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Thumbprinting LSD

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^^^ Good point! I'm sure you could figure out pretty easily how much solution your paper absorbs by dipping however many sheets into plain ethanol and measuring the before and after volume, a bit of maths and you could easily figure out how much of what to use. But yeah giving actual numbers isnt a good idea. Say how to do it and people that want to can figure it out for themselves, don't know if that'll encourage or discourage people from laying RC's, at least they'll know the dose if they do but even that doesn't help if theyre selling it to random people as lsd.

I've always wondered though how you dry it, neither hanging it up or putting it on a flat surface really sound like they'll work very well.
 
Edges of sheets typically are stronger than the middle. While this doesn't make much of a difference with lsd, you are right when you say it could be bad for doxx.
 
I have a question about the persisting effects reported by those who have taken a print or other ridiculously large dose of lsd. are the persisting effects caused by damage / disruption of neurotransmitters and neurons, or is it because once you go that far out and experience such an intense trip you don't come back to your previous reality because of what you learned/experienced during the trip?

correct me if i'm wrong, but arent the effects of lsd caused by the fact the lsd mimics neurotransmitters and flows with them throughout the body, "opening the person up" to experiencing more than their neurons would be sensing if not on the drug. if so, what causes people to be "permafried" if the drugs effects end once it is no longer coursing through the body's neurons?

I've tried to do as much research as i can about how and why psychedelics do what they do. If anyone has any corrections to what i've said or additional info, please share! paz y amor
 
It isn't damage. With normal doses of LSD, the psychedelic state blends a tiny bit with the sober state after you come down. You don't really notice it until it builds up after many trips. With a huge dose, the psychedelic state blends a lot with the sober stae.
 
Well im not a member of the shroomery and impatient too! So would a kind soul give me a snippet of the report the chemistrys interesting but the main meals the experience! :D
 
I deleted the above post because I don’t want people to think they are instructions on how to lay sheets as some people have mentioned that people might read it that way.

That is a popular thread in a lot of the other forum but I agree it is not the proper instructions on how to do something like that I think the intentions of the person that wrote that post was to give the basic idea and tell a story about LSD I don’t think they were ever intended to be instructions, but I have removed it so someone won't think they are.

I do agree that people putting DO* substances on sheets is a big problem and a very dangerous one. But I don’t think hiding info like these poplar threads is going to help that problem. Someone with a few dollars can go to the art store get paper go get some alcohol and figure out how to saturate the paper it is not rocket science and the less info they have the more sloppy and inconstant it will turn out.

I do think the subject of the “Family’ and the distribution of LSD is an interesting one and it is a huge peace of LSD history.
The “Family’ distributed more LSD by far they anyone in the history of the world. I think it was an amazing phenomena that in a week or 2 that a million or more doses of LSD could be spread a crossed the country and be available to the masses.
 
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Ness said:
It isn't damage. With normal doses of LSD, the psychedelic state blends a tiny bit with the sober state after you come down. You don't really notice it until it builds up after many trips. With a huge dose, the psychedelic state blends a lot with the sober stae.

it blends? what is that supposed to mean? and how is it not damage? i'm asking what causes it, why the effects linger. is it caused by lingering lsd in neurons, or lsd possibly bonding with other neurotransmitters or something? saying the psychedelic state "blends" with the sober state means nothing.
 
IMO, it's state-dependent learning. Tripping makes a big impact on the way you perceive the world and your brain doesn't forget that altered perception. With huge doses your perception is so radically altered, that your brain "remembers" that altered perception more than with more sane doses. Just because something is different doesn't mean it's caused by damage or is in some way bad.
 
State-dependent learning. How do you learn something Ness? Does your brain magically store information independent of chemicals? No. Do you mean some sort of chemically induced plasticity in which the tonic levels of serotonin are raised? Give an explanation based in reality. The brain is a biological organ. If a drug causes a change it causes a change based on something physical. Your thoughts are subjective manifestations of physical processes.

