verso
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I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot is beyond you, but maybe one day you'll understand that there are both pros and cons to circumcision whether you'd like to believe it or not.
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I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot is beyond you, but maybe one day you'll understand that there are both pros and cons to circumcision whether you'd like to believe it or not.
Libby
Bluelighter
Can it be done as an adult or adolescent? I kinda think it should be up to the individual whether they want to be circumcised or not as their dick belongs to them and not to their parents. Is there some reason it is done as a baby? I usually don't notice if a guy is cut/uncut unless he has really excessive amount of foreskin lol ick, normal amount or circumcised are both nice. Actually I am not sure if the ones I thought seemed to have way too much foreskin were the only ones not circumsized and the ones that seemed to have a little foreskin was just that circumcision doesn't remove ALL the foreskin... I just thought the ones that when u try to wank them it's really difficult unless wet coz nothing moves with your hand were the ones that were circumsized... Im actually really confused now lol
TheLostBoys
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Did you know men now a days are getting surgeries done to have some kind of foreskin replaced? There are men out there that are pissed that they got circumcised........
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Circumcision is not an uncomplicated and it's not a painless operation. As other people posted on this thread earlier infant boys pass out from shock, and scream bloody murder. It's that painful but they're getting part of their penis cut off, ripped off, or even burned off in some cases. When circumcision is performed on an infant boy anesthesia is not always used either, and even if it is it still does not greatly reduce pain. Adult men who have been cut even with anesthesia have said how it was one of the most painful sensations, and experiences they ever had to go through.
'You do lose an enormous amount of sensitivity. It has no effect on ejaculation, or whether you can get an erection or not. Because you lose so much sensation you have to work much harder to get the same sensation which affects sex completely.'-Performance artist Peet Pienaar, who filmed and exhibited his own circumcision in 2000
A surgery that's too painful for men to bear should instead be imposed on babies? It was proven by Anand & Hickey in the mid-1980s that infants feel pain more acutely than adults, yet still today most doctors and religious circumcisers use ineffective or no anesthetic.
BTW, all the world medical associations who have reviewed this issue have come to the same conclusion: infant circumcision is not medically indicated.
Complications from circumcision can and do happen: http://www.circumstitions.com/Complic.html
I have seen men who have skin bridges and other issues from being cut that are at the bottom of this page:
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Yes it's true. I'm bisexual and I have met gay men who seem to fetishize foreskin but I avoid them since if that's the only reason why someone wants me I don't want them.
TheLostBoys said:
Yes a friend of mine did that himself with tape and some device he bought, and I know other men who have done it without surgery. They noticed a great increase in their sexual pleasure and penile sensitivity.
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MikeOekiM
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not even close to the amount of people who are getting surgeries to get circumcised......
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Actually most men in the world are not cut and have completely intact genitals and do not have any issues with having a foreskin, just like most women don't have issues with having a vagina that's completely intact with all of its tissue.
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MikeOekiM
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cool.
im saying more men are getting surgeries to get circumcized rather than to do what he said.
even in the United States where most people are circumcised.
im saying more men are getting surgeries to get circumcized rather than to do what he said.
even in the United States where most people are circumcised.
Busty St Clare
Ex-Bluelighter
PLease do tell me your personal experience of circumcision. Until such time leave the google reference to the freaks in CE&P. I have sat there with my own son and can assure you there was no pain, no screaming, no blood. As a parent I can tell if my kids are getting so much as a sniffle and reality is circumcision is a straight forward procedure that has been performed millions of times without any medical problems.
PriestTheyCalledHim
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. 8) No pain, screaming/discomfort, or even blood? How did his foreskin get removed? Via magic? Or was he like Muhammad and born with a deformed penis that had no foreskin at all? Yes there have been medical problems with circumcision, and there's a lot of pain. To claim otherwise that there was no blood or even pain just shows how you're talking out of your ass. Until then keep posting more lies and misinformation.
neMMMM-Just be yourself and women in North America will not care if you are not cut.
Busty St Clare
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EMLA gel for 3-4 hours before hand then a ligature placed around a plastic bell shaped device. He cam e home and withn a few days it dropped off. Trust me there were no tears, no scalpel, no strapping a poor innocent to some sort of rack. I sat with him for two days and we played as normal. When I bathed him I had to apply an antiseptic but even then he didn't complain once. As a parent I know when my child is upset, and nothing over the last 6 years has shown me that my son is a tough guy, if it hurts he whinges. He limped for 2 days after getting a vaccination in his arm 
But by all means stoop to calling me a lier, it simply shows up your own ignorance.
