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transsexuals

I think transsexuals just want acceptance. As is, no returns no exchanges acceptance. There was a model named Tula in the 80s who was ts and wrote a book called 'I am a Woman', of course she didn't mean that she's biologically the same as a genetic girl obviousy because she doesn't do many of the things they do because her body is different. However she simply cried out for acceptance of her as she is. Not as a guy who wants people to believe he's something he's not, but as a person who was born the way she is and will never change.

Anyway thanks for all your replies please anyone who has anything to say on this subject please post it in this thread. I'll go through later and answer questions, unfortunately I'm starting a new job tomorrow that will hopefully pay for a few things and I really need to study for it tonite and go to bed early. Please anyone who has anything to say just say it whatever it is.
 
I changed sex about three years ago in Thailand. I love women so much I became one. Also, whenever viewing pornography I imagined I was the female getting banged.

My first TS thoughts were in Kindergarten. I played with the girls. I told mom I wanted to be a girl. This was before anyone ever heard of transsexualism. Mom didn't like it. She scolded me and bribed me to play with boys by giving me money for movies etc.

In high school I grew my hair long (hippy) secretly dressed in my sister's clothes and still didn't know about transsexualism.

I like to dance around beautiful women. I'd like to manage a strip club that would open from 4pm-2am. Thursdays would be Rolling Stones night.

Everyone is sooooo nice to me. I'm having the best time in my life. Only wish it happened sooner but the psychiatrists said I was crazy. (A crazy transsexual?)

In Thailand the doctor interviewed me for 10 minutes. I looked him in the eye and told him "I hate this Thing (Penis)".

I'm still a virgin. Not that I did not have opportunities but I want the First Time to be nice. I have zero sex drive. As a male I thought about sex constantly, now I'm at peace.

Never had sex with a female either but had MANY opportunities with gorgeous girls. I'd get hard with them but never had the heart to fuck em.

If I had the surgery when I was younger, I would have been a dancer.

It wasn't until I had my second homosexual relation (the first one was in High School and I still think about him -- he loved the Rolling Stones and Jim Morrison) when I was 30 that I knew I had to change sex: I liked getting fucked and didn't like anyone touching my penis.
 
Well everyone's different, some people do things for one reason other people do things for another reason.

I dont know what to think. I guess if my best mate was to come out and say he wanted to be a woman. I dont think I could accept it. I wouldnt be angry or anything infact I would probably be sad and depressed , like I was losing a friend.
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That's actually the main problem I have, like coming out to my family and friends is pretty shitty. I told a few friends just cause they needed an explanation for a few things and I didn't wanna lie to them.



I think the problem isn't really with being born in the wrong body so much as a part of you that you cannot control. No matter how much money you make or how many friends you have there's a part of you that just is, the part that I've always been jealous of everyone else for having that seemed to suit their bodies or whatever so well. And as time progresses and you stray more and more from your feelings things get harder and shit gets worse.

You try to rationalize what's going on, saying things to yourself about why you feel the way you feel. But in the end it's just the way you feel.
 
I agree with those who've posted that transsexuals have it worse than any other sexual minority, though hopefully that will change.

Here in New Zealand there are a few good signs: a few years ago we elected the world's first transsexual member of parliament. She seems to be reasonably well accepted, though there are plenty of people who say nasty things about her. We are still a long way from full equality, but hopefully her presence in parliament will help things a little.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgina_Beyer for her biography.
 
@lterEgo said:
but why all the "LGBT" events then? why not just... "LGB"? do you think that transgendered persons have been lumped into this movement against their better judgment, or is it simply the only place they have been able to find acceptance so far? i suppose all "alternative sexualities" might band together for solidarity purposes, but if we're talking about transgendered persons who technically consider themselves heterosexual, then i'm not sure this is an appropriate alliance.
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i use to radio dj and the show on before mine was hosted by a transsexual (M2F); about two months back we had a incident;
the policy at the radio station is on a weekend you have to ring the doorbell as long and as hard as possible because someone could be in the studio and unable to hear the doorbell, or the show could be pre-recorded and there actually might not be anyone in the entire complex;
i apparently rang the doorbell for too long a period, or something, but when she finally got to the door and let me in, she basically snapped at me; called me names, asked if "... i had any brains?" and then blamed me for throwing her off her train of conversation... etc (it's live radio, i've been interrupted many times, it's just a part of the job, etc)
the thing that stuck in my mind is, her physical presence compared with my own; she's over 6ft and im 5'2. it never was a physical threat, but i was still pretty much intimidated by her; and was still pretty shaken up by the time my co-presenter arrived (who's the sweetest guy alive; he started showing up early for every show so i wouldn't have to ring the doorbell, etc.)

the incident has basically thrown me; and for the first time im beginning to question why it's "glbti"? homosexuality and bisexuality are totally different from transexuality, transgenderism, intersex, sure, we're all discriminated against but it is for different reasons, no matter how it's rationalized, it's not all the same thing, one is a issue of gender and another of sexual attraction.
in my mind it would be like lumping Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism together under the title of "alternative religions"; just because there considered a minority in Australia, etc

the stance within the queer community seems to be; divide we'll fall, etc. and yes, there is power in numbers - but, how about intellectual obligation? i don't regard transsexuals/gendered, intersexes as being a part of my community, so, why should we all be grouped together?

i won't aggressively appose the use the terms glbti, glbtiq, glbtip etc etc etc but i don't feel any unity in it, my heart doesn't swell with pride when i see it stretched across a banner - it doesn't hold relevance to me as a gay individual...
 
