UK - Crystal meth tragedy: Innocent Romano Dias, of Impington, died after swallowing.

I wonder why the UK doesnt have much ice? Seems odd that it's not either imported to there or made locally, surely there'd be a demand for it if it was available. If people smoke crack there i'm pretty sure alot of them would get into the crystal if it was around.
 
Si Ingwe said:
I havent seen any kind of amphetamine on the street in the uk for a long time & last time I did it wasn't very good. It was awful, useless. But I understand that Amphetamine Sulphate does still do the rounds & often in reasonably good quality. I've had some cracking good base speed in my time, I once made an 8th of phet last about 6 years it was so fuckng good!
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phet? Phentermine?
 
edgarshade said:
The story is a bit strange, as some of the reader comments indicate. A drink arrives unexpectedly in the post with the wrong name on it. Someone signs for it? They then keep it three years (way past its sell-by date) and then offer it to their dad. He notices something strange about the way it is sealed but drinks it anyway. Urrm...
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Its one of those stories where (to me at least), pretty much every part of the story is so strange that it's probably mostly true. And really, really sad.

dopemegently said:
Not just cambridshire; meth is a rarity pretty much everywhere in the UK. I think that stash would have been a large supply for here.
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I can't believe that whoever had it bottled didn't make some effort to get it back. It must have been worth a shedload.

poledriver said:
I wonder why the UK doesnt have much ice? Seems odd that it's not either imported to there or made locally, surely there'd be a demand for it if it was available. If people smoke crack there i'm pretty sure alot of them would get into the crystal if it was around.
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As far as I've seen, we don't have much crack either. There always used to be speed around, but other than amongst the youth it's not that popular these days. Weirdly, I think it went out of vogue in the 90s when all the kids started getting prescribed Ritalin (which they aren't generally now. Maybe it'll be back in a few years?)

Mephedrone kind of took speeds spot in terms of a cheap upper, and cocaine is still standing strong. But we don't seem to be much of an upper nation. Most people in the UK that I talk to generally encounter speed as a cutting agent. It seems to have a bit of a rep as a dirty or cheap drug.
 
I'm not sure what's going on with the lack of m-amp in Britain. Synths using PPA as a precursor can still easily yield meth with an additional reactive step. It could be demand-based, given the stigma attached to meth.

Akerman said:
But we don't seem to be much of an upper nation.
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Bah. The raw rates of use of mephedrone during its short burst of popularity suggests otherwise, as does coke's continuing popularity despite poor quality and high prices. And it's my understanding that "pee-vee" made the rounds and then some. . .

ebola
 
ebola? said:
Bah. The raw rates of use of mephedrone during its short burst of popularity suggests otherwise, as does coke's continuing popularity despite poor quality and high prices. And it's my understanding that "pee-vee" made the rounds and then some. . .

ebola
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... agreed. The reduction in the popularity of amphetamine sulphate, if indeed there has been one, is actualy probably more related to the availablity of mephedrone & peevee. 'Drone coz it's just lovely & smooth compared to gritty speed, but lasts a similar duration. Peeve because of the insane sexual push & the sheer duration.

The UK is a huge consumer of stumulants. HUGE!
 
Si Ingwe said:
... agreed. The reduction in the popularity of amphetamine sulphate, if indeed there has been one, is actualy probably more related to the availablity of mephedrone & peevee. 'Drone coz it's just lovely & smooth compared to gritty speed, but lasts a similar duration. Peeve because of the insane sexual push & the sheer duration.

The UK is a huge consumer of stumulants. HUGE!
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I bet Stimulants drive a large part of the fortune 500 too.
 
ebola? said:
Bah. The raw rates of use of mephedrone during its short burst of popularity suggests otherwise, as does coke's continuing popularity despite poor quality and high prices. And it's my understanding that "pee-vee" made the rounds and then some. . .
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Si Ingwe said:
... agreed. The reduction in the popularity of amphetamine sulphate, if indeed there has been one, is actualy probably more related to the availablity of mephedrone & peevee. 'Drone coz it's just lovely & smooth compared to gritty speed, but lasts a similar duration. Peeve because of the insane sexual push & the sheer duration.

The UK is a huge consumer of stumulants. HUGE!
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You're right. Mephedrone was everywhere for a while there. The few months after the ban it seemed to be one of the most popular drugs about. But it seems to have fizzled back now.

I wonder just how much it differs locally. Stims really aren't big 'round here, but I just spoke to a friend up North who says her town is awash with dealer-mixed stim blends. In the area where I live, there is always coke about, but I don't know many people for whom it would generally be their first choice of drug. In part because, as you say ebola, it's hard to get anything that isn't crap and it always costs loads. Those people who I know who would have picked mephedrone as their first choice (and there were a few) generally went off it as it disappeared off the market following the ban, and didn't switch to other straightforward stims. MDPV never took off in this area really (by area I'm looking at a couple cities and counties). It got bad press/reviews/rep before it got going, I think.
 
"Pure" meth..... He drank a rock of crystal?

He didn't notice anything strange about the taste?

The part about the daughter opening a package and making her dad drink it is weird too.

This article sounds like it came from the national enquirer
 
How fuck much is 34,000 Pounds Sterling worth of meth in Britain anyway? It's as if he drank molten platinum. Bullshit article with only vague references to dose. Mmmmmmmmmmmm 3 year old "health drink".
 
This whole story makes no sense, meth is bitter as fuck and it doesn't look like any health drink that I ever encountered. At the same time I can't really understand how he would of intentionally taken a dose orally that would kill him so quickly, unless he severely miscalculated his dose somehow...
 
drug_mentor said:
This whole story makes no sense, meth is bitter as fuck and it doesn't look like any health drink that I ever encountered. At the same time I can't really understand how he would of intentionally taken a dose orally that would kill him so quickly, unless he severely miscalculated his dose somehow...
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We'll have to wait and see I suppose. None of us can understand. But maybe 200mg+ if pure Meth HCL could absorb that quick in his mouth and esophagus first sip and kill him? Who knows
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
This a better and more euphoric stimulant than Meth?
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From everything I've heard, yes. Now granted, co-ingesting 2-FMA and high doses of Tianeptine produce the same thing for me (especially on selegiline), but I'm still curious.

lolwhatzdrugs said:
Or you just wanna try it cause it helped get the Beatles of the grounds literally and figuratively?
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I guess a bit of that too.
 
tweex said:
From everything I've heard, yes. Now granted, co-ingesting 2-FMA and high doses of Tianeptine produce the same thing for me (especially on selegiline), but I'm still curious.
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I was very interested in tianeptine, but ended up not ordering it :\

Really worth it?

Cause MDMA (probably had meth in it too)+Nitrous>MDMA>Dex(or racemic even)Methamp IVed with Heroin>Poppy tea (no shit right)>Morphine/Heroin>Methamp>Amp>Propylhexedrine (I will never like lavander again. ewww just remembering)


And 2-FMA wasn't shit but stimulating. Like meth, with no actual euphoria. Like a study drug. Moreish as hell though.
 
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