erm no, your ment to just leave the ground up poppies in a mug/glass/jug of water, leave them there to soak for a bit then pour through filter/tshirt into a mug and drink. As for how much water, i found around 400-500ml works better than anything else ive tried. This is for around 6-10 pods, how are you even ment to fit in such small amounts?
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The-Opiate-Rush
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ye but in other threads they say they plug 5ml, if you use too much water, the water isnt absorbed for hours. i would easily drink but it doesnt work no more, tbh it only worked for a little while like a 3 month period and i was up to like 10 pods, and even if i increased to 15 still didnt work. Pods are so subjective, i mean i plugged 2 days ago and felt amazing, i use same amount, same size and nufin, i do everything the exact same and i have NO IDEA why i dont feel the same feeling, i mean were those 4 pods plugged special at the top of my new box and the rest are just shit? they look the same. So so so frustrated, i put all that work in for nothing.
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teeny tiny pods
Do any of you regular users have experience with very tiny pods? Are they as effective at similar doses as "large" or "jumbo" pods? Any tips on prepping them before grinding? I thought maybe cutting them open with scissors, rather than yanking off the stem and cracking them open.
Thanks for any info. I have never seen pods anywhere near this small before. I hope they "work" the way larger pods do.
Do any of you regular users have experience with very tiny pods? Are they as effective at similar doses as "large" or "jumbo" pods? Any tips on prepping them before grinding? I thought maybe cutting them open with scissors, rather than yanking off the stem and cracking them open.
Thanks for any info. I have never seen pods anywhere near this small before. I hope they "work" the way larger pods do.
chessgames73
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PPT with Kratom
A wonderful combination for a euphoric, but non-incapacitating high, is weak poppy tea and Kratom. Also, tolerance is much less likely to develop, and you can switch to Kratom alone to wean off the mix. Individually, I'm extremely sensitive to opiates, so 2-3 grams of poppy material (I typically use 18 grams of flower material to brew 6 cups) with 3 grams of Kratom sends me up, up and away on a beautiful balloon.
This is what I use to brew the poppy tea:
18 grams of powdered poppy
6 cups of reverse osmosis filtered water
1 gram of dissolved vitamin C
3-4 cap fulls of real lemon juice
2 capsules of ginseng
1000 mcg of B-12
I boil the 6 cups of water and let cool for a bit, so it's barely bubbling, dissolve the vitamin C, add the ginseng, lemon juice and powdered B-12...
then I add the 18 grams of ground pod material, and steep covered for about 2 hours, stirring occasionally.
Next, I strain the pod material and press out the absorbed water, saving it for a brew of 3 cups.
This yields a total of 9 cups of poppy tea.
I freeze what I do not drink right away to preserve freshness, except for a cup or two which I refrigerate while one is thawing
Imbibition:
When I'm ready to imbibe, I weigh out 3 grams of bali Kratom, add it to a coffee cup, then pour the poppy tea on top, heat it in the microwave until pleasantly warmed (don't overheat), and stir with a teaspoon until the concoction is well mixed.
Helpful hint:
Keep stirring the mix before each gulp to keep the Kratom powder suspended (you don't want it to settle at the bottom before you finish your drink). The drink tastes yucky, but is really not all that bad. I have a close friend that I drink it with, and the lemon juice helps a lot.
Safety:
Get a cheap digital scale (less than ten bucks at Amazon), and use it religiously. When you get a new batch, grind it all up and mix it together before you weigh out your pod powder. This ensures that each brew from that batch will be equally potent. Start with 3-5 grams per cup (or less if you have a low tolerance like me), and drink a little bit and wait an hour to see what happens. Better to feel little or nothing because you can always drink more, if you need a booster.
Frequency:
Since PPT is addictive it's probably best to drink it no more than 2-3 times a week. Also, PPT has other compounds that may be beneficial for certain conditions. For example, Noscapine may help prevent prostate and other types of cancers. Everything in moderation, i say.
For those who try the poppy/kratom mix, let me know what you think.
A wonderful combination for a euphoric, but non-incapacitating high, is weak poppy tea and Kratom. Also, tolerance is much less likely to develop, and you can switch to Kratom alone to wean off the mix. Individually, I'm extremely sensitive to opiates, so 2-3 grams of poppy material (I typically use 18 grams of flower material to brew 6 cups) with 3 grams of Kratom sends me up, up and away on a beautiful balloon.
