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valium addiction how long?

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I think this is better suited to BDD, so I'll reel it over there ;)

EADD ---> BDD


p.s. Hiyer BDD krew! :)
 
Do you need these for a medical condition or recreation. Benzos dont take that long to get addicted to, maybe 2-4 months of solid use. I get valium from my doctor for muscle spasms and usually take a few days off in between refills. IE, I got a 10 day supply but would wait 3-4 days before getting a refill. Benzos are one of those drugs you need to really be careful about if you are worried about addiction.
 
I would say less than 2 months of daily use to get physically dependent on them, really. I have used benzos for over 20 years .
 
I've stolen a good amount of my moms diazapam (valium) and I noticed a few things. One I never really felt anything, I railed a few and swallowed a good amount. And I was doing them for about 2-3 weeks and never felt anything similar to a pill withdraw.
 
Be careful. Benzodiazepines are the most physically addictive drug on planet earth, they are the hardest drug to come off. They really fuck with your CNS.
 
well i used to knock back clonazepam like tictacs for about 2 years. I'm not quite sure how they compare physically to valium, when i take valium, i find them slightly more efficient but essentially the same.

I think you are "addicted" to them when you start believing you need them to get through. I spent 6 months justifying my use as a sleep aid, for example, or I thought I was incapable of coordinating my divorce without tranquilizing my nerves... actually, i did need it for that LOL, but after it was over, i started to think I couldn't get through a busy work day without... and there's where the "addiction" comes into play.
When I quit, my fear was worse than the actual withdrawl. I couldn't sleep for 3 days, i was itchy from the inside (but not chronic, manageable). Honestly, after 3 days, my symptoms were negligible. So, Supeudol et al. may know something i don't and I don't want to lead you astray... but it's was very doable for me, easier than quitting drinking and easier than quitting blow.

Good luck :)
 
Addiction is a funny thing that no one can seem to describe clearly. I hear that addiction is characterized by having illusion of control over one's habit-that they think they can just quit when they want. Then you hear when they say that they need it for something they're an addict. I NEED my tramadol because of chronic pain. Yes I am physically dependent on it. It doesn't get me high. It has NEVER gotten me high. The only effects I have ever noticed off of this drug is the first couple of days I got a little drowsy. Other people get fucked up on it. I take 8 a day. Then if I give my older sister 2 of them, she gets sick as fuck and starts puking and she's really fucked up. Would I be considered "addicted" if I know that I need it to manage my pain? I've exhausted most other conventional methods and have had no long-term results. I don't think I need my pills; I KNOW I need my pills.
 
the bold one said:
if theoretically, you had access to unlimited amounts of msj valiums,how long would would it take to develop a problem,if you were throwing them down non-stop?
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Throwing them down non stop is a problem...IME 2 weeks is long enough for it to be a problem that will required you to taper off if only for the physcological issues.

I have real issue with Diaz, on the one hand it really helps me with anxiety and sleep but on the other Ican't control the dosage once I have a good supply. In the long run I'll have to face up to it and cease use for good ATM they are servning a purpose but only for a limted period of time:\
 
atm23 said:
Throwing them down non stop is a problem...
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This - The answers that people have been giving, for the most part, are, as far as I can tell, appropriate for responsible/therapeutic doses, not getting really fucked up all day every day.

You will very quickly become addicted if you consume excessive doses of a benzo daily, and doing so is a really bad idea for that reason. Depending on how much you mean by "throwing them down non-stop", i'd be worried about 2 weeks (or even less, if your idea of "throwing them down non-stop" is a continuous heavy benzo binge :-P).
 
Everyone is different. There's no real answer. I'd say no more than a month, for a proper issue. Then again, it may be a week.
 
I'd even go as far as to say that 2 weeks of continual use can be the beginnings of a feeling of dependence, obviously your body gets used to being sedated and relaxed and what not, so any more than that and you can find yourself feelin rather uncomfortable indeed.

I've been on Diazepam and Temazepam (now Nitrazepam) for.... jeez I dunno, since my Nan died and I'm really struggling to taper my dose further - Even though I'm only on 4 to 6mg a day :\ I was on 25mg at one point, so I suppose that's progress.

But honestly, Benzodiazepines are such a bloody useful and bloody awful class of substances when it comes to relief and withdrawal respectively :|
I'd put them 2nd in my "most difficult and fucking shit substances to withdrawal from", with Ethanol being the first.

"Use Sparingly" would be my advice.
 
I've managed to kick the booze as you know Monsta (nothing since 1/7/2011) but was on Diaz when I did that, tapered to nothing 2 weeks after stopped the booze.

Somehow I justified going back on them, now I'm back on an AD that seems to work and have started my CBY I really need to start thinking about quiting, was keeping the dose low, but as usual its crept up and I'm into 3 figures a day...again, e are well,into smartie territory.

For me mentally its worse than booze because I can do them anytime, I only used to rink in the evening where ass I'm dropping 10-20 Mgs of Diaz every 2-3 hours whist awake at the mo (illicit tabs so probably a bit less but still ridiculous)

They help me sleep, they help me leave the house, they help with my anxiety, if only I could keep a lid on the dose and only use when required..but thats not going to happen and I never use anything "sparingly" apart from maybe chilli powder !

25Mgs a day ! and it was concern for you I'm getting up at this time and dropping 20 just to leave the house and walk the dog, 5-6 wouldnt even touch the sides but then I've never been on them for more than a couple of months at a time wihtut manging a break so Iguess the real physical dependance just hasnt kicked in.

Its becoming my little support blanket as all other drug use has been stripped away, its all thats left,maybe its a control thing, I havent worked that out yet.
 
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..and if you are trying to get off, ask your doctor about a valium/klonopin taper and lyrica. a taper + lyrica would be a walk in the park compared to cold turkey.
 
On a related note, how long have people gone taking valium occasionally without developing any sort of problems? I'm not talking "throwing them down non-stop", rather just taking them on an as needed basis? I've been doing this for nearly a year now. Sometimes taking every day in a week, and sometimes not taking anythingfor 2 weeks. And feel I could stop completely at any time without any issues.
 
this is how i dose my benzos. i usually only dose .5-1mg, or i up the stakes by adding another mg or two making that a whopping 2-3mgs. WOAH!!!! i never usually dose daily, sometimes 3-4 times a week, or 1-2 times a week depending on how much money i have and how many benzos i have. when the area is dry or im poor, i can go months without my benzos and never feel any W/D. i have sustained this habit for about 4 years now. never really increased my dosages either :)
 
WayneRooney said:
On a related note, how long have people gone taking valium occasionally without developing any sort of problems? I'm not talking "throwing them down non-stop", rather just taking them on an as needed basis? I've been doing this for nearly a year now. Sometimes taking every day in a week, and sometimes not taking anythingfor 2 weeks. And feel I could stop completely at any time without any issues.
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^the dose and frequency slowly grows. even though it goes up and down on the short term, overall it slowly increases. not saying it isn't worth it.
 
Supeudol said:
Be careful. Benzodiazepines are the most physically addictive drug on planet earth, they are the hardest drug to come off. They really fuck with your CNS.
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not sure I agree with that one, its a bit of a sweeping statement and would require you to fully define addictive, how hard a substance is to withdraw from also doesn't really have scale and would clearly depend on both the initial habit, the individual and a whole heap of other variables.

I agree people often don't take the addiction and withdrawal potential seriously enough but to put them at the very top of the scale doesn't sit right with me although I'd be interested as to how you would substantiate that position.
 
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