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UK - Wave goodbye to your favourite legal chemicals!

Transform said:
It is not known. There is one mention of it online, in an interview. No news stories. It states that it was a high dose of both, intramuscularly.
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Mate the original post, from the guy's sister I believe, is here:

https://www.flashback.org/t1298851p17

It's in Swedish but if you google translate you will see it was an intravenous dose. You will have to copy and paste the text as google won't translate https urls directly. Look for BridgeOfHope's posts.

Doses were 400mg MDAI, not 200mg as I failed to remember earlier, and ~80mg MXE - not massive although a biggish dose.

Edit: Actually 400mg of MDAI is probably quite a lot in your vein!
 
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Transform said:
This means, in theory, you could still be arrested and charged for having more than one dose in your possession.
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Wouldn't it be more likely to be the "importation for personal use" rule where you can have 3-6 months of steroids in your possession for example?
 
Ah thanks, that's probably why I could never find it on google too.

Highish doses, injected, and possibly early synths which weren't totally pure? I would tread cuatiously, but having heard nothing more and having heard it combines ok with other SSRAs I wouldn't be petrified.
 
People tend to infer generalisations from specific instances too readily. I remember when mephedrone was first getting big, people were banging on about how dangerous it was to smoke weed with it because one Swedish girl died after taking both.
 
Still nothing has been named/listed. I wonder if it might be a while before any bans are initiated. Careful use will probably extend this a bit. Many of the current chemicals out there don't seem to have reputations for abuse, so there might be some hope yet...
 
AMT would be the only huge loss. Haven't done 6APB so can't really comment on that...
 
Looks as if one of the big vendors have already scaled back on their MDAI & are citing possible, coming regulation changes as one of the reasons. Strange because I would've thought MDAI would be the least of the governments concerns, but then, what else about the war on drugs is logical?

I think mpa, mxe & aMT are the most likely candidates for legislation at the moment, sadly...
 
Me wish you a mexxy christmas, Me wish you a mexxy christmas and an AMT new year
Big lines do we bring to make your heart sing
We wish you a mexxy christmas and amt new year

MD MDM MDMA OK

and remember to leave some minced pies out for santa on christmas eve, reindeer's need fuel to FLY
 
GodSpeedK said:
tbh, I much prefer the illegal ones. ;)
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For the most part, yes. But aMT gives the best illegals a damn good run for their money.

I personally will be pretty upset if they ban aMT and MPA. Everything else, I'm not so concerned about. aMT is such a beautiful chemical that I feel it needs to be kept legal, as it has so much potential.
 
I am concerned about them all, as a matter of principle, and especially about a handful of them which I've fallen in love with. Plus I'm not in regular touch with dealers of illegals.

MXE, aMT, MPA, O-DT, 3-MeO-all-of-them - I prefer any of them to MDMA and cocaine (whatever they sell as coke anyway, it's the stuff that makes you feel perkier then gradually less perky and then needy so you have to have more in a big vicious circle then once you run out you either buy more or you feel disgusting and shameful), which are the street drugs I have most commonly encountered. Ketamine's pretty fucking great but I don't see MXE as a ket replacement anyway.

LSD will always hold a special place as it was the first proper drug I took but I actually find the dissociatives more psychedelic in the right circumstances, more manageable and more flexible (Not that I would turn down LSD!) Right now I have a few to choose from.

But I will find ways to get my drugs even if my drugs are banned, shame I'll have to become a criminal to do so. Any cops reading, I'll kick your fucking cunts as you drag me kicking and screaming. Actually it's not your fault so I take that back! Cunts!
 
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clubberdude said:
For the most part, yes. But aMT gives the best illegals a damn good run for their money.

I personally will be pretty upset if they ban aMT and MPA. Everything else, I'm not so concerned about. aMT is such a beautiful chemical that I feel it needs to be kept legal, as it has so much potential.
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Agreed. Can't believe AMT hasn't been widely produced til now. It's amazing.
 
otm said:
Agreed. Can't believe AMT hasn't been widely produced til now. It's amazing.
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Eh, am I missing a trick with AMT? I've tried it a few times and it has always been decidedly...meh. No matter what dose. Goes on far too long.
 
I've been awake since Fri morning on base. Length ain't an issue for me LOL ;)
 
Si Ingwe said:
Looks as if one of the big vendors have already scaled back on their MDAI & are citing possible, coming regulation changes as one of the reasons. Strange because I would've thought MDAI would be the least of the governments concerns, but then, what else about the war on drugs is logical?
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I think that the discontinuation/running out of stock & not re-stocking of MDAI is a bit of a coincidence of factors. I have been reliably informed that the lab which was regarded as the producer of the best MDAI actually closed down in June, and their product is what has been widely on sale until it recently completely sold out. With the forthcoming legislation yet to specified it seems the vendors just arent bothering to find a new lab for MDAI as they suspect it will be scheduled. Maybe it just never sold that well anyway.

I have already ordered in some of the UK legals that i am interested in whilst they still readily available from reliable & trustworthy places. The only one i havent sampled is AMT. Not sure if it appeals to me atall, but i may order a little whilst its still easily available.
 
I think everyone is getting scared about this for the wrong reasons. Don't bite my head off until you finish my post, but I think this legislation is actually a GOOD THING!

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...gs/temporary-class-drug-factsheet?view=Binary

Some key points:
- They must consult with the ACMD first (aka, this isn't "ok we make xxx illegal tomorrow" like some people thought, and they have to base their decision on what the ACMD says, something they've not done much of before.)
- There aren't likely to be big blanket bans due to the ACMD taking a rather responsible approach and not wanting to criminalise drugs where their illegality will cause more problems than the drugs themselves
- Possession of these drugs will not be illegal unless they are placed under one of the other drug classes by the end of the 12 month period, only supply will - aka you can still get everything you need from abroad :)

I think because of those points this was actually a well thought up law, and while I don't think possession or supply of ANY drug should be illegal, this will be far better than what they did with Mephedrone, the 2C-*s etc.

It will suck for people like me who order drugs from the UK but live abroad, but it's not the end of the world there either.
 
JSPete said:
Eh, am I missing a trick with AMT? I've tried it a few times and it has always been decidedly...meh. No matter what dose. Goes on far too long.
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I've only tried aMT (or at least, what was sold to me as aMT from the 'reputable' vendors) twice. The first time, at about 15mg, with no effect. The second time, about 45mg (after a 2nd bump) which had me struggling to balance when walking due to what felt like the floor tilting for a while which then descended into sitting outside unable to move for about three hours whilst everything was confusing and colour spectrum went very monotone.

TLDR, it sucked.

Now, having read reports from others it sounds completely different to what I experienced. Is it worth having another go? I felt like total shit for hours after the worst three hours and woke up with a headache but if it was just a mislabeled baggie and they sent me 3-meo-pcp or something, which, I believe they had in stock at the time, then I wouldn't be adversed to trying again.

Thoughts?
 
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