This is what I use to brew the poppy tea:
18 grams of powdered poppy
6 cups of reverse osmosis filtered water
1 gram of dissolved vitamin C
3-4 cap fulls of real lemon juice
2 capsules of ginseng
1000 mcg of B-12
I boil the 6 cups of water and let cool for a bit, so it's barely bubbling, dissolve the vitamin C, add the ginseng, lemon juice and powdered B-12...
then I add the 18 grams of ground pod material, and steep covered for about 2 hours, stirring occasionally.
Next, I strain the pod material and press out the absorbed water, saving it for a brew of 3 cups.
This yields a total of 9 cups of poppy tea.
I freeze what I do not drink right away to preserve freshness, except for a cup or two which I refrigerate while one is thawing
Imbibition:
When I'm ready to imbibe, I weigh out 3 grams of bali Kratom, add it to a coffee cup, then pour the poppy tea on top, heat it in the microwave until pleasantly warmed (don't overheat), and stir with a teaspoon until the concoction is well mixed.
Helpful hint:
Keep stirring the mix before each gulp to keep the Kratom powder suspended (you don't want it to settle at the bottom before you finish your drink). The drink tastes yucky, but is really not all that bad. I have a close friend that I drink it with, and the lemon juice helps a lot.
Safety:
Get a cheap digital scale (less than ten bucks at Amazon), and use it religiously. When you get a new batch, grind it all up and mix it together before you weigh out your pod powder. This ensures that each brew from that batch will be equally potent. Start with 3-5 grams per cup (or less if you have a low tolerance like me), and drink a little bit and wait an hour to see what happens. Better to feel little or nothing because you can always drink more, if you need a booster.
Frequency:
Since PPT is addictive it's probably best to drink it no more than 2-3 times a week. Also, PPT has other compounds that may be beneficial for certain conditions. For example, Noscapine may help prevent prostate and other types of cancers. Everything in moderation, i say.
For those who try the poppy/kratom mix, let me know what you think.
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am i doing something wrong?
Hi,
Tried making PPT for the 1st time last night. Having read lots of different recipes, and being generally terrible at anything that involves cooking or chemistry, I kept it pretty simple--de-seeded & ground 5 pods (each roughly the size of a large Greek olive) into a pretty fine, sandy-colored powder; boiled 2 cups of water & removed from heat; steeped & stirred for about 15 minutes; filtered and drank.
And after 1/2 hour or so, basically nothing. Proceeded from there to French press, mixing powder with yogurt, eating the tea dregs (ew, but not intolerable). The most I got was a warmth in my thighs, stomach, and back of neck, and a mild goofy-happy feeling. But no strong euphoria, no itching or nausea, and kinda most sadly, none of that familiar little opiate "ping!"/taste at the back of my throat that I remembered so fondly from days of the stronger stuff.
Could anyone please advise on how to maximize the rest of my pods? I've got about a pound of these small light-brown ones (supplier claims equivalent to 25-30 "jumbo"). Is this mostly a matter of quantity (just use more) or maybe timing (do all at once instead of spreading out over hours)? Do any of the claimed potentiators (lemon juice? tagamet?) really make a difference? Is this just a bad time for pods (these little guys were all this supplier had in stock)?
I'd just like to get a nice, "oh yeah there it is" kind of high (and one for my husband), at least once. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi,
Tried making PPT for the 1st time last night. Having read lots of different recipes, and being generally terrible at anything that involves cooking or chemistry, I kept it pretty simple--de-seeded & ground 5 pods (each roughly the size of a large Greek olive) into a pretty fine, sandy-colored powder; boiled 2 cups of water & removed from heat; steeped & stirred for about 15 minutes; filtered and drank.
And after 1/2 hour or so, basically nothing. Proceeded from there to French press, mixing powder with yogurt, eating the tea dregs (ew, but not intolerable). The most I got was a warmth in my thighs, stomach, and back of neck, and a mild goofy-happy feeling. But no strong euphoria, no itching or nausea, and kinda most sadly, none of that familiar little opiate "ping!"/taste at the back of my throat that I remembered so fondly from days of the stronger stuff.
