UK Media misreported Methoxetamine Deaths.

[coolcucumber]

These are our bodies, our minds. If we can't be given the freedom to experiment in the way we want without fear of being violently aggressed against, then.. well, surely just alluding to the fact that violence is being used to control human behaviour should be illuminating enough already.

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

You can disagree, but that does not mean that on some level I am right.

Do you understand the difference between subjectivity and objectivity? First you said that it was just your personal opinion but now you're saying that "on some level [you] are right"? People overdose and/or die from using legal or over-the-counter drugs (e.g. Acetaminophen) but that doesn't mean they should be made illegal just because some people are incapable of using them responsibly. It is unfortunate that some people are uninterested in researching and carefully administering the chemicals they put into their bodies, but like TheAppleCore said, making those chemicals illegal does nothing but create more of a problem. If you haven't noticed, making drugs illegal does not make people desire to do them any less.

 

[Identity888]

Until weed, mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ketamine are legalized, why should MXE be legal? It is legal at the moment because it is a new substance. It will get banned in US and Europe in time.

It has too strong effect on the person to be sold in headshops and internet shops so easily while other drugs are kept hidden or cut. The RC market does not make any sense to me. It is just too good to be true. Cannot get a real apple? Try this analog, it tastes almost the same, however, it is experimental. Eat at your own risk.

 

[Transform]

Until alcohol is banned, why should MXE be banned? Prohibition does not function on logic, and to attempt to justify prohibition with logic is daft. You need to use appeals to emotion and sensationalism instead of rational arguments.

 

[Identity888]

I have never failed to get any illegal drug, if I really wanted it. Not just drug, any thing. The prohibition is a joke in the first place.

However, it has its' function. I do not have anything against banning the alcohol too. For the greater good of human kind.

Anyhow, I can agree with any opinion regarding this matter, because it is a complicated issue from any point you look at it. There is no point in defending my opinion.

 

[gymstud]

It doesn't stop ppl but its a lot easier to get beer than mdma
The reason prescription drugs are leagal is cos a profettional works out dose for you
Noone going to pay him to do it for recreational purpose

But that aside drugs should be a)legal b)regulated
It would a) cheeper to the state/tax payer b)safer for user/comunity c)but some very very nasty ppl
Out of bussiness (I've mixed some well shady ppl to score)

 

[amanitadine]

To the OP: thanks for this info, very interesting. Deaths due to Phenaz and Meth make much more sense than MXE!

I actually posted a question in EADD asking if anyone knew if there had been any CONFIRMED deaths in the UK from direct MXE toxicity,

Yes. Well, he had some natural and synthetic cannabinoids in his blood as well. And who knows his medical history or extenuating circumstances. His serum levels were like 16 times heavier than an (alive) heavier user, and around 60 times higher than the low end. From this perspective it sounds like it could be a bonafide overdose. Hiiiigh levels of mxe inside this dude. Shambles high! Don't have the Whole paper. .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23111916

 

[✰hyperobjects✰]

Yes. Well, he had some natural and synthetic cannabinoids in his blood as well. And who knows his medical history or extenuating circumstances. His serum levels were like 16 times heavier than an (alive) heavier user, and around 60 times higher than the low end. From this perspective it sounds like it could be a bonafide overdose. Hiiiigh levels of mxe inside this dude. Shambles high! Don't have the Whole paper. .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23111916

This is a different overdose. Not the ones the media lied about and which led to the ban of MXE in the UK. Also, if you read the ACMD's report which banned it there were no known deaths attributed to MXE:

Deaths
3.12 The ACMD is not aware of any deaths solely attributed to methoxetamine.
International data
3.14 The ACMD are not aware of any confirmed deaths solely related to methoxetamine reported in Europe or elsewhere in the world.
3.15 There has been one published case of potential acute methoxetamine toxicity from Switzerland and one from the USA.
- Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) Methoxetamine Report (2012)