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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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^ Yep, Those are definitely Papaver Somniferum pods no doubt. They look rather decent too. Though I'm not sure if 2-3 pods is enough for a cuppa. Those pods look a bit on the small side if I am not mistaken? Now, I don't want to advocate taking "Heroic" doses of opiates here but try Brewing maybe 10 or so pods and drink the brew in increments of 1/8 at a time, in 30 minute intervals. Good luck.
 
Awesome thanks for the reply!

I was super cautious to start out with so I only tried a couple. Have a brew of 5 pods (6 tbsp) cooking up now. Going to sip on that and see how things go in about 10 minutes when it's done!

I'll post a picture of the resulting brew so maybe someone can let me know if the coloring is off or not. I'm being a little paranoid about it all but I get that way when in the land of the unknown. :P

Thanks again good sir!
 
Yeah, nothing wrong with being cautious in such unknown territory. I suppose color of tea depends on how much water you are actually using. I always tested strength of tea by tasting how bitter it is. The more bitter, the better. Also, I always made sure to enjoy a cuppa only after eating maybe an hour before hand. That is not the same for every one but, it always made sure my experience was at it's utmost potential:D Now I don't even brew tea anymore though, I just mix the pod powder with GF juice and down it. Good luck once again Morph.
 
Yeah I'm kind of doing a method that gets the best of both worlds. I read that the tea hits faster but eating the grounds insures you get all of the good stuff in ya. So I've been brewing the tea and then I swallow mouth fulls of the grounds I used with swigs of tea/soda to get it all down.

Anyway here's the tea and the resulting moosh after the brewing was done. Nothing wildly out of place I hope!

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I'm going to drink about half of the tea and wait 30-45 min then the other half, wait a bit, then I'll start downing the moosh if I still feel like I need more. This one was a fair bit darker than the 3 pod brew so I'm pretty sure my fears were for naught.

Pretty much trying to get a base line idea of what sort of dose I'll need to feel nice and fuzzy since this is my first go at it.
 
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Boy I can't wait till my package gets here. It's the biggest one I have ever ordered to date. It should be here within a week or so. I just can't wait to see how this seasons crop will turn out. I think pod quality has been not so bueno since like......'06 or '07.

Morph, I hope your experiments concluded to your liking=0) That tea looked decent.......I could almost taste it, all warm and......in a mug....mmmmm mmmmmmmmm bitch!! hahaha cheers!
 
Haha, yeah sorry I haven't gotten around to posting the results, I've been enjoying my new found gift. I ended up drinking the entire mug and a couple hours later downed the grounds.

It was fucking amazing. I had a wonderful day and the effects lasted the entire time. I am thoroughly impressed with this batch I acquired to test the waters. I am also incredibly blown away by the legs and powerful analgesia these pods from the gods contain. Having very extensive experience with pretty much every opiate/oid out there from tramadol to fentanyl I really must say this is one of my favorites. (I never did IV, I'm way too much of a puss and tbh I am scared where that would lead if I did, as good as it sounds I could see myself getting lost quick.)

I took 1... ONE 50mg tramadol all day today... normally I need around 700-1000mg just to maintain and stay out of pain.. and I only took that to be safe in case these "brain zaps" I hear about reared their ugly head. I can see myself kicking the trams for good very, VERY soon. 6 tbsp of pod material made into tea and later eaten kept me smiling and pain free from morning till night.

I know I'm essentially trading one addiction for another.. but seeing as I have to use something that works for my back injury anyway it might as well be the most natural and safest alternative I can get. Not to mention cheap and easy to acquire.

Thanks so much for your help sir and the other couple of guys who helped me with my questions. You guys are my heroes!

Let me know if yours look/preform similar.. that certainly would bode well for this years harvest! I look forward to tipping back one with ya mate! Cheers!
 
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MorphFiend said:
Haha, yeah sorry I haven't gotten around to posting the results.