Could anyone please advise on how to maximize the rest of my pods? I've got about a pound of these small light-brown ones (supplier claims equivalent to 25-30 "jumbo"). Is this mostly a matter of quantity (just use more) or maybe timing (do all at once instead of spreading out over hours)? Do any of the claimed potentiators (lemon juice? tagamet?) really make a difference? Is this just a bad time for pods (these little guys were all this supplier had in stock)?
I'd just like to get a nice, "oh yeah there it is" kind of high (and one for my husband), at least once. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
chessgames73
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Try adding 2-3grams of Kratom
Nighttrain, Kratom is perfect for boosting a weak brew of poppy tea; they seem to work together (at least for me), and give you a strong euphoria. For safety, start out by adding 2-3 grams of Kratom to a weak, not a strong, PPT brew. Mixing them together can save you money because you don't need as much of either.
Good luck.
Nighttrain, Kratom is perfect for boosting a weak brew of poppy tea; they seem to work together (at least for me), and give you a strong euphoria. For safety, start out by adding 2-3 grams of Kratom to a weak, not a strong, PPT brew. Mixing them together can save you money because you don't need as much of either.
Good luck.
I know those exact pods you are talking about. Simply put: you need to use more of them.
For a non-tolerant person, I'd say about 2 tablespoons worth of grounds would be a good place to start. Then try another tablespoon or so each hour til you get where you want to be.
The annoying thing about those particular ones is that they are so small, removing the seeds from each one takes forever. I gave up with those particular ones and i just throw them in the blender, seeds and all. Then I eat 5 rounded tablespoons (I have a tolerance and that is a maintenance dose).
Hope that helps.
nighttrain1983
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Thanks!
I hadn't even heard of Kratom before, but seems worth investigating... maybe there's a thread.
Dorkchop--Is there any benefit to brewing or diluting in water, chemically speaking (retaining/releasing alkaloids)? Or is eating the powder just as good? B/c I'd much rather take the direct route--seems faster and leaves less room for mistakes in preparation...
I hadn't even heard of Kratom before, but seems worth investigating... maybe there's a thread.
Dorkchop--Is there any benefit to brewing or diluting in water, chemically speaking (retaining/releasing alkaloids)? Or is eating the powder just as good? B/c I'd much rather take the direct route--seems faster and leaves less room for mistakes in preparation...
chessgames73
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Kratom
NP, Night, email me if you want to know a good vendor for Kratom. If you can get past the taste, you're in for a pleasant ride.
NP, Night, email me if you want to know a good vendor for Kratom. If you can get past the taste, you're in for a pleasant ride.
From experience and what others say, brewing tea hits faster & stronger, but does not last as long. Not sure about the chemistry behind this.
Although, I eat grounds, mixed in juice or just water. And then I drink a LOT of water as soon as I ingest them. Like at least 32-48 oz. It always hits me within a half hour. And I know I am not "wasting" any alkaloids. I think that drinking that much water causes it to turn to "tea" in my tummy. Maybe I'm just imagining things, but it works for me...
I've read of others making tea and drinking it, then eating the mushy grounds later on, to get the best of both worlds - the stronger, faster onset of the tea, and the "legs" of the grounds.
Incidentally, another thing about eating grounds vs. drinking tea is that the fiber in the grounds helps infinitely with opiate constipation, for me anyway. When I used to only drink tea, going to the bathroom was often extremely brutal. Eating grounds: doing #2 is pretty normal.
MorphFiend
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Halp!
Hey BL, long time reader/first time poster here.
I am a very experienced opiate enthusiast however I am looking to move away from the pharm scene for a while.
Lately I have scaled back my use to almost non existence and stayed pretty clean for the last 4 months. The only thing I currently take daily is my Tramadol Rx, which I'm not even sure qualifies, although I do admit life without a least SOMETHING wouldn't be doable since my injury.
I have now read all three mega threads on pods, every last post. Took a few days but I did it! I have seen my questions touched on but never fully explained in any useful detail.
So I guess I really only have two questions as these three threads are oozing with information.
1. I have ordered my first batch of 40 large and cannot find any information on the website as to what strain/species they are. I am FAR too paranoid to call and ask if they're somnis so I'm curious if there are many other dried pods that look similar and if so are any of them incredibly bad to consume?
