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Too anyone who is having these symptoms

would just like to say that is has been 15 weeks into my recovery and this saturday gone i am so fucking mad about (excuse my language). I went out clubbing on sat and was really drunk and for some stupid reason arghhhhh i decided to take pill, and my symptoms have gotten worse again when everything was starting to look better :@, im so mad with myself , i know i shouldnt of done it but the music and me being drunk obviously urged me to take a pill, i just want this over now , no more pills or mdma for me EVER AGAIN. i have had enough of all this , im gonna do everything in my right mind to get back to normal :(
 
hey surfer,

that sucks - now that i am starting to get better after 7 month of hell i can relate, it will take a lot of discipline to not touch x again, but i won't.

hope you get better soon.

so, exactly same symptoms as in your OP but worse ?

cheers
 
hey cope ,there not as bad , but you know when you get to the point when your doing so well and you think fuck im actually beating it now finally , i can go through the days without even realy thinking too much about my symptoms because i forget them?

then i took a pill on saturday and 2 days later i get this symptoms again that are like the ones i had before , not as bad but its just really noticable again....

im so dissapointed in myself

im not doing it now , this is it , im gonna stay clean , its not worth all this rubbish i been through ,

iv been so positive and i have got through this really well over the last 3 months , to be honest i have recovered rather quickly compared to alot of posts i have seen, but this is a setback and i need to sort this out this time.

so im gonna promise that im gonna stay clean and get rid of this.

and im glad to hear your getting better cope , i know what your going through.....

did you go through the same symptoms as me? if you did then you know its hell. its probably been the worst year of my life tbh , ever since i have had this i have found that i have been easier infected with colds and coughs and illnesses, dont know if anyone feels the same way or you cope?

cheers, hope to hear a quick response from you :)
 
Hey man, keep your chin up.

I also slipped up a month ago. While I have not done anything close to MDMA, I have gotten drunk before and said fuck it and done a line of coke.

It didn't put me back at square one but definitely set back my progress. Sent my anxiety and derealization to the roof for a few days. I have recovered from that, I am not quite fixed yet but it did not screw me completely. Just a setback. Coffee also does this to me, in fact I was 99.99% better a monnth after the comedown started and coffee caused me to fall into (hopefully) the 6-7 month recovery from the 1 month recovery.

You have made it this far, what's a extra few months? Trust me dude you will get better, don't dwell on it.

Mindfulness.
 
Hi Surfer,

yes, the symptoms you describe are very similar, i also had no dreams for about 5 months and woke up feeling trashed even after sleeping in. my libido was gone, that scared me shitless, looking at a sexy girl felt like looking at a tree.

but you know, you can try to describe how this long term comedown feels as hard as you can, but really no one who hasn't experienced it for himself knows what it is like. its a very special kind of damage done to the brain.

i was very fed up after 5 months so i decided to give stablon a try, now that i am taking it for about 5 weeks it really gets better, but i think i still need about 3-5 months for full recovery.

forgive yourself having slipped that weekend, looking back won't help.

@dawglaw, i think even after recovery the brain will be very sensible to substances, but hey when the time comes when we can enjoy a beer again, that will be great.


best of luck surfer and dawglaw !
 
I took around .5g 4 days ago. I get a really bad comedown for a few hours after taking it, but 48 hours later I'm feeling almost perfect. By 2 weeks I'm 100% norma without a shadow of a doubt. If I were you getting these long terms effects, I would start by halving my dose or something.

edit: totally agree about the exercise thing. Even if you feel really bad, you will feel alright as soon as you start exercising. It's the most important thing in my opinion, even more so than diet. You don't even have to alot of exercise, literally just a 2 mile walk could help
 
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I agree with OP in that in order to recover, you need to stay positive. A lot of this stuff is mind over body; if you feel like recovery is ahead then it probably will be.

I do feel sad for those affected though, can't imagine what it's like to have these symptoms. I've taken a lot more MDMA than that and been fine, bar the hangover etc.
 