Peace,
PL
 
I don't know how the brain stores information, but I do know that long after all the LSD is out of your system, experiencing something that you experienced while on LSD can cause you to return to the LSD state. IMO, the merging of the psychedelic state and the sober state is a combination of certain neurological pathways being "rewired" (not damaged) and state-dependent learning. Personally, I welcome this. I see it as a good thing. But that's just me.
 
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I do think the subject of the “Family’ and the distribution of LSD is an interesting one and it is a huge peace of LSD history.
The “Family’ distributed more LSD by far they anyone in the history of the world. I think it was an amazing phenomena that in a week or 2 that a million or more doses of LSD could be spread a crossed the country and be available to the masses.

I'm not sure who you mean when you say the "Family".

I remember what I thought of as "family". People that glamorize the distribution of drugs on the tour are probably not part of my "family", but I would not be surprised if they were part of the elements that really fucked up the scene on the tours.

I still do a dozen or so shows every year depending on how much time life will give me. The scene is very small now, and there are still a few who come for the wrong reasons, but thankfully a lot of those people don't show up at all anymore.
 
Their comes a point in any large dose of lsd where ones' reality is so altered and demented from daily routine its spooky and the mind more less goes into shock. Its when you are nothing yet everything and you can see yourself from third person and everything in your pureferal vision is another dimension, thier be like a rainbow pulsating giant flaming floating chakara eye and its like a "hyperbolic time chamber" to " Dragon Ball Z. (Vegeta ftw) This is a good thread
 
^Heh...you know you're tripping balls when you know that there is such a thing as "sobriety" but you can't for the life of you remember what it's like.
 
Ness said:
^Heh...you know you're tripping balls when you know that there is such a thing as "sobriety" but you can't for the life of you remember what it's like.

You're tripping balls when you don't know there's such a thing as sobriety. This thought sound familiar:

"This is completely natural. This how I always am. Everything is pure beauty. I am living how I know is right. This is who I truly am."

That might be tripping balls but it's just a different state of euphoric sobriety. You're coming down when you remember about sobriety, but can't feel it.

Peace,
PL
 
one day i decided to busted my ass for a few hours to throw some shit together and make it work. So i end up achieving my goal which was just to be tripping face, anyway i maybe took too much and i was in the dimension that i longed for all that day within an hour.. (never a "good" sign) I must have sat ar that spot on the ever so reflective & smooth blue/gray floor for aeons. Isolated from the reality and people of which i love, I thought to myself "here i am, mission accomplished, but why am i not content?" It took some deep introspection & guidance from a few variations of my higher self to understand why, i had to spend days' on end in that lesser-eternity to truly understand what i failed to perceive with my other 5(maybe 6) senses . From then on i acknowledged that LSD is not something one can take just to feel "nothing", (numbing out from everyday life) the trip will back fire and enable them to feel the utter essence of "nothing."

its an odd thing really, all your posts have been great, good job on everyones part.
 
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one day i busted my ass for a few hours to through some shit together and make it work. So i end up achieving my goal which was just to be tripping face, anyway i maybe took too much and i was in the dimension that i longed for all that day within an hour.. (never a "good" sign) I must have sat on that spot of that ever so reflective & smooth blue/gray floor for aeons. Isolated from the reality and people of which i love, I thought to myself "here i am, mission accomplished, but why am i not content?" It took some deep introspection & guidance from a few variations of my higher self to understand why, i had to spend days' on end in that lesser-eternity to truly understand what i failed to perceive with my other 5(maybe 6) senses . From then on i acknowledged that LSD is not something one can take just to feel nothing, the trip will back fire and enable them to feel the utter essence of "nothing."

its an odd thing really, all your posts have been great, good job on everyones part.

Did you ever figure out why you weren't content, or what you were longing for? I ask because I feel this way quite a bit.
 
Personally I think thumbprinting is irresponsible and also wasteful of LSD. If you know somebody who is into high dose LSD experiences, they'll confirm that nothing changes, except the duration & side effects, once you get [past about 1.5mg. Thumbprinting has all the hallmarks of testosterone fuelled stupidity IMO
 
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