But by all means stoop to calling me a lier, it simply shows up your own ignorance.
pofacedhoe
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well thank you for seeing the obvious point i've been making that has fallen on deaf ears. i just think that circumcision is a socially accepted form of abuse. that is all.
^BstC.
weather or not it was "painless" the real point is that it wasn't necessary and should be up to the adult person to decide for their own body like tattoo's, plastic surgery, and other unnecessary aesthetic cosmetic alterations of the human body
you can keep trying to justify your position but at no point have you even begun to think that people should be able to chose what happens to their own body- this is unethical and shows a lack of understanding.
socially accepted abuse that has been tolerated for too long. its understandable that at this point people cannot backtrack and change their mind because they really don't have anything to gain from it as what once was is lost already
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Funny, I don't feel like I was abused.
This subject has been discussed at some length more than few times over the years in SLR.
The conversations are essentially the same, with different players filling in for the same roles.
*yawn*
This subject has been discussed at some length more than few times over the years in SLR.
The conversations are essentially the same, with different players filling in for the same roles.
*yawn*
MikeOekiM
Bluelighter
Funny, I don't feel like I was abused.
This subject has been discussed at some length more than few times over the years in SLR.
The conversations are essentially the same, with different players filling in for the same roles.
*yawn*
only the uncircumcised or women think its abuse. sure you'll get someone who wishes it didnt happen but that is seriously less than 1% of those who are circumcised.
B1tO'RoughJack
Bluelighter
It still happens. I remember it happening to me when I was younger. It has also happened with the remaining skin at the back base of the glans too - so if you're clumsy you're clumsy.
It IS unnecessary for most, I personally didn't have the luxury of choice - mine just got too tight when I was about 9/10 and I had to be chopped, but it is more hygienic and I wouldn't have it any other way.
It is NOT all about aesthetics though, historically anyways - maybe in the US NOW, but way back in the day, it was done to people to stop sand and irritants getting under the foreskin in desert countries.
Busty it most certainly isn't painless! I remember salt baths and a constructed tent for my bed so the stitched area wouldn't get caught. Oh and pulling out the stitches when it was sufficiently healed - it was kinda unpleasant. Maybe it's not so bad when you're younger, or they've introduced new procedures in the past 15 years...I dunno. Not fun either way.
EDIT: read your posts later - wow that sounds a whole lot better.
I personally think that a child should be able to decide whether they want it when they grow older, it's not the parents' business unless a case like mine happens - it's like parents who get their children's ears pierced without asking them - it's treating them like livestock! Fuck that!
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Libby
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I wasn't agreeing with you that it is abuse, actually. As someone who suffered severe physical abuse from their parents I did laugh at the notion of parents circumcising their sons be categorised as "abuse". I was asking if it can be done as an adult or adolescent, or if there is some reason it's done as a baby. As it would probably be preferable if individual boys had final say in what happens to their own dicks.
B1tO'RoughJack
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It can be done at any time.
And are you talking to me? Or someone else. I wouldn't say it's abuse at all, but it's certainly something that should be changed as it's ridiculous taking away someone's autonomy on a decision about their own personal hygiene.
And are you talking to me? Or someone else. I wouldn't say it's abuse at all, but it's certainly something that should be changed as it's ridiculous taking away someone's autonomy on a decision about their own personal hygiene.
Libby
Bluelighter
I was talking to pofacedhoe, but love you too pumpkin *mwwwa*
pofacedhoe
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so if i took my one year old to a tattoo parlour do you think social services would get involved? the only reason this shit is condoned is because jews and muslims have pushed it for hundreds of years. i think that FGM is classified as abuse and therefore so should non consenting circumcision in males.
if i cut part of another persons baby's ear off because we both thought it looked cool most people would say that was not right
i get hit and bitten at work as part of my job and i can tolerate that but if my finger got bitten off or a chunk of my ear it would be different. a bruise/bite heals, but i'm not a lizard and i cannot grow new body parts
its not necessary and condoning it is not a good idea
MikeOekiM
Bluelighter
maybe i'd understand if most people who grew up wish they werent circumcised but seriously thats less than 1% of people circumcised so stop making a big deal about it.
Miss Hollywood
Bluelighter
I've been with both circumcised and uncircumcised and I definately prefer circumsised. I mean no offense to those of you that aren't but I have had nothing but unpleasant experiences with uncut guys. For one I think it looks weird, I think cut looks more visually appealing. Also not every single guy, but the majority of the uncut guys had a certain smell to them and I noticed under the skin is a little slimy feeling and I didn't like that.
I normally wouldn't date a guy that was uncut unless I really liked him. But I do agree that a guy should have the choice to have it done or not.
I normally wouldn't date a guy that was uncut unless I really liked him. But I do agree that a guy should have the choice to have it done or not.