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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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mlk_2900 said:
I have a question. Has anyone ever gotten really small pods? I know I usually have medium-large, and this time I got smalls so I expected them to be smaller of course. I guess I just didn't realize how truly small the smalls can be! They will still work though, right? I am assuming they are still papaver somniferum, I have just never seen any this small.
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I have used pods as small as grapes and even smaller and they still have alkaloids. Use the stem and knuckle too with the really tiny ones, as the material hasn't hardened enough to not use it like with the big ones.
 
Ubber Peguin-I noticed the same problem and talked to my supplier in FL. He has told me the main farm in AZ had issues with the DEA and the strain of poppy they were permitted to grow. Don't know how true it is, but it make alot of sense.
I've been enjoying these little pods for years now, long before ebay caught on and they have finally priced me out of the market. I was paying .50 a pod (large-xtra) when I began.
Found a local health/spice shop that has everything, cheap and good. If you live in a large city, look for spice shops tucked away on the fringe of society, you might get lucky!!
 
Hello everyone, I have a question about poppy seeds. I have looked far and wide (in health food stores, etc) to find poppy seeds in bulk and have been unable to. Today I was with a friend in a store that sells many types of foreign type foods, specializing in Indian, and just by chance stumbled upon half pound bags of poppy seeds. However, they were not black like I expected, they were very light yellow, almost white. I have never seen poppy seeds that looked like this nor have I ever heard of any white seeds. Has anyone ever used this type of seeds to make poppy seed tea, or are they worthless?
 
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I traveled far and wide searching for bulk poppy seeds. I checked an indian and asian grocery, large asian bulk grocer, and every supermarket in the area. There just aren't any cheap bulk supplies available to me. I've never seen white seeds, maybe they are from a different strain of poppy?
 
aekunc said:
Hello everyone, I have a question about poppy seeds. I have looked far and wide (in health food stores, etc) to find poppy seeds in bulk and have been unable to. Today I was with a friend in a store that sells many types of foreign type foods, specializing in Indian, and just by chance stumbled upon half pound bags of poppy seeds. However, they were not black like I expected, they were very light yellow, almost white. I have never seen poppy seeds that looked like this nor have I ever heard of any white seeds. Has anyone ever used this type of seeds to make poppy seed tea, or are they worthless?
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Buy 'em and try em!

My guess is that the whiteness is particulate dust from the inside of the pods. If the seeds were harvested from fresh pods they could be really strong, i'd buy 2 but start with 1 bag and see how she goes. I saved my seeds from all the dried pods i'd used over the months and made a tea from 3lbs. of them but got nothing.

I've heard though that if the seeds were taken before the plant was completely dry they can be potent, but once dried they're useless. This sounds really weird i know, but i didn't believe the multiple posts about how "store bought seeds are washed in an attempt to get rid of goodies, but the goodies are actually washed ONTO the seeds in the process" I've done store bought seeds and self harvested and would take the spice rack over the dope man any day!

If on the other hand you're sure that the whiteness is not dust on the seeds but the color of the seeds themselves, i'd stay away as there's a good chance they're not Papaver Somniferum.

I haven't been fortunate enough to find any good Far East type groceries around me, but lucked out and found 4oz containers of seeds for 88 cents at a dollar type store. If you have places around you that are kind of a dollar store but not the sleazy-only-sell-cheap-plastic-shit-from-China type of place you should try that. It's not worth paying $5 per container at Hole Phoods or something.
 
Yeah I'm almost positive that the white color isn't dust, because I have seen "washed" poppy seeds before, they were still black but looked faded, I'm sure you know what I mean. These seeds I saw were completely yellowish white, there was no black or dark color in them whatsoever. Like the seeds themselves are actually yellow/white. I guess it couldn't hurt to try them but I'm kinda doubtful they will do anything. They're cheap though so it's not a big deal if they don't do anything. I just wish I could find somewhere that had the real deal!
 
I picked 11 poppy pods, and 9 of them are as small as grapes, and picked before the crown could rise to a leveled angle (so picked early lol). The petals fell off all the ones I picked. Is their a huge difference in potency of pods picked early? Can I still make an active tea?
 
^Yes, if they are somniferums and your tolerance is low.

The pods should be fine as long as they were not harvested way too early. Pods harvested too late can lose potency as well. Be careful when re-dosing with pods. The high tends to be delayed.
 
Alright, thanks man. How many pods should I dose in tea to test potency? They're grape size, and picked while flowers around it's garden still had petals. The crowns of 9 are down lol, hope that helps determine when I picked them.

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The seeds are usually washed and are very weak. I've tried multiple sources and got a dismal high at best. I'd recommend avoiding seeds however it's no secret that some people do manage to find a good source.

Seeds are also inherently dangerous: the amount of morphine they're coated with can vary dramatically especially if they're not washed--which is the only scenario where steeping seeds is worth your time.
 
So far I'm pretty disappointed with pod tea. I guess I may have just been unlucky and received a really shit batch, but I've yet to experience a decent, lengthy high from them and now find myself 'chasing the dragon' 1 week after my first attempt. I started with 2 large pods (about the size of a tennis ball) to test the waters, that got me nowhere; 5 pods gave me a feeling like a codeine high starting to come on for 30 minutes then died; 7 pods (3 large, 2 medium, and 2 smaller ones slightly bigger than golf balls) gave me a pretty nice high for about an hour, then I started nodding pretty hard for about an hour and then it went. So like I say I'm yet to feel anything close the the 12+ hour highs that have been reported. I've not even felt anything close to a proper opiate high for more than an hour.

