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Social Justice Transgender and gender identity discussion

Today, I was in the ladies’ room, and someone who was born as a biological male walked in. This individual was completely dressed like a male, so I was surprised and thought may they’d walked into the wrong restroom. (The signage was confusing.)

It was a little different, but ultimately not a big deal. Meh.
 
cduggles said:
Today, I was in the ladies’ room, and someone who was born as a biological male walked in. This individual was completely dressed like a male, so I was surprised and thought may they’d walked into the wrong restroom. (The signage was confusing.)

It was a little different, but ultimately not a big deal. Meh.
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I gotta be honest. I'd be uncomfortable with this.

I mean, I'm not saying it should be stopped. That kinda question is something I'd like more than my discomfort to base it on.

But yeah, I'd feel uncomfortable with that.

It's strange though. Running it in my head, if said person were dressed as a woman, I don't think I'd have a problem then. Which strikes me as a strange thing for me to mentally feel a difference over.

I guess maybe because I find it much less plausible that a man would dress up like a woman and expose himself to being assaulted just to get into the women's restroom. While it seems much more plausible if they otherwise seem to identify as male.

Or maybe it's because my mind would intuitively categorize the person in your situation as male, and therefore a potential threat. Whereas if they were dressed as female I'd classify them as transgender, and unlikely to be a threat.

I dunno, and I'm not saying it's at all rational, neither am I saying it shouldn't be allowed.

Just that, imaging it, I can't honestly say I would feel comfortable with it.
 
Lol wut? I've heard all sorts of the argument that the fear of men using the women's facilities is irrational.
 
Yeaaah. But that's not the same thing as saying that it will never be a problem.

Suggesting there's no rational basis for believing it will result in a statistically significant increase in assaults and such, is not the same as saying there will never be any problem ever.

Besides, no problem in fact occurred in this circumstance. All I said is it would make me feel uncomfortable. For reasons I even said may not be entirely rational.
 
cduggles said:
Today, I was in the ladies’ room, and someone who was born as a biological male walked in. This individual was completely dressed like a male, so I was surprised and thought may they’d walked into the wrong restroom. (The signage was confusing.)

It was a little different, but ultimately not a big deal. Meh.
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I wonder why they couldn’t just use the men’s room?
 
w01fg4ng said:
I feel like conservatives want to create an alphabet soup with bathrooms.

It's the LGBTQRSABCXYZ but for bathrooms.

I'm so over it.
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Hahahaha

"Sir, madam, or otherwise unstated, I'll have to ask you to use the LGBTXYZABC bathroom."

I got kicked out of a restaurant for using the ladies room. I really needed to go and it was just the one unit, not exactly public by any means. My only regret is I didn't order my beer beforehand. Could have walked out with a free drink.
Let the segregation happen, I say. And let the businesses deal with the legal repercussions of preventing someone from performing a biological imperative as if it's somehow "justified". I feel like, this is whole debate a stunt to prevent something like Boys Don't Cry from ruining a businesses reputation. There are black sharpies of dicks on bathroom stalls. What could conservatives be wary of a person seeing in a bathroom, I wonder?
 
cduggles said:
men are gross in bathrooms. Aim, people!
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While I mostly agree with you here, I think a lot of women don't realize that sometimes it's a physical problem with the stream of urine not doing what you expect to do. It's possible and not entirely uncommon that a man will go to pee and two streams will shoot out on both sides of the toilet. It happens.

Also, not having a diaper changing station makes for some pretty embarrassing and messy times for fathers OUTSIDE of the bathroom.
 
I wonder how much the incidence of sexual assults would actually rise if all bathrooms were unisex. I would imagine a fair amount. Nothing more alluring than some woman taking a dump. (I'm being facetious of course, I think there would be some problems.)
 
negrogesic said:
Nothing more alluring than some woman taking a dump.
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Men are alluring too. Don't forget about the split piss streams.

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negrogesic said:
I wonder how much the incidence of sexual assults would actually rise if all bathrooms were unisex. I would imagine a fair amount. Nothing more alluring than some woman taking a dump. (I'm being facetious of course, I think there would be some problems.)
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I would really like to know this too. Though I'm far less certain that it would increase by a statistically significant amount.

I mean think about it... Really think about it...

Why would it? Public bathrooms can't generally be locked to prevent new people coming in. They're not a good play to assault someone unless you know nobody else is around.

And if you know that, there's nothing about segregated facilities that stops that either.

I've thought about it and I can't really see why it would be likely to increase assaults by a noticeable amount. I'd love to have evidence more than intuition, but failing that, I suspect that this segregation is more because of historical sexual hangup, and has simply been carried unquestioning into modern day.
 
If anything unisex bathrooms will clean up the sexual problems that actually do go on in mens room.

You guys really think women are going to put up with our glory holes?

Those things would be the first to get fixed.
 
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