My plan was to order a small amount like I've done and test them to see if they're the real deal then go from there.. but I don't want to end up sick or worse from doing so.
I could post the picture from the website but I'm afraid that would be sourcing somehow and do not want to break any of the rules.
2. Would my tramadol tolerance affect my experience in any way? I am currently taking somewhere between 700 and 1000mg over the course of a day. (Terrible I know, I want to stop)
This is likely a dumb question but I've read it is an opiod so I was curious. If not my tolerance should be as low as it can get these days and pods may just be a real nice ride for me and allow me to drop the trams for a much safer alternative.
I know the whole process and to start very very low and go from there due to the variable potencies etc.
Thanks in advance! This website has been such a great tool for my friends and I over the years.
Hey BL, long time reader/first time poster here.
I am a very experienced opiate enthusiast however I am looking to move away from the pharm scene for a while.
Lately I have scaled back my use to almost non existence and stayed pretty clean for the last 4 months. The only thing I currently take daily is my Tramadol Rx, which I'm not even sure qualifies, although I do admit life without a least SOMETHING wouldn't be doable since my injury.
I have now read all three mega threads on pods, every last post. Took a few days but I did it! I have seen my questions touched on but never fully explained in any useful detail.
So I guess I really only have two questions as these three threads are oozing with information.
1. I have ordered my first batch of 40 large and cannot find any information on the website as to what strain/species they are. I am FAR too paranoid to call and ask if they're somnis so I'm curious if there are many other dried pods that look similar and if so are any of them incredibly bad to consume?
My plan was to order a small amount like I've done and test them to see if they're the real deal then go from there.. but I don't want to end up sick or worse from doing so.
I could post the picture from the website but I'm afraid that would be sourcing somehow and do not want to break any of the rules.
2. Would my tramadol tolerance affect my experience in any way? I am currently taking somewhere between 700 and 1000mg over the course of a day. (Terrible I know, I want to stop)
This is likely a dumb question but I've read it is an opiod so I was curious. If not my tolerance should be as low as it can get these days and pods may just be a real nice ride for me and allow me to drop the trams for a much safer alternative.
I know the whole process and to start very very low and go from there due to the variable potencies etc.
Thanks in advance! This website has been such a great tool for my friends and I over the years.
chessgames73
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Tramadol
Morph, Tramadol combines an antidepressant along with a 'pro-drug' that your liver transforms into an opiate. At your dose, trying to substitute PPT might prevent the opiate withdrawal symptoms, but won't prevent the 'brain zaps' that many report from the SNRI (serotonin, nor-epiniphrine) effect.
With Tramadol it's probably best to wean down over a few weeks or a month to 50-100 mg before you try to go cold turkey (if this is an option). Substituting PPT might lead to a stronger opiate addiction as well. Tramadol is an insidious drug; I know, I was addicted to it, taking only 50-75 mg per day. It took about 8 days for the restless legs to stop when I went cold turkey. I wish I had known about Kratom then; it's used to battle mild to moderate opiate addiction.
Again, with Tramadol, you'd do best by weaning off it slowly.
Best Wishes.
Morph, Tramadol combines an antidepressant along with a 'pro-drug' that your liver transforms into an opiate. At your dose, trying to substitute PPT might prevent the opiate withdrawal symptoms, but won't prevent the 'brain zaps' that many report from the SNRI (serotonin, nor-epiniphrine) effect.
With Tramadol it's probably best to wean down over a few weeks or a month to 50-100 mg before you try to go cold turkey (if this is an option). Substituting PPT might lead to a stronger opiate addiction as well. Tramadol is an insidious drug; I know, I was addicted to it, taking only 50-75 mg per day. It took about 8 days for the restless legs to stop when I went cold turkey. I wish I had known about Kratom then; it's used to battle mild to moderate opiate addiction.
Again, with Tramadol, you'd do best by weaning off it slowly.
Best Wishes.
MorphFiend
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Thanks Chess I can and will do exactly that! I really appreciate the response.