It was fucking amazing. I had a wonderful day and the effects lasted the entire time. I am thoroughly impressed with this batch of pods I got to test the waters. I am also incredibly blown away by the legs and powerful analgesia these gifts from the gods contain.

I took 1... ONE 50mg tramadol all day today... normally I need around 700-1000mg just to maintain and stay out of pain.. and I only took that to be safe in case these "brain zaps" I hear about reared their ugly head. I can see myself kicking the trams for good very, VERY soon.

I know I'm essentially trading one addiction for another.. but seeing as I have to use something that works for my back injury anyway it might as well be the most natural and safest alternative I can get. Not to mention cheap and easy to acquire.

Thanks so much for your help sir and the other couple of guys who helped me with my questions. You guys are my heroes!
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I dont mean to burst your bubble, so to speak, but starting up a relationship with poppy pods is actually a step in the wrong direction. In fact its much worse than an addiction to tramadol, or even vicodin, or sometimes even oxy.

the poppy pods contain most of the opiate alkoloids that naturally occur in this plant.....most of these alkoloids arent even utilized and sold as drugs, there are dozens of them inside a pod. But my point is, having an addiction(even a minor addiction) to pods usually causes some of the most severe withdrawal symptoms because you are not just withdrawing from one or two opiates, but dozens of different opiate alkaloids. I know many people who tried pods, thinking they would be a safer alternative to oxy or something like that, and they ended up with some of the worth withdrawals imagineable....atleast thats how they describe it to me. It wasnt until after they quit using the pods when they read all that info about the extra alkoloids.

*these alkoloids are also a reason as to why the poppy pod tea feels so good. You got dozens of opiates working on your brains receptors....its like a buffet of seratonin releasing chemicals.
 
Yes I know, I have read all three mega threads, as previously stated, and know very well what the cold turkey withdraws would be like, and why they would be that way.

My entire goal, as stated earlier, was to get off tramadol, as I am currently needing an incredibly high dose just to stay out of pain. Doses that could easily give me a seizure and kill me.

I know very well what the consequences are of this drug. I have been dealing with opiates for over 20 years now. I am not as misinformed as you are trying to imply.

I am VERY practiced in managing my resources and take every precaution necessary to keep cold turkey from ever happening.. and even on the extreme chance that it does I have other methods of dealing with it. However, in the end I would MUCH rather deal with some terrible withdraws than possibly have a seizure and die.

I have dealt with w/d many many times in my life when I was younger and much less experienced. This has already been considered extensively. However, thank you for your concern.

The fact that pods will prove to be a much safer and effective alternative to tramadol is undeniable, for me. I am by NO means saying they are the best, or that the w/ds are anything to laugh at.. but in my current financial situation these things are a life saver.
 
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Yes I know, I have read all threed mega threads, as previously stated, and know very well what the cold turkey withdraws would be like.

My entire goal, as stated earlier, was to get off tramadol as I was currently needing incredibly high doses just to stay out of pain. Doses that could easily give me a seizure and kill me.

I know very well what the consequences are of this drug. I have been dealing with opiates for over 20 years now. I am not as misinformed as you are trying to imply.

I am VERY practiced in managing my resources and take every precaution necessary to keep cold turkey from ever happening.. and even on the extreme chance that it does I have other methods of dealing with it. However, in the end I would MUCH rather deal with some terrible withdraws than possibly have a seizure and die.

I have dealt with w/d many many times in my life when I was younger and much less experienced. This has already been considered extensively. However, thank you for your concern.
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I think you misread my post. Not once did I imply you were misinformed....i just didnt know if you were informed on that particular bit of info, and in case you werent, I was "informing" you to help you out.

I also was responding to your post about how this was probably your most "natural and safe alternative" to tramadol....and I was merely showing that it, in fact, was probably not the safest alternative. I would think vicodin or maybe low dose oxy, or even low dose suboxone would be a better alternative.

I know from experience that low dose suboxone works wonders for pain but doesnt have the drawback of physical addiction.

just tryin to help....thats all....sry if your upset with my posts.
 
