p-mo said:
Not really. Its the exercise where you take a dumbell in each hand and then do your best impression of the crusifixion. (although I know thats not the best technique). Dunno what else you'd call it appart from lat raise- horizontal raise maybe? Search on google and you can find dozens of vids.
wow... I call those (and reverse scarecrows, hehe) jesus moves lol

. I'm a bar-only kind of guy most of the time, and completely suck w/ names in the 1st place, thnx for clarification.
FrostyMcFailure said:
Fukhed Vtaper is the SHIT!! Just work the delts to round it out a decent amount and really pronounce it.
As far as a purely aesthetic approach for vtapering, keep in mind to blast the shit out of your rear delts, most people's rear delts are horribly out of comparison to their front/side, and all 3 front/side/middle will have the good vtaper from all angles (big front/side, w/ small rear, delts won't have a great vtaper from all rear angles, for instance).
FrostyMcFailure said:
bingalpaws: Fucking heavy bags are the absolute SSHiiizz, whats your heavy bag weigh? speed bags great in combination too, Boxers are notorious for having the most built & well defined shoulders in the sports world & i believe the bags are the main reason but i could be wrong.
I dunno - the type of work I do on it varies so I imagine there's potential there, I mean just doing really hard/short/intense sessions, it's almost like a mini-muscle workout, but I typically do longer (not long by any standards as I'm a fucking cig smoker, but the boxing does help

) sessions to work with my stance/movements and shit. My bag's 85, which I *think* is about normal, but I'm pretty clueless on boxing in general, I've only put on gloves against another person on a few occasions.
aannalien, I would love it if you nail 8, but going from 7 to 8 is going to, obviously, be slower than 6 to 7 was - have you been thinking of how you'll approach stagnation if/when your <obscene> rate of progress starts slowing? And btw, congrats as usual, you're strong as an ox kid!!