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Benzos Timing

L theanine, taurune, valerian, magnolia
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  1. Ashwagandha,.Chamomile
Tried all different work but can't compare to benzosvi spose m.
 
What about if I eat a meal say 2 hours before dosing benzo if I drink lots of water will it make it kick in quicker? I understand eating 3 to 4 hours before taking benzo affects it kicking in quick.
 
Pirrracetamol said:
I see. Yes I do need a break 😩 how im gonna do it is hard.
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I hear you, I've been trying to do the same.

When you're ready there's plenty of advice and help here, lots of different techniques you could try, helps if people understand what you're taking and any medical drivers.

Pirrracetamol said:
L theanine, taurune, valerian, magnolia
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  1. Ashwagandha,.Chamomile
Tried all different work but can't compare to benzosvi spose m.
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They're never going to compare, there's different reasons for taking nootropics, the main 1 for me is that they provide a small boost to the benzo, which means you can take less of the benzo, which is a good thing!

I'm fortunate enough to never had a benzo addiction, but from what I've read combining these with a taper plan would be helpful, though note they won't allow you to taper any faster.

I've got a different batch of other nootropics that I use to help repair my GABA system, adding theanine and taurune does give mild anxiolytic and relaxing effects which is what I want, I personally avoid the things that make me nod out, but if that's your thing/need then there are options that do work/help.

Main issue with this cocktail of nootropics is that they are not as effective as popping a benzo
 
placebonaut said:
there's different reasons for taking nootropics, the main 1 for me is that they provide a small boost to the benzo, which means you can take less of the benzo, which is a good thing!
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Only 1 i take and can get my hands on which is good is Piracetam.
 
Pirrracetamol said:
I think I've figured out what I've been doing wrong and that is taking 3 different Benzodiazepines at the same time. Idiot yep!
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Worth a read of the Ashton Manual, in my mind that would be better if there's multiple benzo's in the mix, it's based around a swap of all your benzos to diazepam before then starting a gradual taper.

www.benzoinfo.com

Ashton Manual - Benzodiazepine Information Coalition

Free Ashton Manual This copy of The Ashton Manual cannot be changed, replicated or sold. THE ASHTON MANUAL SUPPLEMENT, APRIL 2011 IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM PROFESSOR ASHTON, JANUARY 2007 FOREWORD TO...
www.benzoinfo.com www.benzoinfo.com
 
placebonaut said:
Worth a read of the Ashton Manual, in my mind that would be better if there's multiple benzo's in the mix, it's based around a swap of all your benzos to diazepam before then starting a gradual taper.
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Yeah I have the hard copy.

I don't know if i should add Grapefruit juice into the mix or not.

I already take Tagamet.
 
Pirrracetamol said:
I don't know if i should add Grapefruit juice into the mix or not.

I already take Tagamet.
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well the both act on CYP3A4, though tagamet also acts on other reuptake inhibitors.

grapefruit is longer lasting than Tagamet because grapefruit destroys the CYP3A4 enzeyme whilst cimetidine (tagamet) is a reversible inhibitor.

There's danger in taking both as the unpredictability increases, you're also going to be loading up your body with lots of benzos and their effect will stick around much longer than you realise, if you take a decent dose of diazapam with them both and then take another decent dose 2 days later you very well may find that there's more residual diazepam left in your system than you realise.....

what might be a better idea is to just redose the tagamet rather than double up on 2 different things, though honestly it might be worth considering what's driving you to want to extend things so long, I know you're already aware of dependency signs
 
placebonaut said:
well the both act on CYP3A4, though tagamet also acts on other reuptake inhibitors.

grapefruit is longer lasting than Tagamet because grapefruit destroys the CYP3A4 enzeyme whilst cimetidine (tagamet) is a reversible inhibitor.

There's danger in taking both as the unpredictability increases, you're also going to be loading up your body with lots of benzos and their effect will stick around much longer than you realise, if you take a decent dose of diazapam with them both and then take another decent dose 2 days later you very well may find that there's more residual diazepam left in your system than you realise.....

what might be a better idea is to just redose the tagamet rather than double up on 2 different things, though honestly it might be worth considering what's driving you to want to extend things so long, I know you're already aware of dependency signs
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I see...yeah I'll just stick with Tagamet as I've read grapefruit juice could have the opposite effect.
 
oh just an afterthought for anyone else reading this, if you're on other meds be careful to check how grapefruit and cimetidine interact, I can't take grapefruit with a few of my prescription meds (not rec stuff), you don't want to be killing yourself over something so avoidable
 
Pirrracetamol said:
I might take both
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just be careful 🕊️ , wear 2 condoms and have your mum ready on speed dial.

jokes aside, if you are going to do it anyway don't just jump straight in at the deep end, there's no rush, you can build up to it e.g. reduce benzo dose, start with 1 on its own, try the other on its own, then add the other in at a smaller dose etc. Don't assume the single dose of each on their own will work the same when combined.

and be wary of other CNS stuff while you're experimenting
 
placebonaut said:
just be careful 🕊️ , wear 2 condoms and have your mum ready on speed dial.

jokes aside, if you are going to do it anyway don't just jump straight in at the deep end, there's no rush, you can build up to it e.g. reduce benzo dose, start with 1 on its own, try the other on its own, then add the other in at a smaller dose etc. Don't assume the single dose of each on their own will work the same when combined.

and be wary of other CNS stuff while you're experimenting
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Watch it mate with that there's not even a Landline in my mum's house. Don't know why lol

True will do. See this forum is good telling people how to take drugs safely. I should get a free t shirt for the free plug.....and I know where ya going with that.
 
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