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took sub this morning, copped H this afternoon . WTF?

Yeah man that sounds like your best bet. Just make this "IT' Jake you can totally do this and come out lookin pimpin' on the other side. Like FoulPlay said your parents have love for you no matter what I was so affraid to tell mine but I had no choice. Either quit now like your doing or tell them cause trust me when your in the situations we both are in or have been in it sucks ass when your parents have to find out about you using from a school nurse or police officer. At least tell yourself your gonna do it for now until you get your shit together. that's what I had to do and then after a while the time just started to add up and I didn't really even realize how long it had been.

You got this man have faith and keep ya head up you'll pull through fine!
 
thanks. its prob good i only got 80 bucks to spend all week. i know i cant afford any more drugs
 
As far as saying you can't quit cause of this thing and that..

If you make something a bigger priority than getting and staying clean, you will likely lose it in the end anyways.

One thing I learned at NA meetings that usually holds true.
 
Do you always do whole pills? Can you get by on half that?

How much diesel did you do yesterday?
 
yesterday i did 7 bags i think . i am going to take 8 mg sub today 8 mg tmrw 4 mg for 2 days and then 2 mg for 2 days and stop
 
Yeh i gotta call you a 4 day taper isn't gonna do anything.

You gotta take that money and spend it on some detox meds dude. There are drugs that help just as much for opiate wds that aren't opiates themselves. Thats the only way you're gonna escape this mess is by taking enough of them to cover wds.

I don't think your the type of person who can really deal with wds, and I think you can easily treat 90% of them with a good combo of meds. Gonna try calling now..
 
No a week IS enough to kick, if thats what you plan on doing. You should definitely be over most the wds by that time, prob shorter imo.

But I'm only talking about the opiates not the benzos. As for the taper, I think its pointless to do 4mg for 2 days then 2mg for 2 days because you're basically going to be half way in wds anyway just delaying the process, and than when you stop you're gonna get blasted with all sorts of shit.

So its like 4 days of feeling pretty shitty during the taper, followed by what will prob feel like cold turkey afterwards anyway. I'd personally just skip those 4 days and jump off. Or my other choice would be to do an actual taper. But we've talked about doing those long tapers and we know you can't do it.

So your best bet is to just cold turkey. But if you don't have some sort of detox meds like lyrica, clonidine, soma, or seroquel I have a feeling you're just gonna go right back to using. You can try like I said on the phone. And if it doesn't work I'm gonna have to get you some detox meds which I think would make the process fairly easy if you have enough of them.

Really bro those detox meds are a savior, you won't even really know you're cold turkeying if you do it right. At the clinic I remember doing pushups on day 3 (when I should have been peaking) because I was on so many different nonopiate detox meds I couldn't really feel the wds.
So try what you want but if it doesn't work consider what I said on the phone.
 
All i know is i have 60 dollars til friday and all i can think is how could i use with that money and have any left for gas or food or cigerettes
 
Dude I don't know you but Bojanges seems to be offering you the easiest way out of this. Yeah you could blow the 60$ and get high but then what? Your still gonna wanna use. Now broke you'll feel worse about everything and want to use more. Why not choose to get help now? This is a perpetual cycle bro it's never gonna end unless you make it. Talk to you soon man
 
J@germe1ster said:
Dude I don't know you but Bojanges seems to be offering you the easiest way out of this. Yeah you could blow the 60$ and get high but then what? Your still gonna wanna use. Now broke you'll feel worse about everything and want to use more. Why not choose to get help now? This is a perpetual cycle bro it's never gonna end unless you make it. Talk to you soon man
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He's been trying to "get clean" with subs for years now..it never works yet he always does it again and again. Just look up his posts on here for proof. People have offered him very good advice in every single thread he makes, which he ignores, but in the end I really don't think he wants to get clean enough to actually do it. He's said it himself, if he had money right now he'd buy dope, the only reason he's "trying to quit with subs for a bit" is because he's forced to cause he doesn't have the money right now. But when he does get money, he'll buy more dope with it.
 
you buy more H,you loose the game


you are in deep shit,stop doing these poisons cold turkey.Fuck school ,fuck work,go home and reqest support in these hard days,they will not cut you off money when they will see that you want to end your addiction,besides that,every time you use some more,theres less chance that you will stop it ever in your life and that chance is already small.Dont be pussy,you knew that these things arent good for you,now face your problems or continue life of fucked up junkie that have no control about himself.Stop using or die soon,I would not want you to kill somebody while nodding in car.


Heroin addiction is bad,but benzo addiction is even worse....... weeks of extreme pain are small price for being free and healthy homo sapiens sapiens aggain.
 
At least you want to quit jake. That is a HUGE step at least for me it was. Nothing with getting clean happens overnight and it definitely is a process. Keep trying your doing good you will get there eventually.

peace.
seedless
 
jake99 said:
thats why im not buyin H
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this is the cycle right here, round and round it goes.. when it stop noone knows.
But the truth is thats bullshit, it stops when you make a BEHAVOIR to stop it. Such as STOPPING. Thats "all it takes". You are making this such a big deal bro the heroin is making you depressed as shit get off the diesel and you WILL feel a lot better.
Trust me when I say theres a lot more "highs" in leaving clean than being a drug addict. You keep going back and forth like a pendulum on dope. And for bagochina no offense but "eventually" would have happened in the last year already if he even gave it a minor effort.
Effort leads to eventually, not threads. Comeon Jake. Get some money together, get some proper detox meds.. not more sub and heroin. And do this one time and do it right.


jake99 said:
made it 2 days on subs and used
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how do i get detox medds? im thinkin of checkin in to a 3 day hospital detox
 
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