Hammilton
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For those of you who are aware, ultra enhanced indo, the king of kratom extracts, is not truly an extract in the normal sense. All evidence points to it being a semi-synthetic analogue of mitragynine, a mitragynine extract that's been coverted to mitragynine pseudoindoxyl or a close analogue, approximately 30x stronger than morphine, that's probably blended in with micronized Bali powder (I assume Bali because it's cheap, and basically inert at the doses used.
I decided to quit suboxone and switch to kratom maintenance the start of January, though through December I toyed with the ability of kratom to block withdrawal. Not perfect, but damn good. I've since stabilized on about 12-14g / day, a 3-4g dose in the morning or early afternoon, then 8 or 9 before bed. Works good.
I decided I wanted to try genuine UEI so I ordered some from the only vendor I could be positive of. I wanted to see if it would produce the dreams that real opioids do, but kratom doesn't.
Last dose of kratom was 8.45g at 330am, it's now 1230pm. I measure out exactly 500mg mix with a little applesauce and swallow on an otherwise empty stomach. Ten minutes later I decide that I've under dosed and add another 330mg in the same manner.
By 1pm I'm feeling the effects, they remind me very much of oxy. I'm clear headed and happy. Make a few phone calls and chat longer than normal. This feels exactly like an opiate, there's no question. I usually notice a strong opioid effect for an hour which fades to a kratom-effect that feels stoning and somewhat dizzy. That doesn't happen here, the opioid effects remain the most prominent and euphoria is certainly present.
At 2pm the effects have noticeably declined but are still present.
At 2:50p I'm not feeling much so I take another 700mg.
2:55 the effects of my booster have already made themselves known. I'm feeling itchy and warm. There is slight stomach discomfort as the drug kicks in, but I had been sick yesterday and I suspect it's related to that and to not having eaten in about 18 hours.
Often when I get high on opioids I find myself wanting to lie down and feel the euphoria running through my body, but I'm stimulated and not really wanting to when there's other things to do. Eventually I force myself to, and it feels good, but I find that I'm stimulated to really nod off at all. I have the same problem with oxy, though, and this stimulation does not feel remotely adrenegic like Green Vein Thai or Maeng Da can, both kratom varieties I consider closer to coffee than to premium commercial Bali.
It's now 5:30pm and the effects are slowly wearing off. I'll try a whole gram at bedtime tonight and add a mini report to this then, but then I plan on going back to premium commercial Bali for a few days to prevent tolerance. While I'm working as much as I am I'll stick to Maeng Da or GV Malay or GVT for my daytime dose and PCB or RVT for bedtime and take the UEI for my nighttime dose on days I'm not working. It's too expensive to consume daily and I don't want my tolerance going through the roof. I can easily see how someone with the resources and time could turn this into a huge habit. I don't find that kratom itself is addicting or euphoric, but it's a good maintenance plant. UEI is an impressive product that deserves real respect, it is every bit as good as any opioid I've tried by the oral route.
I decided to quit suboxone and switch to kratom maintenance the start of January, though through December I toyed with the ability of kratom to block withdrawal. Not perfect, but damn good. I've since stabilized on about 12-14g / day, a 3-4g dose in the morning or early afternoon, then 8 or 9 before bed. Works good.
I decided I wanted to try genuine UEI so I ordered some from the only vendor I could be positive of. I wanted to see if it would produce the dreams that real opioids do, but kratom doesn't.
Last dose of kratom was 8.45g at 330am, it's now 1230pm. I measure out exactly 500mg mix with a little applesauce and swallow on an otherwise empty stomach. Ten minutes later I decide that I've under dosed and add another 330mg in the same manner.
By 1pm I'm feeling the effects, they remind me very much of oxy. I'm clear headed and happy. Make a few phone calls and chat longer than normal. This feels exactly like an opiate, there's no question. I usually notice a strong opioid effect for an hour which fades to a kratom-effect that feels stoning and somewhat dizzy. That doesn't happen here, the opioid effects remain the most prominent and euphoria is certainly present.
At 2pm the effects have noticeably declined but are still present.
At 2:50p I'm not feeling much so I take another 700mg.
2:55 the effects of my booster have already made themselves known. I'm feeling itchy and warm. There is slight stomach discomfort as the drug kicks in, but I had been sick yesterday and I suspect it's related to that and to not having eaten in about 18 hours.
Often when I get high on opioids I find myself wanting to lie down and feel the euphoria running through my body, but I'm stimulated and not really wanting to when there's other things to do. Eventually I force myself to, and it feels good, but I find that I'm stimulated to really nod off at all. I have the same problem with oxy, though, and this stimulation does not feel remotely adrenegic like Green Vein Thai or Maeng Da can, both kratom varieties I consider closer to coffee than to premium commercial Bali.
It's now 5:30pm and the effects are slowly wearing off. I'll try a whole gram at bedtime tonight and add a mini report to this then, but then I plan on going back to premium commercial Bali for a few days to prevent tolerance. While I'm working as much as I am I'll stick to Maeng Da or GV Malay or GVT for my daytime dose and PCB or RVT for bedtime and take the UEI for my nighttime dose on days I'm not working. It's too expensive to consume daily and I don't want my tolerance going through the roof. I can easily see how someone with the resources and time could turn this into a huge habit. I don't find that kratom itself is addicting or euphoric, but it's a good maintenance plant. UEI is an impressive product that deserves real respect, it is every bit as good as any opioid I've tried by the oral route.