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Thoughts on the "I Drive Better High" principle

Kilgore said:
The law also says it's illegal to posses, buy, make, sell drugs but hey....
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i never claimed the law was an absolute moral authority. my point is that if youre going to say its all based on opinion, then i could say, well in my opinion there is nothin wwrong with driving piss drunk while on 4 bars of xanax.
 
Marijuana smokers have been shown to have 10% fewer accidents than the general population.

Driving under the influence of marijuana cannot be used as grounds for getting a DUI in the State of Georgia since 1999.
 
I drive high all the time, never had an accident.

The last time I drove drunk I passed out at the wheel, cashed my car over a curb into someone's lawn, smashed my face into the windshield, and broke my nose, tried to fight with the police, and went to prison for 3 days.

I don't drive drunk anymore.
 
burn out said:
i never claimed the law was an absolute moral authority. my point is that if youre going to say its all based on opinion, then i could say, well in my opinion there is nothin wwrong with driving piss drunk while on 4 bars of xanax.
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we're not talking about driving while drunk.
 
Well the opinion that it is not very dangerous to drive high is much more common than the opinion that it not very dangerous to drive piss drunk while on 4 bars of Xanax.

Anyone with experience driving high will tell you that it is nothing like driving drunk.

It is apples and oranges.
 
my point seems to have gone over your heads, my point has to do with line drawing. i know that driving high is in no way comparable to driving while extremely drunk and on large amounts of xanax. what im saying is, if its ok to drive while somewhat impaired, where do you draw the line? when does it become not ok? the easiest and best place to draw the line is to say "well i probably shouldn't drive when high on drugs, even if its a drug that doesn't produce a huge impairment in driving ability".

actually scratch thart (sorry im on opiates right now and not thinking 100% clearly) my point was that if morals are arbitrary, then who is to say its wrong to drive while ridiculously intoxicated? where do you draw the line?
 
That is a good question.

For me smoking while high is not that big a deal, I wouldn't take someone's keys if they tried to drive after smoking.

If they tried to drive while drunk, or high on Xanax or shrooms, or Ketamine etc I would.

To me, driving high is less dangerous than driving without having sleep for 24 hours.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
I hear so many people say that they drive better drunk, or high.

In my honest opinion, what completely oblivious and irresponsible people. I think it is disgusting. People who think they drive better under the influence of any drug are just idiots. I don't mean to flame, but it is so irresponsible and foolish I can't find a better term to fit it in one word.

You may think you drive better, but when something quick comes out, like a child running into the street, or someone who slams the breaks in front of you, your inebriation will ruin you.

It goes for all drugs, but I am not talking about maintenance level of drugs, ie methadone to avoid withdrawal, adderall for ADHD. I'm talking about taking drugs to get high, or taking drugs that say don't drive when you take them (such as prescribed oxycodone or benzos).

What do you guys think of those who say shit like this? What do you say in reply?
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Well, in my honest opinion you're just ignorant bigot. So fuck you mister, I say. Can you even begin to comprehend the possibility that some of your fellow humans might have other reasons to be high than to just escape the boredom of sobriety? Perhaps some of us simply have reached such understanding of the crucible of our material vessel that we can alter it's ebb and flow with dope and blow, thus becoming superior in performance while we're riding the effects of harmonious high?

For statistics, I have been in something like nine minor car accidents during my life. Every single time I was the guilty, and every single time I was sober. In contrast, I have driven thousands and thousands of kilometers while under the effects of one drug or another, and have never even been close to a situation where accidents could have happened.

So, in all honesty, fuck you and your meaningless little rant. He who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
 
burn out said:
my point seems to have gone over your heads, my point has to do with line drawing. i know that driving high is in no way comparable to driving while extremely drunk and on large amounts of xanax. what im saying is, if its ok to drive while somewhat impaired, where do you draw the line? when does it become not ok? the easiest and best place to draw the line is to say "well i probably shouldn't drive when high on drugs, even if its a drug that doesn't produce a huge impairment in driving ability".

actually scratch thart (sorry im on opiates right now and not thinking 100% clearly) my point was that if morals are arbitrary, then who is to say its wrong to drive while ridiculously intoxicated? where do you draw the line?
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You draw the line between the kind of drug a person is taking and the person's experience and driving record. For example: Military pilots take drugs all the time before flights so yea.... It all depends on the drug.
 
burn out said:
my point seems to have gone over your heads, my point has to do with line drawing. i know that driving high is in no way comparable to driving while extremely drunk and on large amounts of xanax. what im saying is, if its ok to drive while somewhat impaired, where do you draw the line? when does it become not ok? the easiest and best place to draw the line is to say "well i probably shouldn't drive when high on drugs, even if its a drug that doesn't produce a huge impairment in driving ability".

actually scratch thart (sorry im on opiates right now and not thinking 100% clearly) my point was that if morals are arbitrary, then who is to say its wrong to drive while ridiculously intoxicated? where do you draw the line?
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Morals unite a particular group of people under common values so that they can accomplish common goals, one of which is usually living with a relative (perceived at least) measure of safety.

like I said before: draw that line and don't use it as another excuse to reinforce prohibitionist agenda. If we are concerned about the safety of our roads, let's pass laws regarding angry women or sleep-deprived workers before we worry about stoners or even calm, capable motorists who might also be a bit tipsy. These kind of things seem more geared towards demonizing drugs (again) than they are about keeping people safe.
 
There is no difference between my driving skills while sober and while high on marijuana. Weed just doesn't fuck me up like that. I have perfected driving while rolling, lol....I just get lost easier =P I can drive okay when I'm tipsy, never attempted it when I'm all-out drunk.
 
Sunday, my best friend Laura died in a car accident because she was drunk. I just can't realize it and I think all day long about how many times I have drived drunk. Man I'm scared. It makes no sense.
 
i love driving while rolling ...listening to some good ass trance is the best while cruising around town to nice view places ...especially when it's snowing ...fuck ...it hasn't snowed much lately ....give me more snow God ....
 
I was stoned pretty much every day my dad took me out driving. Something about state-dependant learning comes to mind. I can drive sober as well, but being stoned is no real source of anxiety for me while driving.
 
Yes, I've driven high before, and it was stupid.

Since I know it was stupid, it reduces the number of times I get on the road high in the future (if at all).

You can say you'd drive more careful high and et cetera, but the point remains it's still not a great thing to do. Sure, be more cautious and drive slow. But it's still not something that is okay.

Whatever.
 
Also don't drive when you are tired, especially after working a double shift.

Very risky, not okay.

Call a friend who is well rested, and have that person drive you home.

You shouldn't drive after large amounts of caffeine consumption either, thoughts racing through your mind, and jittery physical reactions, are a distraction from the road way.

Also, don't drive less than an hour after waking up in the morning, still groggy, and wiping the sleep crust out of your eyes while driving could cause an accident.

Don't drive with pets in the car, they could distract you and cause an accident.

Don't drive while eating, or talking on a cell phone.
 
^also many accidents occur when the driver is in an emotional state. emotional driving should be regulated :p
 
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