Stoner: First off, let me say that you're taking the right steps with this by asking questions. Please don't assume anything! If you're unsure about anything at all come back to this thread, reply, and I and others will help you! If you go searching for the last few posts I made on this forum you'll find my story of nearly dying on this stuff one night because I was really stupid. Don't be like me! Learn from my mistakes!
That said, here is what I suggest you do;
- First off, go here:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml and read everything you can on the subject. Lots of good information on that page, make sure to go read some of the trip reports to get an idea of what DXM is like.
- Second: Make extra sure that when you visit the webpage above that you read over the DXM FAQ:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml This contains a ton of useful information about DXM, basically it covers everything known about it at the time the FAQ was last updated. I'm not saying everything it says is 100% correct, but for the most part, its a very good read.
- Third: I see you're asking about which product you should use, and lots of people are telling you to go for a syrup or cough spray. I'll be honest here, nothing short of DXM powder is going to be great for you, as the OTC medications come with all sorts of fillers. However, you can make smart choices about which you will using. Some pointers on the subject:
- 1) Stay far away from anything that has any other active in it aside from DXM, all products like this should be avoided. You ever hear of "triple C's"? Those things are really bad for you, don't ever do them....ever.
- 2) The sprays and syrups are fine and most people seem to have no problems with them. I've personally never used them to "trip" because I didn't fancy the idea of chugging all that stuff, and I can't find the right kind of zicam locally. What I've always used are the robotussin gelcaps. I suggest you do this as well for a few reasons:
- 3) each gelcap contains 15mg of DXM HBr and as a result you'll have a
much easier time figuring out exactly how much you're ingesting. I'm a small guy, 120lbs and half a bottle of these (20 come in each bottle, so 300mg per bottle) is enough to put me near 2nd plateau, if I take an entire bottle I'm in a high 2nd/low 3rd plateau. For my first trip (after testing at 80mg or whatever is was to make sure I wasn't someone that lacked the enzyme to properly break it down in my liver.) I went for an entire bottle at 300mg and had an awesome time. The CEVs were amazing and I spent the peak of the trip laying in bed listening to classical music and going through a trip through space. I sent out txts to friends while going through the trip, one of which said "Man, when I close my eyes, I'm ice skating on the rings of Saturn!". It was highly enjoyable to say the least!
- 4) You need to get familiar with how much you'll need to reach the plateau you're shooting for. If you follow the links I sent to you in this post, and the advice of others in this thread you should be able to do some simple math to figure how much you'll need exactly to reach each plateau. Keep in mind that you'll need to convert your body weight from lbs to kg. From there you'll be able to figure out how much you'll need to attain the effects you're seeking. Each plateau is different...1st is like begin "drunk/stoned", the 2nd is where the "trippy" effects are to kick in, the third and fourth I've never gone for and don't suggest going above the 2nd until you get a good idea of the effects, get an idea if this is for you, and after that you might want to step up to the 3rd "level". I've personally found that a high 2nd plateau is my "sweet spot", although I do plan on trying a 3rd plateau at some point.
- 5) Do not mix DXM with drugs like the benzo classes of drugs, or pain killers, or anything else that might interact badly. Read the FAQs I linked you to and read the threads others have linked you to as well. I highly suggest not mixing DXM with anything but cannabis, and even then you need to be careful not to toke too much of that stuff while tripping as it can sends things up to another level and give you effects that you weren't expecting (as in, it'll come on a lot stronger and "boost" your trip to the next level sometimes). Don't think you can mix this safely with anything unless you have other drugs you've developed a tolerance to. Even then, keep the doses low until you get idea of how they interact and never ever ever assume just because you have a tolerance to the other substances that they might not interact with the DXM well at all. That time I almost died/had what I consider a OBE/NDE is due to the fact that I made the mistake of mixing oxycodone with DXM after taking 2mg of xanax several hours before...also I hadn't slept in 18 hours or so. All that combined was just too much for my body/mind to handle, and at some point I blacked out and lost many hours of time...very scary! I'm lucky to be alive imho.
- Again, please be safe and do all the research you can on the subject and ask any questions about stuff you're unsure about. Also, this is nothing like mushrooms or lady Alice. If you're expecting a trip like that you're going to be a bit disappointing for you as you're going to be bummed that it isn't like the two drugs I mentioned. DXM is more like K, although, it has its own unique properties.
- Stay safe man, if you'd like, PM me and I'd be willing to discuss this with you in detail as I understand you might not want to ask questions in the forums sometimes.
I'd go into more detail here but I've just consumed my nightly 2mg of xanax and its starting to kick in and I have company expecting to come by any minute. I'll be around later tonight though after they leave. If I remember before I pass out I'll make sure to check this thread and reply again if you have any more questions.
Once again stay safe, and don't be the idiot I was/am when it comes to this stuff. Yes its an OTC, but you need to respect it like any other drug, illegal or otherwise.
Best of luck to you. Also, one last bit of advice before I go: Make sure you're in a good mind state, in a good setting, and are prepared to deal with things in your past mid-trip (like say, if you've had drama in your life it WILL be flying through your thoughts while in the middle of your trip. I suggest you face these problems and try to work through them whilst tripping instead of trying to "fight" them as that's just going to make you uneasy and might lead to a "bad trip. Also, if you have a trusted friend, have it trip sit for you at least on your first attempt to trip on this stuff. I've always done it without a sitter, but I did sit for my friend on his first experience with DXM. If you can, find a local friend that's willing to try it with you. Have him sit for you one your first "trip", and return the favor when he'd ready to give it a good to.
Feel free to reply here, or send me a PM if you have questions that you don't want to post on the public forums. I'm pretty well read on the subject, and aside from my stupid attempt at mixing it with my other DOCs I feel like I can give you sound advice on any questions you might have.
Stay safe man, and remember, always test the waters with these new substances before "going for that awesome trip". You need to build up basically to the dosage that's right for you. Eventually you'll find your sweet spot.
Never attempt going past the 2nd plateau until you've become used to the effects, after that, you might consider stepping up to the 3rd/4th.
Best of luck to you! Hope you enjoy DXM. Please also keep in mind, this is something you don't want to do every day. I suggest you each at least 2 weeks before tripping again, 3 weeks if your last trip was at the 3rd plateau etc.
When I come back later on at night I'll reply back to fill you in on any questions I might have missed. Company just showed up so...I gotta go for now.
- Peace, love, and Headphones.
