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UK Ketamine Thread v.2 - shortage or not?

Energy control provides percentage rates
http://energycontrol.org/analisis-de-sustancias/resultados/ultimas-muestras-analizadas.html
Lots of ketamine, with percentages, been proven wrong yet or just gonna stick ur head in the sand like before 'thespice' can't handle the pure hot spicey truth that it is either k or cut k, not one vendor stocks it from dnm to research chemicals suppliers thus making it near on impossible to get it
Had some k over the weekend and it had me wobbling after a small line and just out of a k-hole (which tiletamine can't give just black outs) so yea ketamine is going around street level, at high purity and no cuts, so the court has made its verdict I'm sure now I suggest thespice either posts his proof or he stops spreadin misinformation
 
Matt, I'm not sticking my head in the sand - ketamine does not even interest me personally so if it was not for the decent into this ridiculous back and forth vitriol between contributors to this thread I would not be commenting at all.

The energycontrol link and stuff like that is the kind of post quality we need. This isn't a game to lost or won.

EDIT - Shit sorry Matt - were you talking about someone else? Whoops.:X Sorry xx No point in deleting now in case it's been read. Just please everyone, play nice and if there is ANYTHING else that needs to be added to the 'tiletmine' aspect of this discussion just post links to support whatever you are saying. Otherwise just make it one of those agree to disagree type deals. Please <3
 
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Not a problem stee, didn't mean to offend anyone and sorry if I have, but at this stage it just seems like one person wanting to stick their head in the sand over facts being presented to them, I love the stuff hence the username lol
 
Whatever I had was enjoyable. 50 mg spread as two bumps proper wonky but manageable and functional. Back to baseline after 4 hours from final bump.
 
steewith2ees said:
Right, everybody has made their point with this now. It appears like many brick walls are being spoken to at this point. As I said before, any third parties reading through this thread should now have more than enough information to make up there own minds about this.

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If anyone finds anything said ridiculous - just do not even acknowledge it with an answer. It would be a shame to have to lock off such an important thread over a pointless pie fight 8(
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Precisely, people who know have already made their conclusions.

I'm not getting offended even though all the ad hominems are directed at me, but as the saying goes a prophet is never hated as much as he is in his home country.

It'd be a shame to lock a thread because people can't take hearing the truth, and if it offends you to hear that actually what most people in the UK consider to be K on a street level is cut crap, that's your loss and I don't give a damn.

matt<3ketamine said:
Energy control provides percentage rates
http://energycontrol.org/analisis-de-sustancias/resultados/ultimas-muestras-analizadas.html
Lots of ketamine, with percentages, been proven wrong yet or just gonna stick ur head in the sand like before 'thespice' can't handle the pure hot spicey truth that it is either k or cut k, not one vendor stocks it from dnm to research chemicals suppliers thus making it near on impossible to get it
Had some k over the weekend and it had me wobbling after a small line and just out of a k-hole (which tiletamine can't give just black outs) so yea ketamine is going around street level, at high purity and no cuts, so the court has made its verdict I'm sure now I suggest thespice either posts his proof or he stops spreadin misinformation
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You are a typical naysayer when you actually have no idea, if you are so fervent you prove that what you think you have is uncut Ketamine.

How does naming a testing centre in Spain help? There are walk in testing centres in Holland which will give you percentages, if you give one based in the UK that might help, but like lysergamide alluded to an experienced user is as effective as a testing centre in identifying K type and purity to quite a high degree.

You want some proof of the state of Ketamine in the UK? Read and reread lysergamide's post so I am not alone in my observation, except for I disagree with the abundance part but again he has access to a source, most don't. I can tell from just reading his post he is experienced, and you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about with Tiletamine (which was the main substitute during the K drought period) you will experience a very dirty K/T hole, it's not pleasant, something like being drunk and taking K.

lysergamide said:
The small shardy/rice grain-like stuff is very weak. But I've noticed it to be the most common, thankfully I've been getting the above or more sparkly powder'y material that is very, very pure.

There is plenty of cut stuff out there though, I wouldn't trust anyone's opinion though if they didn't take it before the drought. I know a lot of people out there rating k that is cut. I've noticed k that is cut means you get kidney pains quite quickly after 2g or so, pure ketamine I can do large amounts of without any real issues. Maybe slightly painful urination towards the end, remember to drink lots of water. It's pretty easy to tell if ket is cut even just from a single line and taste of the drip.
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Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Whatever I had was enjoyable. 50 mg spread as two bumps proper wonky but manageable and functional. Back to baseline after 4 hours from final bump.
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4+ hour baseline? Ketamine?!?!?
 
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I thought you were claiming this to be a Europe wide problem, I honestly might have just made that up though. If the results of Spanish and Netherlands test centres are irrelevant to the supposed quality issues in the UK, then surely you could just solve your problem by purchasing DN listings from a bit further afield?
 
ordinary mind said:
I thought you were claiming this to be a Europe wide problem, I honestly might have just made that up though. If the results of Spanish and Netherlands test centres are irrelevant to the supposed quality issues in the UK, then surely you could just solve your problem by purchasing DN listings from a bit further afield?
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Tiletamine is now a big problem in Holland I can't speak for anywhere else, I only recently came back to the UK to discover the Tiletamine has gone but the Lidocaine, Benzos, CNS depressants and other cutting agents are kicking about in force, so I have already backtracked my "Tiletamine" statement although you can replace that notion with "cut crap". When I left the UK (drought period) Tiletamine was all that was available on the street so forgive me if I blanket called everything that was cut crap as Tiletamine immediately upon returning from Holland (where this problem has reared it's head). I am sourcing my info from many sources including experienced users.