StrutterGear said:
I agree with OP in that in order to recover, you need to stay positive. A lot of this stuff is mind over body; if you feel like recovery is ahead then it probably will be.

I do feel sad for those affected though, can't imagine what it's like to have these symptoms. I've taken a lot more MDMA than that and been fine, bar the hangover etc.
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I know this guy who gobbles it up and is fine, relatively speaking. Obviously if you're taking multiple grams in a short space of time you deserve to feel a little bad, but not from just taking 1/2 gram every now and then.
 
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I know this guy who gobbles it up and is fine, relatively speaking. Obviously if you're taking multiple grams in a short space of time you deserve to feel a little bad, but not from just taking 1/2 gram every now and then.
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Aye, the stories I hear of people suffering seem to be coming from relatively small amounts. (In MD OD terms). Definitely affects people in different ways, grateful I'm not one of the few.
 
^^

yep, i never did more than 100mg or one pill, the most disturbing part is, my long term comedown started one day after i did a quarter of a pill (and half a pill the day before).

when i did x, i never had depression or a bad comedown, in fact it left me in a very positive and happy mood.

from my personal experience this drug can turn very bad very quick.
 
hey cope and dawglaw

dawglaw your words mean alot to me , your right i cant let this beat me , i gotta keep my chin up,

it hasn't entirely messed with me but it has set me back at bit so i gotta just be a man about it and just continue as i was doing, i guess i have learned my lesson now and i know now that i will DEF not do it again.

cope yeah i completely agree with you when say that its hard to describe.....

no one seems to understand what you are talking about, its sucha weird thing when you first get it that you panic about it because you dont know what it is, i think thats what brings the anxiety because you think " what the hell is happening to me?, i feel like im losing my mind ?!?!?!?!?!" well thats how i felt anyways.....

no one seems to know what your talking about, tbh this kind of thing you have to fight on your own , there is nothing no one can do, even when i recover from this i will def be on the site helping others who will be going through these problems aswell. i wouldnt wish this on anyone, it is such an awful situation and i am only 21 years old, i just wish there was more precautions to these things happening when you taking mdma, i had no clue before hand.....

good luck guys
 
Cope,

I feel I am lucky in the sense that alcohol actually seems to help me. When I hit the bars with my friends, I don't notice any of the stmptoms of the comedown. The hangovers are rougher but the social benefits are worth it to me to keep drinking. My only fear is getting hammered and doing more drugs. My buddies have been pretty supportive and know not to push me.

I feel pretty fortunate, respectively, in that my emotions have not been affected too bad and my mental function has not been significantly impaired. The symptoms definitely make me feel uncomfortable but I think they are slowly becoming more manageable.

Overcoming the terrible anxiety of thinking I had completely fried myself was the biggest step. Now it's the long slow road of the brain rebalancing itself.
 
hi Dawglaw,

when i drink alcohol i get instant headaches.

going out with your friends is good, as you said, takes your mind of this hassle.

keeping a positive outlook and yourself busy is important too.

let's keep walking the road :)
 
surfer179 said:
hey cope ,there not as bad , but you know when you get to the point when your doing so well and you think fuck im actually beating it now finally , i can go through the days without even realy thinking too much about my symptoms because i forget them?

then i took a pill on saturday and 2 days later i get this symptoms again that are like the ones i had before , not as bad but its just really noticable again....

im so dissapointed in myself

im not doing it now , this is it , im gonna stay clean , its not worth all this rubbish i been through ,

iv been so positive and i have got through this really well over the last 3 months , to be honest i have recovered rather quickly compared to alot of posts i have seen, but this is a setback and i need to sort this out this time.

so im gonna promise that im gonna stay clean and get rid of this.

and im glad to hear your getting better cope , i know what your going through.....

did you go through the same symptoms as me? if you did then you know its hell. its probably been the worst year of my life tbh , ever since i have had this i have found that i have been easier infected with colds and coughs and illnesses, dont know if anyone feels the same way or you cope?