Edit: I guess to try and answer my other question I can just post pictures I took of the pods when they come in and hopefully get some opinions. However I would still like to know if there are any terribly bad "pods" out there to consume that look similar as I'm almost 99% sure what I ordered looks right. (Other than the obviously moldy and/or rotted pod)
Edit: I guess to try and answer my other question I can just post pictures I took of the pods when they come in and hopefully get some opinions. However I would still like to know if there are any terribly bad "pods" out there to consume that look similar as I'm almost 99% sure what I ordered looks right. (Other than the obviously moldy and/or rotted pod)
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doIhavePotential
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1lb if seeds and I'm still itching 12 hours later, is this normal? i still have a slight buzz from yesterday.
MorphFiend
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So they came in today. They look normal, like most of the pictures I've seen around.
To test the waters before I ground them all up I just used 2 pods as I've seen this agreed on as a safe test dose before.
I did the standard bring 2 cups of water to a boil, let it cool a sec to just under boiling then add the pod powder and stir. Let it steep for 30 min occasionally stirring.
My questions start here: The pod material had really mooshed up by this point and the water was a very yellow/brown color. Is this normal for 2 medium sized pods in 2 cups of water?
I've drank most of the water after I let it cool about 20 min ago and still have the puddy and about 1/4th the water left in the cup.
I plan on waiting another 30-40 min and seeing how I feel then I will consume the rest of the water and the pod material unless I am baked(unlikely). This sound like a good plan?
The only thing I can see screwing this test up for me is this: I took my normal dose of Tramadol like 3 hours before these showed up, I wasn't expecting them at this time. So hopefully I can feel something that will let me know if they're working or not.
If not I'll wait until tomorrow morning and repeat this while I'm fresh before I've taken anything to see if that makes a difference.
Edit: I'm pretty sure I used too much water(2cups for 2 medium pods), so that would explain why the water is brown/yellowish instead of really dark like I've read in most places. It's been 50 minutes now and I "think" I'm starting to feel something. This could very well be placebo from me really wanting this to work out.
To test the waters before I ground them all up I just used 2 pods as I've seen this agreed on as a safe test dose before.
I did the standard bring 2 cups of water to a boil, let it cool a sec to just under boiling then add the pod powder and stir. Let it steep for 30 min occasionally stirring.
My questions start here: The pod material had really mooshed up by this point and the water was a very yellow/brown color. Is this normal for 2 medium sized pods in 2 cups of water?
I've drank most of the water after I let it cool about 20 min ago and still have the puddy and about 1/4th the water left in the cup.
I plan on waiting another 30-40 min and seeing how I feel then I will consume the rest of the water and the pod material unless I am baked(unlikely). This sound like a good plan?
The only thing I can see screwing this test up for me is this: I took my normal dose of Tramadol like 3 hours before these showed up, I wasn't expecting them at this time. So hopefully I can feel something that will let me know if they're working or not.
If not I'll wait until tomorrow morning and repeat this while I'm fresh before I've taken anything to see if that makes a difference.
Edit: I'm pretty sure I used too much water(2cups for 2 medium pods), so that would explain why the water is brown/yellowish instead of really dark like I've read in most places. It's been 50 minutes now and I "think" I'm starting to feel something. This could very well be placebo from me really wanting this to work out.
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ArtVandelay
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Hey there! -New to the world of Seeds & Pods... wondering how much of a tolerance you or others may have and how much is needed w/ a mild, moderate, high, and extremely high opiate tolerance?! I have a fairly decent tolerance to opiates (including a horrible daily tram habit of 400 mg's) I could probably handle an OC 80 or a decent amount of Fent right now & be golden -Just tried a little less than 1 lb of tea (226 grams x2) a lil over an hour ago & only feeling a lil bit of a buzz... I don't wanna "over do it" as I know it can take a while for some people... Any input/advice would be greatly appreciated!
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ArtVandelay
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(also... sorry for bein a lurker w/ my official 1st post!)
Moredopamine
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A few of the good active poppy shops appear to be either overpriced or going out of business. A sad turn for the pod market, no doubt.
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That's certainly some unfortunate news, especially for someone like myself trying to get onto pods/seeds & off certain opiates... & not even knowing where to begin looking for a couple, trusted "real" papaver somniferum shops, doesn't help matters either! I wish Dr's, online sites, etc would just make it easier to get a hold of Sub! I can't win!!
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