I'm pretty sure I've got my recipe correct:

- boil 2 cups of water (about 650 - 700ml)
- allow water to cool for 10-15 minutes to avoid the possibility of destroying alkaloids with boiling water
- Add the water to desired amount of pods (grinded to a powder) and steep for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally
- filter through a sieve, straining the grounds to get all the water out

The resulting water has been very dark each time, with bits of grounds which made it through the sieve. What could be going wrong? I've been taking codeine about twice a week for the past few months and my tolerance is ~500mg, though I haven't had any since last sunday - 2 days before I first tried the pods. I would have thought, even with my tolerance that 7 pods would be enough, no? Someone in another thread suggested eating the grounds, which I did try with the leftover grounds after the attempt with 5 pods... but I would really rather not try that again, it was a struggle to say the least *shudder*.

Any thoughts on what could be going wrong with my tea? :(
 
adamgreen said:
hate to tell you, but those aren't p. somni.
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lol yes they are, already got a confirmation on shroomery man.

Anyways I'll just dose the tea with 8 of these pods:

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If anyone else thinks they're not somni's, holla, cause ya never know.
 
Naggers said:
I'm pretty sure I've got my recipe correct:

- boil 2 cups of water (about 650 - 700ml)
- allow water to cool for 10-15 minutes to avoid the possibility of destroying alkaloids with boiling water
- Add the water to desired amount of pods (grinded to a powder) and steep for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally
- filter through a sieve, straining the grounds to get all the water out
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I just use cold water straight from my water cooler and let it sit for an hour. My ritual is to swallow 3 cimetidine tablets, some diphenhydramine an hour prior. I'll probably add low doses of DXM to that routine soon. So I soak the grounds, occasionally stirring, in cold water for an hour.

In my experience the darker and more bitter the filtered solution is the more potent it is.

I also do a second wash that also lasts for an hour. If the second wash is significantly dark and bitter I do a third wash though this isn't common.
 
Naggers said:
So far I'm pretty disappointed with pod tea. I guess I may have just been unlucky and received a really shit batch, but I've yet to experience a decent, lengthy high from them and now find myself 'chasing the dragon' 1 week after my first attempt. I started with 2 large pods (about the size of a tennis ball) to test the waters, that got me nowhere; 5 pods gave me a feeling like a codeine high starting to come on for 30 minutes then died; 7 pods (3 large, 2 medium, and 2 smaller ones slightly bigger than golf balls) gave me a pretty nice high for about an hour, then I started nodding pretty hard for about an hour and then it went. So like I say I'm yet to feel anything close the the 12+ hour highs that have been reported. I've not even felt anything close to a proper opiate high for more than an hour.

I'm pretty sure I've got my recipe correct:

- boil 2 cups of water (about 650 - 700ml)
- allow water to cool for 10-15 minutes to avoid the possibility of destroying alkaloids with boiling water
- Add the water to desired amount of pods (grinded to a powder) and steep for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally
- filter through a sieve, straining the grounds to get all the water out

The resulting water has been very dark each time, with bits of grounds which made it through the sieve. What could be going wrong? I've been taking codeine about twice a week for the past few months and my tolerance is ~500mg, though I haven't had any since last sunday - 2 days before I first tried the pods. I would have thought, even with my tolerance that 7 pods would be enough, no? Someone in another thread suggested eating the grounds, which I did try with the leftover grounds after the attempt with 5 pods... but I would really rather not try that again, it was a struggle to say the least *shudder*.

Any thoughts on what could be going wrong with my tea? :(
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That's really, really odd. You can try potentiators (white grapefruit juice is the only one that worked for me, there's no consensus on Tagamet/cimetidine that i've found...some say it inhibits, some say it potentiates though maybe even up it to Benadryl/diphenhydramine)

So even at the very beginning you weren't able to catch a good buzz? Are you on any other medication? 7 pods the size of tennis balls gives you next to no effect but 500mg Codeine did? That just doesn't make ANY sense. The only other thing i can think is that somehow your pods are uber weak (picked at the wrong time - they should have intact crowns that are turned upward) or your water is too hot - put it on the stove and wait until it's too hot to hold your finger in for a 1/2 second, that's always been the test for me that worked.

Other than that i'd say take a week off and come back to it, if still no effect just give up.
 
You can tell by the tops (the caps in that image you posted on the last page) that those aren't somni, they look like papaver rhoeas. Go ahead and try it if you want though, doubt it will hurt. Probably just do nothing.



Naggers said:
So far I'm pretty disappointed with pod tea. I guess I may have just been unlucky and received a really shit batch
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I'm guessing this is the problem - everything looks OK with your method. Normal strength somni pods will only require a very few, but lately with the pod shortage there have been some very weak and/or old pods going around. I've talked to a few SWIMs who have had the same problem lately.
 
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adamgreen said:
You can tell by the tops (the caps in that image you posted on the last page) that those aren't somni, they look like papaver rhoeas. Go ahead and try it if you want though, doubt it will hurt. Probably just do nothing.






I'm guessing this is the problem - everything looks OK with your method. Normal strength somni pods will only require a very few, but lately with the pod shortage there have been some very weak and/or old pods going around. I've talked to a few SWIMs who have had the same problem lately.
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No it was another poster who put up the pick of the pods that look like mini-granny smith apples.
 
Cheers for the thoughts, guess if there's nothing wrong with my method I must have just been unlucky or a victim of the great pod shortage. I'll see if I'm feeling brave later in the week and throw like 15 into one batch of tea, in the vain hope I'll get something decent from it. Don't worry, I'm all about HR, I'll drink it slowly ;).

When using 15 pods in one tea, how much water would you recommend I use? It sucks having to drink 700ml as it is, I don't want to have to battle my way through much more! I guess after this last attempt I'll just have to wait for the next harvest and hope I get to experience what pod tea has to offer sometime soon.

Thanks again for replying :)
 
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