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If you were born blind, and medical technology could help you see - would you use it?

How about those with genetic deformities having plastic surgery to look normal... or infertile women being treated with fertility drugs... ?

With the miracles of modern science there are a lot of ways we change what we have been 'given' in order to better our fortunes and function in society with more ease. I guess transexuals believe they have been born with a genetic malfunction that needs correcting, and that remaining the way they were born becomes psychologically unhealthy for them.

It must be an awful predicament... I don't think anyone would really choose that path if they didn't feel it was genuinely an imperative.
 
i won't aggressively appose the use the terms glbti, glbtiq, glbtip etc etc etc but i don't feel any unity in it, my heart doesn't swell with pride when i see it stretched across a banner - it doesn't hold relevance to me as a gay individual... [/B]
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I could never understand why someone would be proud of buttfucking, masturbating or blowing another guy.

"Gay Pride" is an ironic or oxymononic slogan. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins.
 
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greenfalcon said:
I really, really, really can't stand the whole idea of transexualism. I don't like nor understand transexuals. Thinking about it actually gets me quite angry. Make the msot of what you've been given, stop making yourelf even uglier and more deformed
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Anger is one of the seven deadly sins.

Another reason for my sex change, which I told the doctor was to look better (naked). Narcissism, vanity -- another deadly sin. And to feel better. I certainly feel better without those testicals and penis.

Transsexualism and breast implants are like tattoos, an expression of your personality.

Last night I went to see a "Suicide Girls" show: kind of a punk burlesque. They were pretty good dancers too. I identify with them. Transsexualism is a kind of suicide especially since I have no children.

You also say to "make the most of what you're given." I never used my dick except for masturbating and I hated to so "use it or lose it."
 
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Strawberry_lovemuffin said:
It must be an awful predicament... I don't think anyone would really choose that path if they didn't feel it was genuinely an imperative.
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It is very sad. I cry all the time but it is a sweet sorrow. It may be "imperative" or another one of my obcessive compulsions but I certainly don't regret it. I can't have children but this world is not fit for children to suffer.
 
greenfalcon said:
It just seems such a waste, such a 'fuck you' to our makers
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I'm sure mom & dad were pissed but neither of my sisters had kids either.

Jesus said, "There are those who will make themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of god". (Matthew 19:12)
 
greenfalcon said:
Bottom line is, men that want to be women and vice-versa have a mental illness, there's nothing physically wrong with them. Nothing a little counselling and discipline won't help.
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The only cure for transsexualism is surgery.
 
greenfalcon said:

Bottom line is, men that want to be women and vice-versa have a mental illness, there's nothing physically wrong with them. Nothing a little counselling and discipline won't help.
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It's what some would call Gender Identity Disorder. Also, I strongly doubt any amount of counselling would do anything. Once a person's sense of self is firmly established, nothing short of a stroke of amnesia and redefinition of identity can change it. Even then, that's not treatment. It's much more of an "abomination" than the gender corrective surgery you find so intolerable because you're forcing someone to conform you your subjective standard of "normality."

greenfalcon said:
It just seems such a waste, such a 'fuck you' to our makers
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Modern medicine in general is a "fuck you" to our makers, seeing as how we now prolong our lives at the expense of the organs of our fellow brethren. Sure, eliminating disease and sustaining life seem like noble ideas at first, but they underscore humanity's innate fear of death and search for immortality. In that sense, it's a much bigger slap in the face to the powers that be than cosmetic surgery aimed at changing/correcting gender identity.
 
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greenfalcon said:
yeah, I'm sure you're completely cured
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No one is cured until they die or fall into love. To be cured is perfection.

Maybe I had the surgery because I hated myself but love myself more now: I look and feel much better.
 
greenfalcon said:
You can find an excuse or medical reasoning behind anything if you try hard enough. You'll find most of it's bullshit
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And with enough discipline and counselling, maybe we can correct your superiority complex, seeing as you clearly have no desire accept or at least even respect the other side of the argument. At this point in the thread, you're not really providing anything constructive. You're just trying to rouse a fire out of the rest of the posters.
 
greenfalcon said:

Yes, I do assume what our makers/selves want - I'd say if I was born with a penis - yeah, I'm meant to be a man. Not that hard to figure out.
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What is you're born a hermaphrodite? Or intersex as it is called today.

In the fifties and probably more recently there have been many cases where a child has been born with both sex organs and the doctor and parents have decided to raise the child as a male, only to have that child grow up and identify itself as a woman. Depsite the way it was raised and having no idea about its ambiguous genitalia at birth.

There was also the John/Joan case a where a doctor severely damaged an infants penis during circumcision so doctors told his parents to raise him as a girl. He grew up feeling strange and alienated until he found out what happened to him and went back to living as a male.

All this points to the fact that our gender identity is held somewhere deep inside us and has little to do with our genitals.
 
I don't really have a problem with the concept of it, if it's for the sole purpose of someone feeling like they are in the wrong body, but the only transsexuals I've met all seem to be really over the top and fake. When the change is made for the sole purpose of apeasing ones sexual fantasies, then I'm a little dubious of it.

One hit on a mate in a club once and (s)he was behaving a gay man, when (s)he was (to us) just a butch looking woman. It wasn't until (s)he actually said (s)he was a transsexual that me and my mate both kinda went WTF you're a girl who used to be a man pretending to be a gay man, that's just fucked up.....
 
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