Film Trainspotting

[cj]

Then book really is better but thats more a tribute to the book then an insult to the movie. I gav it 5 stars a must see for sure.

 

[MikeOekiM]

 

[spacejunk]

Here comes Johnny Yen again....

This is one sequel i'm lookimg forward to

 

[cj]

I'm look on forward to seeing what McGregor does with the Mark Renton charcter.

 

[alasdairm]

have any of you read 'porno'? it's brilliant - i enjoyed it just as much as trainspotting.

alasdair

 

[MonoThom]

have any of you read 'porno'? it's brilliant - i enjoyed it just as much as trainspotting.

alasdair

It's hilarious! And a thriller, too. You know the moment is gonna come when Rents has to confront Begbie one way or another.

There's a prequel too (Porno being the sequel to Trainspotting), it's called Skag Boys. Not as great as the other two but still worth your while.

Reading Welsh took some time though, it being some kind of phonetical Scottish at times (especially Filth if I remember correctly), but reading it out loud helps sometimes + you really feel like you get to spend more time with Spud and Sick Boy and all the other losers.

Begbie is a bit more of a regular big, tough guy in the books: I really only started to see how brilliant Robert Carlyle's interpretation is, after reading Trainspotting too. The story goes that he showed up in a pink cardigan the first day of filming, sporting that Freddy Mercury mustache yet scaring everyone shitless.

 

[spacejunk]

Yeah, porno was great.
I'm wondering how closely trainspotting 2 will follow it.

Not sure if i've read skag boys. I'll track down a copy, thanks

 

[alasdairm]

Reading Welsh took some time though, it being some kind of phonetical Scottish at times (especially Filth if I remember correctly), but reading it out loud helps sometimes...

i'm from edinburgh so it was easier

alasdair

 

[MonoThom]

Oh and for anyone who loved the movie and hasn't seen Shallow Grave, I highly recommend it. The Acid House is fun, too (both the Welsh book and the Boyle movie).

"Coco fucking Bryce."

 

[spacejunk]

When i read Irvine Welsh novels, i start thinking in that accent, because i find it easy it slip into reading it... even though i'm not Scottish. I find the accent and unique vocabulary of Scottish English quite contagious, i love it. And i really like the way Welsh writes.
Filth inspired all kinds of vulgar inner dialogue, it's so wonderfully grimy.

 

[MonoThom]

i'm from edinburgh so it was easier

alasdair

In both Frysian and "Skarrish" I spot similar missing-link-between-English-and-Dutch aspects and that really helped/ I guess it's got something to do with the Saxons or something, although it could very well be my imagination, too.

BTW would the pronounciation of a Saxon language be the Saxophonics? That would be pretty cool huh.

 

[MonoThom]

@spacejunk heheh I know exactly what you mean. Suddenly you hear yourself go " ootae me way ya wee cunt" when you're getting off the bus.

Filth. Yeah. "BOONTAY!!"

 

[socko]

I didn't like any of the characters. They were not interesting. I could not relate to anything about them. I don't remember the movie even having a plot.

 

[noone1]

Yeah, porno was great.
I'm wondering how closely trainspotting 2 will follow it.

I've read Welsh said not very closely. Porno was good but not a masterpiece like trainspotting. It would make sense too since the first film follows the bones of the book but is it's own thing. Can't wait to see what they do with it.

 

[PushingDaisies]

I loved Trainspotting, excellent flick. Kind of embarrassed I didn't know it was a book, but excited to find it and read it along with porno!

 

[alasdairm]

^ i'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the book(s) when you're done. they're written using a lot of dialect and i imagine it might be a little hard, for somebody not scottish, to get to grips with it at first.

but stick with it. trainspotting is an outstanding read and porno is not too far behind.

of his other stuff, i particularly enjoyed glue and the short story collection - the acid house.

alasdair

 

[spacejunk]

I really like the social commentary Welsh weaves into his narratives.
He's a very sharp novelist.

 

[RTrain]

just curious, how many like this movie, and why??personally, ive never seen the big deal about the flick, seems like yer typical dopeflick...

all you opiod fiends out there, whatcha make of the kicking/dead baby scene??u think its realistic??

Can you name 5 "typical dopeflick" movies? I really don't think many can off the top of their head. And most people are going to say Trainspotting if you ask them to name a movie with heroin(or any drug addiction, probably) as a main theme of the movie.

On the spot I can't even name many, the other obvious one is Requiem for a Dream, I can also think of the Man with the Golden Arm(never seen, just know of) and (not sure of name but...) there's a movie where Ben Stiller is a journalist who is addicted to dope and shoots up a lot. And those 3 movies really have little in common with Trainspotting, aside from the drug addiction aspect.

Edit: Googled the Ben Stiller movie its Permanent Midnight, Probably worth watching. A rare non-comedy role but it's based on an autobiography about a comedy writer named Jerry Stahl, who (allegedly) has a $6000/week H habit. I've also read it's pretty similar to Trainspotting and Requiem with showing the drug use/close ups of injecting.

I want to add, about Trainspotting and it's depiction of withdrawal. Its difficult to depict on screen the intensely bad experience of W/D, but they do a decent job. Sort of go too far with the whole hallucinating part(sick thoughts are common, he might think about and be freaked out by the dead baby, but no visual hallucinations), everything else is basically on point, even once he's through acute W/D and then mentions the intense depression that follows(PAWS). They don't seem to convey how long it takes to kick a habit cold turkey, though. The 2 times Renton gets clean(especially the 1st, b/c they don't show him going through it), there's no break in it to let you feel he's suffering for the 4-7 days, instead they go from his W/Ding straight to him being out of the woods.