cheers, hope to hear a quick response from you :)
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Man it is sad to see you continuously make the same mistake over and over. I know you are likely just taking a pill while out and feeling good already while drunk, hoping things will be different, but you gotta get it scolded into your brain that every pill you take is going to have more serious consequences then the last if you are already having such negative lingering after effects...
 
dawglaw

i also do not feel the symptoms when im drunk either, when im drunk i feel completely normal which is really weird, i love the buzz i get when im drunk aswell because i feel like my old self but the hangovers are much worse i agree, i dont know if it has any effect on this recovery though, i dont think it does from what it seems so i just drink every weekend anyway when i go out.

p builder hey

yeah i totally agree with you , i really messed up by doing that , but hey i was drunk and i wasnt thinking to be honest with you. the symptoms i have now are not as bad as i actually thought so hopefully this set back wont be a big one and i now have learned from that mistake, so i know now that im def not going to give in to having one even if persuaded.

just a quick question to everyone.....

does it seem that your symptoms seem to change every few weeks or months ? my vision and other symptoms seem to change as the time goes on , like at the moment my eyes are really sensitive to light and when im in my work (which has a really bright light) my eyes cant seem to handle the light and go weird. thats just one of my symptoms im having right now but it seems they change as time goes on , less bad symptoms but still different, does anyone agree or is it just me ?
 
Surfer, I am experiencing the same exact thing. My vision is the only thing that is consistently off (and it's not even that bad, just a bit blurry and sensitive to bright lights). I work in a office building and am exposed to the terrible flat florecent lights all day which are annoying. When I am home or outside, my eyes sent that bad unless there is a quick change (indoor to outdoors).

I really think its a sign that we are close. My mood and anxiety seems to be stabling out. For example when I close my eyes or focus on the tv in a dark room, I can barely notice anything. I still get occasional anxiety waves but nothing terrible.

My recovery has been a roller coaster with good days bad days, steps forward and steps backwards. I am pretty confident in 6-12 months I'll be looking back and laughing at this bs...
 
yeah i get that aswell, its like if i go from dark light to quick florencent lights in my work place my eyes go funny and abit blurry , also when i look at food or people, it looks cartoony ? its hard to describe... if you have this your probably understand what i mean ?

and same yeah i really do hope in 6-12 months were be looking back on this and laughing but i will still be on the site to help others on this who are going/will be having the same problems as us
 
Funny thing is that while my eyes are blurry, my vision is fine. I did a vision test and I have 20/15 vision....

I really think this is 100% anxiety at this point. The funnier thing is, I don't even feel overtly anxious, just a bit tense and slightly dissassociated... Today for example, if I was not reviewing documents under flourecent lights all day I think I would be fine. (if i was at the bar with my friends watching some football) The brain is crazy.
 
I have noticed lately that I'm more sensitive to bright lights, as well as loud piercing noises. i was standing next to a scissor lift yesterday as it was reversing, and that beeping noise made my ears feel very uncomfortable. and when i quickly move my head sideways it disorientates me more than it probably should
 
yeah letroyce i get that aswell, i feel disorientated if i move my head too quickly or i go abit hyper i feel abit dizzy , i would like to say that since i took that pill i thought i had got worse again but my vision after 2 days after the post i done has actually got much better and im not as sensitive to light anymore, also my vision in terms of being normal is starting to come back so i think all is lookng well , seem to have some other symptoms at the moment though, here are them

dont have no motivation, keep having these thoughts in my head as " cant be asked to proceed with anything i like because at the end of the day im going to die eventually so whats the point" i really dont know why im having these thoughts but they have been bugging me for a couple weeks now.

also i feel like this isnt the real world i live in, i feel like i belong in another life and this isnt it , its hard to explain, does anyone know or have experienced this type of thing ? its kinda hard to explain

hope to here from you's soon :)
 
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