD from reasonable use? not even close. some shaking and teeth grinding that you can tapper away in a few weeks.

not supporting their daily abuse. shit is addictive. plus it just stops working at any reasonable dose, but you still need to take it. very short honeymoon period if you dont use some restraint. if you keep doses down though, they're great forever.

 

[Moral Decay]

I have Valium scripted for anxiety as needed. I take them about twice a week and usually 2.5mg is plenty. I don't get any sort of high or euphoria from it but I do get anxiety relief and at times use it to get to sleep early when I have something to do the next day or to get my sleep schedule back on track. I suffer from anxiety and insomnia and Valium has severely increased the quality of my life. I've been taking it about 2-3 times a week for over a year and I have no problem stopping for a couple of weeks when I do not have anxiety of trouble sleeping. Currently I am on a several week break, for no reason other then i didn't need them. Last night I took 2.5mg and it knocked me the fuck out. Just be responsible with it OP and you won't have any problems. I however feel you will have problems when you are asking how to get high on it. 20-30mg of Valium in someone with no tolerance is a HUGE dose. If you feel you absolutely MUST take them recreationally start off with 10-15mg. I think you will find it is plenty.

 

[MikeHawk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but 5mg is an incredibly low dose is it not? I barely feel the effects of 30mg Valium. The first time I used it I had 40mg and sure, I felt relaxed but it is one of the weaker benzos.

Regarding Benzo tolerance, I can assure you it builds up extremely fast, I've used about 40mg of Xanax in 3 months and although I tend to have periodic breaks, 2mg of Xanax only sedates me a little now, whereas 1mg used to give me double vision. Watch out for your dosing, that's all. I highly doubt you'll receive serious withdrawals from 10mg a day, that's very low.

 

[Sweet P]

^ Yeah, I'm surprised anyone can feel the effects of 5mg's, even with no tolerance. It takes at least 50mg's for me to feel it these days.