I would very much like to see a PM Dr. to see about sub(I think this drug is a miracle from what I've read about it and seen it do for friends.) or possibly one of the others you listed.. but this is currently not an option for me.

Hopefully in the near future.. but for the time being pods will do the job and get me off tramadol. Baby steps!

I wasn't upset with your post, sorry if I came off that way. Text is a terrible medium at times!

I do appreciate you trying to watch my back, thank you sooo much for that. You guys and this forum are such an invaluable tool to so many like me and quite frankly have probably saved many lives and prevented countless hardships.

I cannot thank you enough.
 
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I dont mean to burst your bubble, so to speak, but starting up a relationship with poppy pods is actually a step in the wrong direction. In fact its much worse than an addiction to tramadol, or even vicodin, or sometimes even oxy.

the poppy pods contain most of the opiate alkoloids that naturally occur in this plant.....most of these alkoloids arent even utilized and sold as drugs, there are dozens of them inside a pod. But my point is, having an addiction(even a minor addiction) to pods usually causes some of the most severe withdrawal symptoms because you are not just withdrawing from one or two opiates, but dozens of different opiate alkaloids. I know many people who tried pods, thinking they would be a safer alternative to oxy or something like that, and they ended up with some of the worth withdrawals imagineable....atleast thats how they describe it to me. It wasnt until after they quit using the pods when they read all that info about the extra alkoloids.

*these alkoloids are also a reason as to why the poppy pod tea feels so good. You got dozens of opiates working on your brains receptors....its like a buffet of seratonin releasing chemicals.
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You are mostly correct James, in that substituting poppy tea for Tramadol would create a more powerful opiate addiction. This is not so much due to the number of opiates, but the potency of the SUM TOTAL of them, of which morphine is the most potent. Since all opiates stimulate the same (Mu) receptors to a lesser or greater degree, certain 'analogs' like Suboxone can be substituted to combat addiction and wean off more powerful opiates. Weaning is the best way, but still involves some discomfort.

Also, I have not read that poppy tea has significant SNRI activity; if so it could be dangerous (due to serotonin flood) to combine with an effexor-like compound (as well as other similar antidepressants) such as Tramadol. Two other medicinal non-narcotic alkaloids present in poppy are Noscapine and papervine, which have proved beneficial for other conditions. Thus, potency and tolerance have much more to do with the severity of any addiction, than the actual substance involved (with certain notable exceptions), meaning that the stronger opiates pack a bigger punch and it takes less of them to get strongly addicted.

My advice is to try to wean down as low as you can on a less addictive substitute before you jump off the train (cold turkey).

Best Wishes
 
OH MY POD GOD!!! Yes, poppy WD's are soooo nasty, especially if you are ingesting the grounds daily. I remember I did grounds everyday for 3 yrs. straight and never really experienced any WD's cold turkey. There were times when I would be without pods for 1, maybe 2 days but always had stems and vic's or something. Then my package didn't show up one day!! I paid for the next day air and the pods still didn't show up for 2 weeks. I even ordered some from another vendor with next day air, and those didn't show up for 2 weeks as well. I don't know if that was some sort of omni-present devine intervention of sorts but, I got fired from work from not being able to show up and the vicodin alone werent cutting it. All I could do was lay in bed alllll day, not sleeping or eating, legs twitching like mad, just fucking dying inside. My girlfriend broke up with me since I couldn't spend any time with her or lend any attention her way what so ever. FUCK. Two weeks straight of PURE Hell. Worst feeling ever..........I remember the pods finally showing up at my door step and the physical WD's were finally threw. I was contemplating throwing them out, and just put the box away. 24 hours later though I succumbed to lady Papaver.

Oh the sweet, sweet warm embrace that so seemingly enforces oh so long legged solice. I was much too weak to be strong, after all..... I had to find a job and confess my everlasting love to the ex. and finally paint a smile on my face. I am still weak and cannot deny thine opium romance.