As for dn listings further afield of course, since one is not able to find a pure source in the UK at the moment (I am not saying they don't exist but they appear to be very uncommon at the moment, can't see how it is pre-drought quality at all).
 
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Honestly, I get that the discussion got perhaps slightly heated a page or 2 back, but isn't moaning about the quality of ketamine in the UK exactly what this thread is for :?

thespice is alright by me, I'm interested in hearing tidbits on ketamine quality today vs. quality of yesteryear... even if the speculation does occasionally cross into lunacy (ie. all ketamine is tiletamine)
 
Its the all ketamine us tiletamine conspiracy theory that annoys me. Its based on nothing more than some hunch / obsesssion he has but he continues to bang on about it. It is disinformation. On a HR website that is dangerous. I think at this point his posts are little more than argumentative trolling tbph.
 
consumer said:
Its the all ketamine us tiletamine conspiracy theory that annoys me. Its based on nothing more than some hunch / obsesssion he has but he continues to bang on about it. It is disinformation. On a HR website that i dangerous. I think at this point his posts are little more than argumentative trolling tbph.
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That Tiletamine was sold as K everywhere in the UK in the drought period is a fact, it was the only thing about, it's a lot cheaper and could be bought freely not being controlled (not sure that's the case anymore). That most people have no idea about Tiletamine and no idea how to identify it and also call it K is also a fact, since its a shittier version of a dissociative.

Since coming back to the UK 1 month ago it appears it is at least not found on its own like it was before (it also has a distinct smell for those experienced in detecting this crap), it may still be cut to some degree - this I cannot comment on.

It's no hunch or obsession and it's not disinformation, it's disinformation to not be aware of it or deny it. How many people have I heard in the UK quoting the experience below calling it Ketamine, 4+ hour come down?? That's not Ketamine! Even 2+ is too long!

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=10352
 
thespice said:
Precisely, people who know have already made their conclusions.

I'm not getting offended even though all the ad hominems are directed at me, but as the saying goes a prophet is never hated as much as he is in his home country.

It'd be a shame to lock a thread because people can't take hearing the truth, and if it offends you to hear that actually what most people in the UK consider to be K on a street level is cut crap, that's your loss and I don't give a damn.



You are a typical naysayer when you actually have no idea, if you are so fervent you prove that what you think you have is uncut Ketamine.

How does naming a testing centre in Spain help? There are walk in testing centres in Holland which will give you percentages, if you give one based in the UK that might help, but like lysergamide alluded to an experienced user is as effective as a testing centre in identifying K type and purity to quite a high degree.

You want some proof of the state of Ketamine in the UK? Read and reread lysergamide's post so I am not alone in my observation, except for I disagree with the abundance part but again he has access to a source, most don't. I can tell from just reading his post he is experienced, and you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about with Tiletamine (which was the main substitute during the K drought period) you will experience a very dirty K/T hole, it's not pleasant, something like being drunk and taking K.





4+ hour baseline? Ketamine?!?!?
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Yep as in absolutely no feeling of the drug. +2 I was dog walking + 3 I was up a ladder doing Xmas decorations. Actual peak plateau was around 1 hr 30 max. Although state of mind wise I felt positive and happy into the following day at a time when theoretically I would be usually stresssed. Big life change decision.
 
thespice said:
That Tiletamine was sold as K everywhere in the UK in the drought period is a fact, it was the only thing about, it's a lot cheaper and could be bought freely not being controlled (not sure that's the case anymore). That most people have no idea about Tiletamine and no idea how to identify it and also call it K is also a fact, since its a shittier version of a dissociative.

Since coming back to the UK 1 month ago it appears it is at least not found on its own like it was before (it also has a distinct smell for those experienced in detecting this crap), it may still be cut to some degree - this I cannot comment on.

It's no hunch or obsession and it's not disinformation, it's disinformation to not be aware of it or deny it. How many people have I heard in the UK quoting the experience below calling it Ketamine, 4+ hour come down?? That's not Ketamine! Even 2+ is too long!

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=10352
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I will leave you to wear your tin foil hat. Enjoy your obsession. The Mafia killed Kennedy you know and the landing on the moon was filmed in a warehouse in Houston too.

Pie anyone?
 
Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Yep as in absolutely no feeling of the drug. +2 I was dog walking + 3 I was up a ladder doing Xmas decorations. Actual peak plateau was around 1 hr 30 max. Although state of mind wise I felt positive and happy into the following day at a time when theoretically I would be usually stresssed. Big life change decision.
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Alright I'll backtrack again slightly, ok S-isomer yea you can do this. Still doesn't mean most of what is called S-isomer is crap and 3+ hours is long really long especially for S.

I will leave you to wear your tin foil hat. Enjoy your obsession. The Mafia killed Kennedy you know and the landing on the moon was filmed in a warehouse in Houston too.

Pie anyone?
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Provide precise UK testing centre, and this discussion will be complete.
 
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