It sucks that pods are my #1 DOC too. Though I Loooove OxyDose and Dillies and Roxi's very much too. I have no access to that stuff anymore though. Unless I am willing to spend my entire paycheck for just a weeks worth of it.

Tramadol is something else. 700-1000 mgs daily huh? Jeez that's alot alright, I used to be hooked on that shite too. It's better than being sober i suppose. But I remember it would affect my vision, making everything appear very blurry at times. It did have that weird psych med type feeling to it. That would explain that dirty, chemically feeling I had on it though. That stuff works pretty good for Pod WD's though.

Is it possible to actually die on Tramadol though from a seizure?
 
yea you can die from a tramadol seizure, allthough its unlikely unless you live in the middle of nowhere, literally.

Also....when you finally got your pods in the mail and dosed them......did it feel even stronger than they would have if you hadnt taken a 2 week break?....i would imagine your tolerance went down atleast some and that caused the best high you got from the pods in a long time....no?
 
I've read it here that it is. My wife has a pretty decent background in medicine, she's a Dr of PT, and says that it would be possible, among many other terrible results from a particularly bad seizure. She''s not a MD but she took a lot of the same classes they did so I'd take her information over most people any day. The risk was just too scary for me. Withdraws I can, and have, handled. Seizures, no thanks!

I'm not going to lie and say I don't do drugs for the high as well. I am an addict in that sense, 100%. So pods give me a better buzz and killer pain relief without the seizure possibility.

I agree it is NOT the best solution, but I do find it better than my previous one.

Anyway, I didn't make anymore pod stew today, I woke up still feeling quite well and made it all the way until an hour ago then pop'd a couple trams. I'm back to feeling normal and about to make tomorrows dose up and drink that in the morning.. hopefully I still have enough of the pods in my system and won't need to re dose anymore tram in the night.

My plan is to take it very, very slow. Hopefully by the time a better solution is available to me it won't have gotten too far out of hand.

Tomorrow however will be a great day!
 
Holy crap I just discovered that consuming grapefruit juice DOES work and works so well that I can't believe I never attempted drinking it before with my poppy pod tea. For anyone out there that has been consuming legit pods and either had a weird high that took at least an hour and a half to an hour to come on, I highly recommend consuming a glass of grapefruit juice 30 minutes before you dose and drink another glass with your dose. The quality of the high is so different and so much better than what I previously have been experiencing.

I've read through all three Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Threads and I've gathered lots of information but have remained skeptical to a few things due to all of the conflicting reports, but grapefruit juice with poppy pod tea is considered a requirement for me now after this experience. Here is what I used.

5 mini jumbo pods which was approximately 5 rounded tablespoons after powderized with a coffee grinder.

2 Cups of Simply Grapefruit Juice which claims to be Not From Concentrate. There is no indication about whether it's made from red grapefruits or white but it is a beautiful Pink color so it's most likely red.

This is exactly what I did.

30 minutes before consuming the grinds, I drank a large cup of grapefruit juice.

I then proceeded to add the 5 tablespoons of poppy pod grinds to another large glass of grapefruit juice. After it was thoroughly mixed, I drank it down with NO problem at all. I know that this is a form of a toss and wash and some people aren't into consuming the grinds but I will repeating this method every time from now on. To give you an idea about what type of tolerance I already have to opiates, I will list the typical doses that get me off in pill form. 40-50mg oral hydrocodone is required to give me a "decent" little buzz and I usually insufflate at least 30mg oxycodone to feel anything but 60mg gets me buzzing really nicely. I don't see the need to dicksize and explain the heroic doses that I have achieved and are honestly not proud of, but like I said I'm hoping to give someone an idea about what it takes to get me off to hopefully allow you to make a safer decision about the amount you consume.

The biggest difference was that I actually started feeling fuzzy in 40 minutes while every time before took like 2 HOURS and I always had a very WEIRD come-up. I felt very anxious and I would flush due to the histamine reaction. A little advice from someone who has read all of the megathreads, Grapefruit juice is a must for this. Oh, and 5 pods I used which equaled to 5 tablespoons may be WAY to strong for someone without a tolerance so please start out with 1 tablespoon, 2 at most. At the 1 hour mark I pretty much got an idea about how strong the pods were. I'd say that these 5 pods are on par with 80mg hydrocodone taken orally or 60mg oxycodone insulllated. Stay hydrated and be safe and USE grapefruit juice lol :)
 
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yea you can die from a tramadol seizure, allthough its unlikely unless you live in the middle of nowhere, literally.

Also....when you finally got your pods in the mail and dosed them......did it feel even stronger than they would have if you hadnt taken a 2 week break?....i would imagine your tolerance went down atleast some and that caused the best high you got from the pods in a long time....no?
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Jeez....I didn't know you could actually die from tram seizures. Maybe the pods are a grand substitute for your pain management then Morph. But yeah James Brown, when I finally got those pods in the mail it was like......DAMMIT!! I was done with the Hellish WD's and didn't want to be a slave anymore but, I couldn't resist this Box-O-Heaven you know? So I gave in and WOW!!!! lemme just say.........The sweet is never as sweet without the sour. I remember it being a particularly good batch of pods too. My tolerance was gone and after just a small cuppa I was a new man!! That's one of the things I learned about myself, as pathetic sounding as it may be, some of the BEST times of my life consisted of me spending the first 2/3's of a day dopesick as fuck, pucking and shitting my ass off, with no relief in sight, then........I hear the UPS truck's squeaking brakes out front of my house and watch as the UPS guy is approaching my door with a big box followed by the *ding-dong* Me Running toward the door, receiving my bounty of redemption and thrashing about the kitchen in search of my coffee grinder. Aside from that glorious euphoria of poppies, just the act of knowing I was gonna go from HELL directly to HEAVEN was so thrilling!! It was like winning the lottery. And if you take all the times I have been through that same scenario, I know what it feels like to win the lottery 57 times over:)
 
return of the jumbo pods?

From reading around this thread, I've found a general consensus that pods, especially the jumbo varieties, have been harder to come by these past few (months?). I've also seen some supplier sites saying the bigger pods should become available in early October. I'm curious to compare them to the small ones I've been getting.

Is this a seasonal thing? (I'm new to this.) Are people generally seeing the availability of jumbo pods in decline and is this supposed to turn itself around sometime soon?

Just wanting something to look forward to...
 
nighttrain1983 said:
From reading around this thread, I've found a general consensus that pods, especially the jumbo varieties, have been harder to come by these past few (months?). I've also seen some supplier sites saying the bigger pods should become available in early October. I'm curious to compare them to the small ones I've been getting.

Is this a seasonal thing? (I'm new to this.) Are people generally seeing the availability of jumbo pods in decline and is this supposed to turn itself around sometime soon?

Just wanting something to look forward to...
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My usual vendor tells me that the reason theres been a huge shortage on pods esp on the larger ones is because its been unusually humid during this years growing season/harvest and there were not a whole lot of large pods that were able to develop because of this.

They also said their not ordering from their usual Arizona farm right now and have had to look elsewhere but didn't say why. Also not sure if the new farm is another one from Arizona or 1 of the Washington farms.

I'm assuming your talking about all these small by the pound bags that I have been seeing a lot for sale on various sites, how is the quality on those? I'm thinking of trying some out, but I don't know if their going to end up being just as weak as some of the mediums I just ordered.

The vendor I go through only has mediums for sale right now and those are not very good at all. I don't feel anything while taking them, even a really large amount. They look a lot different then what I'm used to getting. These are really skinny and oblong in shape instead of the fat round/oval shaped ones I would normally get, and theres really not a real heavy odor or taste to the tea at all. Its still a light sort of brownish color but its like drinking regular water compared to the extremley bitter liquid I would get out of the good pods back before the shortage.

If you do end up ordering some of the larger pods when they come in early October let us know if their any good. I'm trying to find a new place to order from right now, thinking of also trying the larger ones when they ship in, i'll post the results when they come.
 
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